Stock height pavement pounder why even spend the money? get a set of Bilstein 4600's for the price of one HTO. Any performance shock will ride firmer than the sloppy stocks, even the 4600's will be firmer. The 2.5 HTO is set above the 2.0's (even with resi) and below the 2.5 Performance Elites, so it is a lot of shock if you're not going to use it. I have the 2.5 PE's, if I didn't I would have the HTO's, since I have no plans on pounding the whoops and dropping Carli cash. Other wise I would have the Pin Top at a minimum or the Dominator set up. On a side note, the 23-25 trucks ride so much better than the previous generation trucks it doesn't seem like the Carli, Fox, Icon, King you name it treatment is as drastic as it use to be.