📍 Meet-Up Sedona, AZ meet-up - September 12 - 13, 2025

[speeddev]

Thanks for the detailed work on this, Michael. We're in for going with either the technical or main base route, depending on what the group decides. Of course, I'm now limited on how technical I can get with the big caboose I've got now. Will be leaving Texas on Wed with the plan to be in Sedona for the group dinner on Thu. We also have rooms reserved but will likely pivot to truck camping pending finding spots/people to join.

 

[Optimus🤖]

Can you add:

"I want to ride in @DTX2023Tremor's truck and be on the radio"?

Thank you!

 

[Godzilla/Tremornator]

Can you add:

"I want to ride in @DTX2023Tremor's truck and be on the radio"?

Thank you!

as long as it's clear when you're spotting preferred line to follow versus dusting off your butt

 

[AZsurveyor]

Reading the intinerary got me super stoked and ansy - is it September yet?!

If anyone has specific requests or needs additional information, please feel free to share them here. I’m always in the area and happy to help.

One detail I forgot to mention to @DTX2023Tremor is that September marks the end of our monsoon season (characterized by summer dust storms and heavy rainfall). This particular region gets hammered with sudden rainfall and thunderstorms (over short periods, often in the afternoons or evenings hours) during the months of July-September. These are typically quick cells that form resulting in heavy rainfall over a very small area leading to the possibility of local flash floodings. The only concern to that is the beautiful landscape, vibrant rainbows, and glowing red rocks to enhance our off-road adventures and the opportunity to capture those truly unique photo moments for the TOTM (I propose October to be Sedona only TOTM).

Most of the terrain is hilly and rocky so mud is limited to ruts and surface clay so nothing extreme as far as swamp lands or mud pits of any sort.

The Red Rock Pass can be purchased here:

 

[Toxophilite]

@DTX2023Tremor - Great job laying out the details for this trip, really looking forward to it.

Sign me up for all technical options for both Friday and Saturday.

 

[AZsurveyor]

@DTX2023Tremor - Great job laying out the details for this trip, really looking forward to it.

Sign me up for all technical options for both Friday and Saturday.

Mustard up the courage!

Unleash that beast!

 

[Toxophilite]

Mustard up the courage!

Unleash that beast!

Rocks and difficult trails do not bother me, I don't really care if I smack my shock mounts, skid plates, differentials etc. on a few rocks. But, there is no need to drag a tree branch across the side of your truck. My last truck (F150) was a poster child for Arizona pinstriping, just trying to prolong that if possible on the new rig, the mini chainsaw will be riding shotgun.

 

[AZsurveyor]

Rocks and difficult trails do not bother me, I don't really care if I smack my shock mounts, skid plates, differentials etc. on a few rocks. But, there is no need to drag a tree branch across the side of your truck. My last truck (F150) was a poster child for Arizona pinstriping, just trying to prolong that if possible on the new rig, the mini chainsaw will be riding shotgun.

This reminded me of the time we showed up to a 5-acre parcel in the northern upscale part of Scottsdale. If you're familiar with the Phoenix greater area, you know where I'm talking about.

Naturally, once people see us set up our equipment and break out our surveying gear, they flock over to us to find out just how much land we're stealing, what impacts we're doing to the land, airports and sewer treament plants we're building or how much disturbance we're going to create - because of course, that's what people who measure land do.

Sure enough, out comes the neighbor, who's residence was about 660+ feet away, marching over to us to find out in great level of detail, as if he were part of the approval committee, to find out just what all was going on in his "neck of the woods."

At this point, I already know where this is going so I just play stupid for the most part, and I can't spill any real details even if I wanted to.

Before heading back to his sprawling 8,500-square-foot estate, he made sure to tell me he would be speaking with both the property owner and the city development department to ensure we minimized any damage to the natural desert landscape. He emphasized that he had spent over 25 years preserving the area in its pristine state. According to him, allowing someone to move in and start building would disrupt the natural washes and creeks crossing the parcel.

He even assured me he knew exactly how many trees were in the area, because apparently, tree is what makes the land “prestigous.” Meanwhile, the irony of his estate’s footprint never once crossed his mind. It’s fine for him to carve out his kingdom, but heaven forbid anyone else tries to develop their own little piece of heaven.

Moral of the story: Sometimes humans move into a habitat, complain about its natural quirks, and then act like very landscape they disrupted owes them an apology. Meanwhile nature just has to deal with us being, well humans.

 

[DTX2023Tremor]

Rocks and difficult trails do not bother me, I don't really care if I smack my shock mounts, skid plates, differentials etc. on a few rocks. But, there is no need to drag a tree branch across the side of your truck. My last truck (F150) was a poster child for Arizona pinstriping, just trying to prolong that if possible on the new rig, the mini chainsaw will be riding shotgun.

Check out @Optimus🤖 mini mods for additional ideas on how to protect your ride.

 

[DTX2023Tremor]

This reminded me of the time we showed up to a 5-acre parcel in the northern upscale part of Scottsdale. If you're familiar with the Phoenix greater area, you know where I'm talking about.

Naturally, once people see us set up our equipment and break out our surveying gear, they flock over to us to find out just how much land we're stealing, what impacts we're doing to the land, airports and sewer treament plants we're building or how much disturbance we're going to create - because of course, that's what people who measure land do.

Sure enough, out comes the neighbor, who's residence was about 660+ feet away, marching over to us to find out in great level of detail, as if he were part of the approval committee, to find out just what all was going on in his "neck of the woods."

At this point, I already know where this is going so I just play stupid for the most part, and I can't spill any real details even if I wanted to.

Before heading back to his sprawling 8,500-square-foot estate, he made sure to tell me he would be speaking with both the property owner and the city development department to ensure we minimized any damage to the natural desert landscape. He emphasized that he had spent over 25 years preserving the area in its pristine state. According to him, allowing someone to move in and start building would disrupt the natural washes and creeks crossing the parcel.

He even assured me he knew exactly how many trees were in the area, because apparently, tree is what makes the land “prestigous.” Meanwhile, the irony of his estate’s footprint never once crossed his mind. It’s fine for him to carve out his kingdom, but heaven forbid anyone else tries to develop their own little piece of heaven.

Moral of the story: Sometimes humans move into a habitat, complain about its natural quirks, and then act like very landscape they disrupted owes them an apology. Meanwhile nature just has to deal with us being, well humans.

I'm still pretty upset about how you messed up the land around my lot. It was an 850 sq trailer, but thank you for calling it an estate. Also, you moved the tires I had placed for flood control and never put them back right. They were stacked that way for a reason.

Before your crew came and messed everything up....

Now what everything looks like now that you've done irreparable damage:

 

[AZsurveyor]

I'm still pretty upset about how you messed up the land around my lot. It was an 850 sq trailer, but thank you for calling it an estate. Also, you moved the tires I had placed for flood control and never put them back right. They were stacked that way for a reason.

Before your crew came and messed everything up....
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Now what everything looks like now that you've done irreparable damage:
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Oh and by the way, where put your marker showing the property corner, well it's wrong. I have an app on my phone that tells me exactly where that pin should be and it's telling me its "thata away", 35 feet from yours (gps phone app position is accurate to around 10 meters when stationary). My property is completely flat and a perfect square.

 

[Optimus🤖]

Check out @Optimus🤖 mini mods for additional ideas on how to protect your ride.

the mini chainsaw will be riding shotgun.

Yes, send me a DM on how to use the mini chainsaw. It takes three days to cut a twig but guess what? It works! The best part: you keep it your on keychain!

 

[jonkelley]

This reminded me of the time we showed up to a 5-acre parcel in the northern upscale part of Scottsdale. If you're familiar with the Phoenix greater area, you know where I'm talking about.

Naturally, once people see us set up our equipment and break out our surveying gear, they flock over to us to find out just how much land we're stealing, what impacts we're doing to the land, airports and sewer treament plants we're building or how much disturbance we're going to create - because of course, that's what people who measure land do.

Sure enough, out comes the neighbor, who's residence was about 660+ feet away, marching over to us to find out in great level of detail, as if he were part of the approval committee, to find out just what all was going on in his "neck of the woods."

At this point, I already know where this is going so I just play stupid for the most part, and I can't spill any real details even if I wanted to.

Before heading back to his sprawling 8,500-square-foot estate, he made sure to tell me he would be speaking with both the property owner and the city development department to ensure we minimized any damage to the natural desert landscape. He emphasized that he had spent over 25 years preserving the area in its pristine state. According to him, allowing someone to move in and start building would disrupt the natural washes and creeks crossing the parcel.

He even assured me he knew exactly how many trees were in the area, because apparently, tree is what makes the land “prestigous.” Meanwhile, the irony of his estate’s footprint never once crossed his mind. It’s fine for him to carve out his kingdom, but heaven forbid anyone else tries to develop their own little piece of heaven.

Moral of the story: Sometimes humans move into a habitat, complain about its natural quirks, and then act like very landscape they disrupted owes them an apology. Meanwhile nature just has to deal with us being, well humans.

Well said and so true!

 

[TellurideTremor]

Sedona Off-Road Adventure - Trail Options & Itinerary

Hey everyone! Excited for our Sedona weekend September 12 and 13! After researching trails suitable for our Tremor builds and consulting with @AZsurveyor , We've put together options that balance scenic desert exploration with optional technical challenges for those wanting to test their rigs.

Logistics & Planning

• Meeting Point: TBD - central Sedona location for 9:30a.m. departure both days
• Required: Red Rock Pass ($15 for 7-day covers both days)
• Group Coordination: Technical add-on groups will split off and regroup at designated points for lunch and continued adventures

Decision Time - Please respond with:

1. Friday preference: Base route only OR Base route + technical add-on (specify which)
2. Saturday preference: Base route only OR Technical alternative (Diamondback Gulch)
3. Any questions or special requests

The base routes offer incredible scenery, historic sites, and perfect terrain for our trucks without any damage risk. Technical add-ons provide opportunities to really flex your builds and tackle some moderate-to-difficult obstacles for those interested.

Looking forward to an epic weekend exploring Arizona's red rock country!

Questions? Hit me up anytime. Can't wait to see these Tremors in their element!

-Michael

FRIDAY - WEST SEDONA DESERT EXPLORER
Main Route:

• 10:00am-12:30pm: Ranch Loop OHV Trail (FR-761B and FR-525A) - 8-mile loop with beautiful views of Sedona on the north end, ascend up to rim of red rock terrain
• 12:30pm-1:30pm: Lunch Break- scenic pullout on Ranch Loop with red rocks backdrop
• 1:30pm-4:00pm: Outlaw Trail starting at Honanki Heritage Site, sweeping views across desert and red rock hills of Sedona

Technical Add-On Options:
SKELETON BONES TRAIL (Addition to the main route)

• Connection Point: Bill Gray Road - Ranch Loop can be accessed via Bill Gray Road (FR-761), and Skeleton Bones starts 6.3 miles north on Bill Gray Road
• Type: Addition to main route (groups split and regroup)
• Timing: +1.5-2 hours additional
• Distance: 5.8-mile point-to-point trail
• Schedule: Technical group does Skeleton Bones 11:00am-12:30pm while main group continues Ranch Loop
• Regroup Point: Both trails end back at Bill Gray Road - meet at Bill Gray Road/FR-525 intersection at 12:30pm for lunch

RED ROCK POWERLINE TRAIL (Alternative addition)

• Connection Point: From Highway 89A, take Bill Gray Road at Immaculate Conception Catholic Church. Drive approximately 9.3 miles to trail start
• Type: Addition to main route
• Timing: +2-2.5 hours additional
• Distance: 6.4-mile point-to-point trail from Bill Gray Road along power lines
• Schedule: Technical group takes this instead of/after Skeleton Bones
• Regroup Point: Trail connects to Bill Grey and Buckboard trail - meet at FR-525 intersection

SATURDAY - SCHNEBLY HILL EASTERN APPROACH
Main Route:

• 10:00am-12:30pm: Schnebly Hill Road - APPROACH FROM EAST (Flagstaff side) for spectacular viewpoint overlooking Oak Creek Canyon, descending into Sedona
• 12:30pm-1:30pm: At mile 4.0, get out and stretch your legs at Merry-Go-Round rock formation with scenic views
• 1:30pm-4:00pm: Volcanic Rim Loop - very rough 3-mile loop requiring use of 4L, scenery even better than Schnebly Hill

Technical Add-On Options:

DIAMONDBACK GULCH (Alternative detour)

• Connection Point: At end of Diamondback Gulch: Turn left on FR 525 to Ranch Loop/downtown Sedona OR Turn right toward Outlaw Trail and Honanki Heritage Site
• Type: Alternative morning route (detour from main group)
• Timing: 2.5 hours (replaces morning Schnebly Hill portion)
• Distance: 6.7-mile three-quarter loop trail
• Schedule:
  • Technical Group: 10:00am-12:30pm Diamondback Gulch
  • Main Group: 10:00am-12:30pm Schnebly Hill Road
• Regroup Point: Both groups meet at FR-525/Outlaw Trail area at 12:30pm for lunch, then both continue together on Volcanic Rim Loop

SKELETON BONES (Saturday Alternative)

• Type: Morning replacement for those wanting a more extreme challenge
• Timing: 2 hours (10:00am-12:00pm)
• Connection: Access via Bill Gray Road at Immaculate Conception Catholic Church
• Regroup Point: Bill Gray Road intersection - technical group drives to meet main group at Schnebly Hill area for lunch

Key Connection Details:

• Bill Gray Road Hub: Primary access point for Ranch Loop, Skeleton Bones, and Red Rock Powerline - all connect here
• FR-525 Corridor: Major connection point where Outlaw Trail, Diamondback Gulch, and Ranch Loop all intersect
• Timing Buffer: All add-ons include 15-30 minute drive time to connection points
• Meeting Points: All regrouping locations have good cell service and multiple parking areas

I love this planning! The options provide everyone an opportunity to explore different routes and experiences

Start as a group (love that) and then options depending on what each individual wants to do and then meet back up.

This
Is
AWESOME.

MIKE FOR THE WIN!

 

[Phillbo]

This reminded me of the time we showed up to a 5-acre parcel in the northern upscale part of Scottsdale. If you're familiar with the Phoenix greater area, you know where I'm talking about.

Naturally, once people see us set up our equipment and break out our surveying gear, they flock over to us to find out just how much land we're stealing, what impacts we're doing to the land, airports and sewer treament plants we're building or how much disturbance we're going to create - because of course, that's what people who measure land do.

Sure enough, out comes the neighbor, who's residence was about 660+ feet away, marching over to us to find out in great level of detail, as if he were part of the approval committee, to find out just what all was going on in his "neck of the woods."

At this point, I already know where this is going so I just play stupid for the most part, and I can't spill any real details even if I wanted to.

Before heading back to his sprawling 8,500-square-foot estate, he made sure to tell me he would be speaking with both the property owner and the city development department to ensure we minimized any damage to the natural desert landscape. He emphasized that he had spent over 25 years preserving the area in its pristine state. According to him, allowing someone to move in and start building would disrupt the natural washes and creeks crossing the parcel.

He even assured me he knew exactly how many trees were in the area, because apparently, tree is what makes the land “prestigous.” Meanwhile, the irony of his estate’s footprint never once crossed his mind. It’s fine for him to carve out his kingdom, but heaven forbid anyone else tries to develop their own little piece of heaven.

Moral of the story: Sometimes humans move into a habitat, complain about its natural quirks, and then act like very landscape they disrupted owes them an apology. Meanwhile nature just has to deal with us being, well humans.

Sounds like Rio Verde....



I have more concerns about the Texans you are attracting to our state

 

[Godzilla/Tremornator]

Sounds like Rio Verde....



I have more concerns about the Texans you are attracting to our state

the downside of more texans in Arizona????????

 

[Lunch Box]

Sounds like Rio Verde....



I have more concerns about the Texans you are attracting to our state

One of them is a SoCal, Texas transplant, so no worries!!

 

[Phillbo]

One of them is a SoCal, Texas transplant, so no worries!!

 

[DTX2023Tremor]

One of them is a SoCal, Texas transplant, so no worries!!

Hey! I resemble that remark.

 

[AZsurveyor]

Sounds like Rio Verde....



I have more concerns about the Texans you are attracting to our state

Is it Texans now? I thought it was Californians.

I don't pay attention anymore but what I do know is that it's always our fault.

Ask the Surveyor.