23+ Front Axle change too?

[Devenhallen]

Front Axle should see about 1/2 of the engine torque with both driveshafts driven.
I'd speculate the axle is rated for at least 5600# and 600ft-lbf

That isnt at all how that works.....

 

[shermanator2]

That isnt at all how that works.....

You are correct. See my post #106 immediately after the one you quoted. There is no torque split and it has nothing to do with engine torque.

 

[mikeylikesit]

This just showed up today, I’ll see if it fits in a few weeks when the truck comes in. It’s kinda annoying that it didn’t come with a fill plug, But the gasket is top notch.

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the gasket looks near the same that rams been using for many years now. might even be the same company making both. theyre excellent gaskets

 

[Explorerinil]

My 2024 F250 FX4 Lariat Supercab 7.3L has only one selectable hub.

Yes they did that as a cost savings. The axle shaft with the fixed hub is rotating now with your wheel. You can easily swap a ford manual hub in place of the fixed hub, which is what I would do.

 

[Chadx]

Yes they did that as a cost savings. The axle shaft with the fixed hub is rotating now with your wheel. You can easily swap a ford manual hub in place of the fixed hub, which is what I would do.

Yep. I was just answering @BroncoHooves who had previously stated "Wonder if 24 FX4s have only one selectable hub.".
The answer is yes.

Unless there someday is some real-world evidence of reliability issues, I'm not worrying about it at all; Especially not enough to replace now. In 5+ years we'll see if there is actual evidence of some shortcoming.

 

[RedDawg]

Someone was asking for this.

Here are my MY24 door stickers.

 

[shermanator2]

For what it is worth, my 2024 F-350 6.7 Tremor built at the end of January has a 14 bolt front diff, two unlockable hubs, and a 5600 lb front GAWR.

 

[MVI]

2024 F-350 7.3Gasser Tremor built Dec 2023 has a 14 bolt front diff, two unlockable hubs, and a 4800 lb front / 7050 lb rear GAWR

 

[overland]

250 6.7

 

[moxford]

MY23 plat 6.7, built 6/23, GVWR 11k, 5200 / 6240 split.

 

[adv_cj]

23 F350 XLT Tremor.

 

[Mister Bevilaqua]

23 F350 XLT Tremor.

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Deets on your bikes?!

 

[Shooter373]

Was browsing another popular Ford forum and came across a post where a bunch of 23+ users are saying their front axles are no longer the Dana M256 (Super 60) that was offered in the 17-22’ trucks. The M256 axle has 10 diff cover bolts while the new axles seem to have 14 diff cover bolts now…the new axle is also physically smaller, the pinion is smaller, etc. The folks on that forum are theorizing it’s a new Dana M235 front axle (basically a Dana 50 pumpkin). If so that is a definite downgrade in strength over the previous M256 axle.

If you folks with 23/24 Tremors could look underneath your trucks and count your diff cover bolts we can see if Ford did in fact keep the M256 in the Tremor Super Duty’s or if they downsized to the M235 as well. Ford also took away one of the locking hubs on non-Tremor F250/350s. The passenger side hub is now always engaged and the spider gears constantly spin. Seems like quite a bit of quiet cost cutting going on…

I saw that one too!

 

[Borg]

I'll have to look at my 23, but I'm guessing the f250 might have a dana 50 and the f350 has the dana 60. This is how it was in the early 2000's as far as axels. I had a 2000 f250 and it had a dana 50, the 350's had the 60. Never did have an issue with the dana 50.

 

[mikeylikesit]

f250 and 350 have always been the same front axle going back atleast 20yr now and theyre still both the same today. so theres that.

its also not a d50. some call it a d50 because they dont know any better but thats not what it is. theres some similaritiers but plenty of differences.

there were quit a few d60 varients used in pickups. the older versions had lower capacity ratings, smaller ujoints, smaller tubes ,etc etc. saying you have a d60 tells us nothing without mentioning the year and what vehicle its from

 

[Fozzy]

Being pretty new to this forum, I just read through all these posts. So the question is, 23 is over and 24 is almost over. How many have blown the new front diff apart? Should be a boat load with all the fear of the downgrade.

 

[Mister Bevilaqua]

All of it is overblown.

 

[Shotgun]

The fact that it even changed just rattles some people. Most, if not all, have no clue the differences of any of them. All they know is "OMG, it's not the same as it was." Truth be known, few or none of them will fail under normal use and maintenance.

 

[shermanator2]

I think that all MY23 and MY24 Tremors of either weight class came with a Dana M235 with a 14 bolt cover. I have not heard of anyone blowing one up yet. Earlier Tremors came with a Dana M256 with a 10 bolt cover. Am I wrong on any of this?

 

[mikeylikesit]

Most, if not all, have no clue the differences of any of them. All they know is "OMG, it's not the same as it was."

that sums it up right on the money. if it werent for the internet most folks wouldnt ever know it was a different axle. even seeing it first hand i didnt realize it was different at first