📍 Meet-Up Sedona, AZ meet-up - September 12 - 13, 2025

Added to Calendar: 09-13-25

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For day 1, the Ranch Loop looks pretty short and is rated very easy. Assuming a 10 mph average speed on an easy tail, I'd guess Ranch Loop would take about an hour to complete the 8 miles.
I suggest that each person decides on one of two add-ons:
1. Skelton Bones Trail + Red Rock Powerline Trail (highlighed in blue/green below)
2. Outlaw OHV trail (highlighted in yellow).

onX Ranch Loop Road
onX Skeleton Bones Trail
onX Red Rock Powerline Trail
onX Outlaw Trail

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@DTX2023Tremor - The Volcanic rim loop is Forest Service road 801. The 801 road is not the full loop, we will need to turn north near the red X onto an unnamed road to complete the loop back to Schnebly Hills road.
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I will be driving right by this area in about 3 weeks. If I have time, I will try to run this trail and report back. Let me know if there are any others you would like recon on :D
 
I will be driving right by this area in about 3 weeks. If I have time, I will try to run this trail and report back. Let me know if there are any others you would like recon on :D
Thanks! I was having a hell of a time trying to get the route details for the Volcanic Rim Loop and the Rock Garden Loop looked like it could have been the same thing. If you have a chance to check this out, would be great to get your thoughts if we should just do the Rock Garden Loop or how to map the Volcanic Rim Loop on onX so we can take that route.

Also, sounds like you're really familiar with the area. There's a couple of people who might stay longer and could use some recommendations on trails they can take Sunday and beyond that are appropriate for our trucks.
 
I've been trying to sort out details on each route for each day and for day 2, it looks like the original details I provided in the itinerary were a bit off. We can continue to plan on starting our tour from the east, driving up I-17 and exiting FR 226 / Schnebly Hill Road. From there, we can take Schnebly Hill Road back to Sedona (highlighted in yellow). Along the way (highlighted in orange) is the Volcanic Rim Loop (aka Rock Garden Loop on onX Offroad) which starts/ends on Schnebly Hill Road.

I am struggling to find great descriptions on this loop and can't find any videos of the drive. It is described as more difficult than Schnebly Hill Road, but a 4/10 technical rating on onX doesn't raise any red flags for me (but I'll happily defer to those who have more knowledge on these things than I). For those who don't want to do the loop, I suggest they continue on to Merry Go Round Rock and we'd make that our lunch stop, and they can have an extended lunch while the rest of the group catches up to them.

Once everyone is fed and ready to go, we'll continue back on Schnebly Hills Road to Sedona (and maybe directly to our dinner location depending on timing).

onX Schnebly Hill Road
onX Rock Garden Loop

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I noticed it but didn't mention it, assuming that's how you intended the programming to be.

My main goal is to provide suggestions rather than impose my own way.

It's not too far in reality, but navigating through town during the day can be quite tough, especially at the roundabout. Last month, they opened an alternate route (Forest Road, highlighted in purple) that lets you bypass the roundabout (which gets extremely congested), but I saw last weekend that the alternate route is just as bad since the shortcut is located right at the roundabout. 😂

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I've never driven the Volcanic Loop, but I read that it can get incredibly boring because you're constantly jostled by the rocky surface. It's not challenging, just uncomfortably bumpy. I'm not a fan of those kinds of trails, so I would skip this one.

For day 1, the Ranch Loop looks pretty short and is rated very easy. Assuming a 10 mph average speed on an easy tail, I'd guess Ranch Loop would take about an hour to complete the 8 miles.
I suggest that each person decides on one of two add-ons:
1. Skelton Bones Trail + Red Rock Powerline Trail (highlighed in blue/green below)
2. Outlaw OHV trail (highlighted in yellow).

onX Ranch Loop Road
onX Skeleton Bones Trail
onX Red Rock Powerline Trail
onX Outlaw Trail

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If that - it's just driving on a wide dirt road.
 
I noticed it but didn't mention it, assuming that's how you intended the programming to be.

My main goal is to provide suggestions rather than impose my own way.

It's not too far in reality, but navigating through town during the day can be quite tough, especially at the roundabout. Last month, they opened an alternate route (Forest Road, highlighted in purple) that lets you bypass the roundabout (which gets extremely congested), but I saw last weekend that the alternate route is just as bad since the shortcut is located right at the roundabout. 😂

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I've never driven the Volcanic Loop, but I read that it can get incredibly boring because you're constantly jostled by the rocky surface. It's not challenging, just uncomfortably bumpy. I'm not a fan of those kinds of trails, so I would skip this one.


If that - it's just driving on a wide dirt road.
I really appreciate your insight and experience on these trails, so all feedback and guidance is taken with gratitude.
 
Hi Everyone... I was looking at route options for Saturday and thought it might be fun to do the route outlined below. Take a look and let me know what you think. T-Six Canyon Loop (highlighted in blue) is a little more technical compared to the rest of the route, so for those who want to skip it, they can head up to Munds Park for an extended lunch break while the rest of the group does the loop and catches up.

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Potential Revised Itinerary for Saturday

  • 8:45 am – Meet at Bar M Road off of I-17 (exit 320 – Munds Park)
    • For those staying at or near the Hilton Grand Vacations Sedona Summit, we’ll look to depart the hotel around 8:15 am
  • 9:00 am – Bar M road to Sheep Springs Road (11 miles)
  • 9:40 am – Sheep Springs Road to Casner Park (11 miles)
  • 10:05 am – Casner Park (brief connector) to Mud Puddle Lane
  • 10:20 am – Mud Puddle Lane to FR 226 (3 miles)
  • 10:45 am – FR 226 to T-Six Canyon Loop (about 1 - 2 miles)
  • 11:05 am – T-Six Canyon Loop (about 5 miles)
  • 11:55 am – FR 226 to I-17 (1 – 2 miles )
  • 12:30 – 1:30 pm – Lunch
  • 1:30 pm – Drive to Schnebly Hill Road
  • 2:00 pm – Schnebly Hill Road (12 miles)
    • Merry-Go-Round Rock (mile 4.0) - Photo opportunity
  • 4:30 pm – Arrive in Sedona – Air-up tires
  • 4:45 pm – Head to dinner (Location TBD)
Description of the various roads/trails in the route:

Bar M Road - This rough forest road has sporadic pull-through primitive campsites scattered throughout, though sites are more densely dispersed closer to the I-17. With no obstacles over 12", this road is clearly unmaintained and could prove challenging after rain or snow. You'll weave between the mixed pine of the Coconino Forest. On the way, stop off at the Observation Tower at the top of Lee Butte.

Sheep Spring Road: Sheep Spring Road is a wide forest road that takes you into the heart of the Coconino National Forest. This road often dances between ponderosa pine groves, and expansive alpine meadows, called parks by the locals. Sheep Springs Road traverses three large parks;Tie, Brolliar, and Long. Along this road you might encounter elk, mule deer, and pronghorns. Don't be surprised if you see hikers in the woods, as this trail crosses the historic Arizona National Scenic Hiking Trail.

Mud Puddle Lane: This trail is Forest Service Road 228 and connects Casper Park and FR 226, which are both Guided Trails. The southern part of this trail is a dirt road with a handful of areas that may hold mud puddles. As you continue North, the mud puddles get bigger and the trail's surface gets more rockier. Be cautious while going through some of the deep mud holes with standing water. There are hidden rocks under the bigger puddle surfaces that could blow a tire if you are going too fast. These bigger mud puddles can cover the entire trail's surface for a good 10 to 15 yards. As you approach Jones Tank, there are deep ruts to watch out for. The area around Jones Tank is another location where deep mud puddles can be present. After a good rain, this area looks like it could be flooded because Jones Tank is right next to the trail on the South side. After passing Jones Tank, the trail becomes much more rocky. The rockiest section is past a Forest Service gate. Please shut the gate behind you. There are large exposed rock gardens after this gate. So, pick your lines wisely to avoid bumps and scrapes to your rig. From there, the trail becomes less rocky and ends to the North at Casper Park Guided Trail.

T-Six Canyon Loop: The beginning of this trail is the start of Forest Road 226C. Right away, the trail starts off rocky and narrow as you climb a small incline. In this area, there are lots of exposed rock outcroppings and loose rocks on the trail. After this section, you will pass over a cattle guard that has a good-sized lip to get on and over the grates. From there, the trail becomes a dirt trail with off-and-on rocky sections. These rocky sections consist of small rock gardens and loose rocks. There are lots of trees that are hanging over this trail so be aware that there may be downed trees blocking the trail in the future. The area right before the loop is prone to mud holes after any good rain. At the loop intersection, you can traverse the remainder of this trail clockwise or counterclockwise. The roughest part of the loop is on the West and Southwest sides. There are larger rock gardens with short and steep grades. Some of these rocks accompanied by a slight grade are more than a 12" obstacle but not up to 18". If you prefer climbing obstacles, go clockwise. If you prefer descending obstacles, go counterclockwise. There are also a few mud-hole-prone areas around this loop.

FR 226: Forest Road 226 runs Northwest to Southeast, opposite the famous "Schnebley Hill". This rocky trail will take you through the mixed pines of the Coconino National Forest through burn scars and past many primitive large pull-through-type campsites. With no obstacles over 12", this dirt road is unmaintained after rain or snow and could prove challenging during the wet season.

Schnebly Hill Road: Schnebly Hill Road is one of Sedona's most iconic and scenic routes, connecting the red rock canyons below to the pine-covered Mogollon Rim above. Best traveled east to west, this trail is known not for technical obstacles, but for its unrelenting rock garden--a bumpy, rough surface that stretches from bottom to rim overlook above. Despite the lack of true obstacles, the continuous loose rock, embedded boulders, and ledges make for a slow and methodical drive. Drivers will be constantly picking their line to avoid tire damage or excess vehicle rattle, especially in stock rigs. It's not difficult--just rough. Along the way, there are several pullouts and side paths that lead to incredible red rock viewpoints, some requiring a short walk for the best perspective. The Schnebly Hill Vista near the top offers a stunning overlook and is the natural endpoint for most travelers. There are campsites along the rim, tucked into the trees - some with primitive fire rings. Remember, if you do have a fire, please check local and county regulations, as this area is prone to large and uncontrollable wildfires. Expect heavy traffic, especially during peak months. The route is a favorite of the Pink Jeep Tours, and their presence adds to the energy but can slow down progress. This is a classic Arizona off-road experience--not hard, but relentlessly bumpy with big payoffs in views.
 
@DTX2023Tremor - Again, thank you for all of the work and coordination you are doing for this trip. This looks like a great itinerary for Saturday and I am in for all technical portions if there is enough interest. If not, happy to stay on the easier trails and just enjoy the experience and company.

Question - should we plan for on trail communication? I know some folks have GMRS radios in their trucks and some do not, I will be bring a handheld walkie-talkie to use since I am in “camp no truck radio”. I believe the GMRS radios will work with regular walkie talkies as long as we stay on certain channels.
 
@DTX2023Tremor - Again, thank you for all of the work and coordination you are doing for this trip. This looks like a great itinerary for Saturday and I am in for all technical portions if there is enough interest. If not, happy to stay on the easier trails and just enjoy the experience and company.

Question - should we plan for on trail communication? I know some folks have GMRS radios in their trucks and some do not, I will be bring a handheld walkie-talkie to use since I am in “camp no truck radio”. I believe the GMRS radios will work with regular walkie talkies as long as we stay on certain channels.
GMRS is the way to go!

Midland has options and produces quality permanent and hand held options

@legmar are you still partnering with them and can share a referral link?
 
@DTX2023Tremor - Again, thank you for all of the work and coordination you are doing for this trip. This looks like a great itinerary for Saturday and I am in for all technical portions if there is enough interest. If not, happy to stay on the easier trails and just enjoy the experience and company.

Question - should we plan for on trail communication? I know some folks have GMRS radios in their trucks and some do not, I will be bring a handheld walkie-talkie to use since I am in “camp no truck radio”. I believe the GMRS radios will work with regular walkie talkies as long as we stay on certain channels.
A few of those attending do have built-in GMRS radios, so that is what I would recommend. I'll bring some handheld units as well and recommend those who have them to also bring theirs in case we need extras.

There will be at least 2 or 3 of us who also have Starlink for cell communication should we need any support that requires a phone call.
 
I was granted permission from @cntyguy to bunk again, so we got an Airbnb on the outskirts of Sedona. He had a lot of explaining to do to his wife but he guaranteed her safety and sanity 🤪.

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I was granted permission from @cntyguy to bunk again, so we got an Airbnb on the outskirts of Sedona. He had a lot of explaining to do to his wife but he guaranteed her safety and sanity 🤪.

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Great- if I see someone swimming running nude in Oak Creek, I will know who it is 😑
 
Ok... so I thought it would be a good idea to try and gather a list for restaurant reservations via PM and that's now gotten a bit unwieldy to track, so taking it back to the main thread. Here's what I've got so far:

Thursday night dinner: Mariposa Latin Inspired Grill
Friday night dinner: Up The Creek
Saturday night dinner: Merkin Vineyards Hilltop Winery & Trattoria

I've reached to each to see if they can accommodate our group for each night and @AZsurveyor and I are working on alternate venues in case these don't work out. We tried to pick locations that are both known for their quality and we hope have something everyone in our group would enjoy. If you're looking at the menu and have concerns, please PM me so we can either see if the restaurant can accommodate your needs or if we need to move to one of the alternate locations.

Based on the responses to the PMs, here's what I have so far in terms of who is attending dinner on each night. I've tried to track adults and children separately (hence why you'll see some people listed as 2+2) as that may be important for the restaurant to know. I believe 4 of the little ones will need high chairs.

Please review the list below and let me know if I have anything incorrect. If you're in the unknown category, would be great to know what your plans are so I may give the restaurants firm headcounts.

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Hey everyone... Up The Creek is able to accommodate our group for Friday night. For groups of our size, offer a private room with a prix fixe dinner. Typically we offer three courses: organic house salad, choice of entree, and dessert. $75 plus plus includes the private room, coffee tea and soft drinks. Alcohol is separate.

What do y'all think? I imagine it will mean we'd need a firm commitment of who is attending and everyone would likely need to pay me (as I'm sure they'll want a credit card for the whole balance). I'll have to check to see if we can get a different price for children and confirmation that kids under a certain age are free.
 
Hey everyone... Up The Creek is able to accommodate our group for Friday night. For groups of our size, offer a private room with a prix fixe dinner. Typically we offer three courses: organic house salad, choice of entree, and dessert. $75 plus plus includes the private room, coffee tea and soft drinks. Alcohol is separate.

What do y'all think? I imagine it will mean we'd need a firm commitment of who is attending and everyone would likely need to pay me (as I'm sure they'll want a credit card for the whole balance). I'll have to check to see if we can get a different price for children and confirmation that kids under a certain age are free.
Sounds good to me, I'm up for the creek!
 
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