FYI 2022 Updated Production Schedule

Well like a lot of you never thought I would see this! Getting closer but still not at the finish line yet!
 

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Crickets!!! 7.5 months and counting
 
Nothing here either ordered 10-2. Platinum trim level removed 5th and bedliner. Don't know is it the allocations from my small dealer or trim level holding up getting scheduled
 
Scheduling again next week….that’s almost funny. Unless they really ramp up there will be a ton of unfulfilled 22 orders that get canceled
 
gearguywb said:
Scheduling again next week….that’s almost funny. Unless they really ramp up there will be a ton of unfulfilled 22 orders that get canceled
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They can't ramp up much more. They are currently running all shifts and have really only stopped for the occasional parts shortage lately. But now they are running up against challenges with getting the trucks delivered. So they keep cranking them out, but they can't ship them to the dealerships fast enough.

-SR-
 
gearguywb said:
Scheduling again next week….that’s almost funny. Unless they really ramp up there will be a ton of unfulfilled 22 orders that get canceled
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Dont say that. I brought that up last week and I was lectured on how wrong I was. I ordered in December and I’m thinking I’m going to be very close to being canceled. I think my best scenario right now is scheduled June for July build august for shipping and pick up September.
 
greatoppressor said:
They can't ramp up much more. They are currently running all shifts and have really only stopped for the occasional parts shortage lately. But now they are running up against challenges with getting the trucks delivered. So they keep cranking them out, but they can't ship them to the dealerships fast enough.

-SR-
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Are they though, running all shifts? Seems like the batch sizes this week went from being in the thousands last week to the hundreds this week. No idea how that would correlate, if at all, to overall throughput. But, when the batch sizes are in the thousands we see lots of activity on the forum here, whether it be in this thread or dedicated build week threads, and this week the activity has been very low. So much so that there are more people from last week's build talking about shipping this week than there are people from this build week talking about being in production or getting built.

Makes me wonder, for sure. Could just be a slowdown in chatter, but seems like the same is true over on BOF.

On the shipping topic, I'm by no means an expert here, but it sure seems like the people with these long rail holds are all in California. Even people just in Nevada don't seem to be having the issue. Makes me wonder if this is related to UP's statement months ago that they were considering halting all Cali operations due to criminal activity and lack of support from the government.

On top of that, I've heard gossip that rail unions are trying to put the squeeze on UP. UP is seeing a spike in demand because retailers are trying to lighten the pain of inflation by cutting shipping costs, rail is the only avenue to do that with, compounded by other shortages, specifically in truckers willing to go into blue areas, and rising fuel costs -- just a huge giant mess.

All that to say -- seems like there are areas where shipping is backed up and areas where it's not. The backed up areas really seem to be focused around California and Canada. I suspect a lot of this really circles around the fact California intentionally caused issues for port traffic - which resulted in many carriers taking their cargo ships to other ports, which may have permanently caused California to lose that port traffic. California has, for many decades, enjoyed the luxury of having that port traffic -- which pulls in lots of land traffic, that land traffic then becomes cheap as companies want to get their drivers there to haul that port traffic out on land. Now, I believe, California is in the negative on traffic meaning it costs more to take a load in than out and they are a heavy consumerist state.

In short, companies don't want to go to California anymore where it used to be that they'd take your load there for almost the cost of fuel alone in years past so they could haul the high paying port loads out.
 
gommer said:
Are they though, running all shifts? Seems like the batch sizes this week went from being in the thousands last week to the hundreds this week. No idea how that would correlate, if at all, to overall throughput. But, when the batch sizes are in the thousands we see lots of activity on the forum here, whether it be in this thread or dedicated build week threads, and this week the activity has been very low. So much so that there are more people from last week's build talking about shipping this week than there are people from this build week talking about being in production or getting built.

Makes me wonder, for sure. Could just be a slowdown in chatter, but seems like the same is true over on BOF.

On the shipping topic, I'm by no means an expert here, but it sure seems like the people with these long rail holds are all in California. Even people just in Nevada don't seem to be having the issue. Makes me wonder if this is related to UP's statement months ago that they were considering halting all Cali operations due to criminal activity and lack of support from the government.

On top of that, I've heard gossip that rail unions are trying to put the squeeze on UP. UP is seeing a spike in demand because retailers are trying to lighten the pain of inflation by cutting shipping costs, rail is the only avenue to do that with, compounded by other shortages, specifically in truckers willing to go into blue areas, and rising fuel costs -- just a huge giant mess.

All that to say -- seems like there are areas where shipping is backed up and areas where it's not. The backed up areas really seem to be focused around California and Canada. I suspect a lot of this really circles around the fact California intentionally caused issues for port traffic - which resulted in many carriers taking their cargo ships to other ports, which may have permanently caused California to lose that port traffic. California has, for many decades, enjoyed the luxury of having that port traffic -- which pulls in lots of land traffic, that land traffic then becomes cheap as companies want to get their drivers there to haul that port traffic out on land. Now, I believe, California is in the negative on traffic meaning it costs more to take a load in than out and they are a heavy consumerist state.

In short, companies don't want to go to California anymore where it used to be that they'd take your load there for almost the cost of fuel alone in years past so they could haul the high paying port loads out.
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Head on over to the Ford Super Duty Production and Scheduling Facebook group. It's moderated by KTP employees (and frequented by other employees as well). They are happy to tell you if they are running that week (people ask them all the time). They let people know when they are shutting down, when they know about part shortages, and some will even offer to look up your in-production order status if you like (one was nice enough to send me a screenshot of my truck's progress in their internal tracking production tracking system). For this upcoming week, the moderator stated that they are off on Monday for Easter and will be back at it on Tuesday, all shifts.

The best info I've gotten over at BOF has been from icecapades, but he's on the dealership side of things and doesn't seem to offer (or have) much production-side information. I'm sure there are plant employees in there, too, but it's been harder to distinguish who they are from everyone else.

As for batch numbers, there have been people who speculated that batch numbers were one-per-day (myself included), but it became clear to me after observing that my order and other orders went through production on the same day and they were in different batch numbers, that the distinction is something other than what day they are being produced. It's more likely that they are Ford's way of grouping similar runs of production together in their system (maybe grouped by engine type, body, certain options, etc). It's not really clear; though, I don't think batch sizes truly reflect actual production rates.

As for shipping, I haven't paid a lot of attention to rail times because my truck will be coming straight from the plant via car carrier. Those orders than are leaving the plant by car carrier, per the folks at the plant, have been piling up. They have the car carriers available, but not the drivers. I spoke with one fella whose dealership is 35 miles from the plant and his completed truck has been waiting for three weeks to be shipped. Similar to the maddingly unpredictable scheduling process, the car carrier shipping process has been quite unpredictable as well. I do think that rail-carried trucks have a better chance of making it to their destination on-time provided that a) they aren't going through CA or Chicago (and maybe a few other overwhelmed switch yards) and b) the local trucking outfit in that region is keeping up with demand.

One of the plant employees in the Facebook Group likes to remind people that they have a ~290K order backlog which is, far and away, the biggest thing that is keeping people's orders from being scheduled/produced, because there's just so many, beyond any fleeting commodity restrictions or temporary part shortages. To your point, that probably means they're going to have a hard time getting all of those made within the 2022 calendar year.

-SR-
 
Ordered 8-27-21.
2022 F250 Platinum Tremor Crew Cab, Black interior, Antimatter Blue
6.7 Diesel
Sunroof
Upfitter switches
5th wheel prep
Spray in bed liner
Winch
Mud flaps
Rear wheel liners
Powered running boards
Pretty much everything except adaptive steering.

Got VIN in late Feb.

Initial build date 3-7-22
changed to 3-28-22
changed to 4-16-22
changed to 5-1-22

Never a single email from Ford. I have to keep contacting the salesman. Hopefully this latest build date of 5-1-22 will stick.
 
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