23+ Front Axle change too?

[StrokinOut]

Can someone with a MY23 or 24 F-350 6.7 (12000 lb GVWR) tell us what front GAWR is shown on the door jam sticker?

I'll try to find you a pic of a door jamb sticker if no one else does first. I can tell you that the same Front GAWR is on the 23/24 trucks with this axle as there has been in previous years. You still get 5990 with plow prep and 6.7l.

 

[BroncOh]

#SaveTheDana60s

 

[shermanator2]

I'll try to find you a pic of a door jamb sticker if no one else does first. I can tell you that the same Front GAWR is on the 23/24 trucks with this axle as there has been in previous years. You still get 5990 with plow prep and 6.7l.

That would be great. If you do this, please take a quick peak and be sure it has a 14 bolt cover. It is always possible that they might still use the M256 in certain configurations like F-350 6.7 with snow plow prep, or maybe with DRW.

 

[Mister Bevilaqua]

My ‘23 has a GAWR of 5200 on the sticker.

Those numbers match the Excursion/SD 1999-2003 D50 numbers. Basically a hybrid D50 so somewhere between a built HD D44 and a weaker D60 because the outers are still D60 components. While a downgrade on paper not something undersized imho for the application and metallurgy and other components have improved a lot in the last 25 years as well.

Back to the collective mass meltdown over silly crap that will never impact anyone on here.

 

[shermanator2]

My ‘23 has a GAWR of 5200 on the sticker.

Thank you for posting your sticker.
Weren't 22 and earlier F-350 Tremor front GAWRs 5600? I know even my 2006 CCSB with a gas V-10 is 5600.

 

[StrokinOut]

Thank you for posting your sticker.
Weren't 22 and earlier F-350 Tremor front GAWRs 5600? I know even my 2006 CCSB with a gas V-10 is 5600.

His would be a 250 with that 11k GVWR.
I know on the non Tremor 17-22, 5200 was the base rate up front for 4wd CCSB 6.7l.

 

[BroncOh]

Thank you for posting your sticker.
Weren't 22 and earlier F-350 Tremor front GAWRs 5600? I know even my 2006 CCSB with a gas V-10 is 5600.

My ‘22 F350 Tremor front GAWR is 5200 lbs.

Currently I’m 60 lbs. over the front GAWR based on a recent weigh.

 

[Mister Bevilaqua]

If a ‘22 F-350 6.7L GAWR is same 5200 then I struggle to understand what everyone is all bent out of shape about?! The differential appears to have changed while gaining ground clearance, it’s not a factor. Now if they had swapped the rear axle out to a D60 then I could understand the concern.

 

[Mister Bevilaqua]

Thank you for posting your sticker.
Weren't 22 and earlier F-350 Tremor front GAWRs 5600? I know even my 2006 CCSB with a gas V-10 is 5600.

I’d expect a higher GAWR on a gasser with its lighter engine.

 

[StrokinOut]

I’d expect a higher GAWR on a gasser with its lighter engine.

Gas models start at a lower GAWR. It's not variable like the payload number, meaning vehicle weight doesn't change it. It's actually based on spring rate which is selected based on build configuration. A gas 4wd CCSB would have a base spring rate at around 4800, maybe less.

 

[Mister Bevilaqua]

Gas models start at a lower GAWR. It's not variable like the payload number, meaning vehicle weight doesn't change it. It's actually based on spring rate which is selected based on build configuration. A gas 4wd CCSB with 6.7l would have a base spring rate at around 4800, maybe less.

Show me.

 

[VB!]

Gas models start at a lower GAWR. It's not variable like the payload number, meaning vehicle weight doesn't change it. It's actually based on spring rate which is selected based on build configuration. A gas 4wd CCSB with 6.7l would have a base spring rate at around 4800, maybe less.

Interesting you mention 4,800. the front GAWR on both my '21 and '23 7.3 F-250 Tremors is 4,800.

All the chicken little talk about a smaller ring gear is fun but I think misses the point. I'm more concerned with the specs of the housing, the casting, the tube wall thickness, and the size of the knuckles (we can add in bearing spacing and carrier design and the impacts on gear deflection too). Those are the things that we'll break in heavy trucks like a Tremor. I'm waiting for information on this.

This will help. This is a K10 Dana 44 with a 6.2 sitting above it. Basically its the heaviest configuration GM would have put over this axle. The 6.2 is built and the turbo system was modified. It's quite fun to drive. No amount of hard throttle driving, wheel spin/stop shock, etc. broke it. This is what happened to it when the kids decided to see if it could fly in the dunes in Johnson Valley..............

The things no one is talking about here are the things that matter.

 

[TremorKR]

21 F250 Tremor 6.7L CCSB door sticker fwiw.

 

[Mister Bevilaqua]

21 F250 Tremor door sticker fwiw.View attachment 140649

Gasser or diesel? Note that lower rear GAWR.

 

[TremorKR]

This is a 6.7L diesel. From what i understand the 10800 is the standard gvwr on a 250 tremor as the high capacity trailer package is a necassary add. But i could be wrong, still new to these years.

 

[STDevil]

I get more and more pleased with my F350 (delivered in late February '21 just before everything went to heck) every day. True, I did get blessed with the thin walled M275 that had to be recalled, but I love the front Super 60. I marvel at it every time I crawl under the truck to change the oil. I think I am going to rename that axle "Jabba the Hutt".

 

[StrokinOut]

Interesting you mention 4,800. the front GAWR on both my '21 and '23 7.3 F-250 Tremors is 4,800.

You quoting my post made me see that I wrote gas engine followed by 6.7l...lol, corrected that. Anyway, since you have an example of exactly what I was saying would you mind showing Mister Bevilaqua. He expressed interest in seeing that.

 

[TremorKR]

I get more and more pleased with my F350 (delivered in late February '21 just before everything went to heck) every day. True, I did get blessed with the thin walled M275 that had to be recalled, but I love the front Super 60. I marvel at it every time I crawl under the truck to change the oil. I think I am going to rename that axle "Jabba the Hutt".

Any more info on the rear axle recall? Still new to these MYs. I do remember seeing a recall about the rear axle in my research but if you could help with any relevant info it would be appreciated.

 

[StrokinOut]

That would be great. If you do this, please take a quick peak and be sure it has a 14 bolt cover. It is always possible that they might still use the M256 in certain configurations like F-350 6.7 with snow plow prep, or maybe with DRW.

Owner feedback on other forums have said they still have the 14 bolt with the plow prep and 5990 GAWR, at least SRW. I am curious to look under a DRW 350.

And for the hell of it, here is the sticker from a '24 F-350 Tremor with 6.7l, it does have the 14 bolt front axle.

 

[427windsorman]

When the engineers win, that is true. When the bean counters win, not so much. You have more faith in Ford than I do.

Ditto. Ford bean counters have ruined many a bad azz Ford model over the years.