Tremor Payload??

@MJLonghors, I think the guys on here have given you a great deal of sound advice and important information to consider. I get the impression you haven't truck camped much in the past, just my impression from your comments. I have a couple suggestions.

One is to do some practice camping with a truck camper before you make your purchase. Even a large truck camper can be challenging for a novice to properly equip for an extended stay in the camper, like an Alaskan excursion. You are going to be pushing every limitation with the setup you are describing and one thing seasoned RVers will tell you is that it takes a considerable amount of experience to know what you need to take along for a long trip, but more importantly what you don't need to take along. Universally most novices take way too much gear and struggle with overloading their RVs.

Secondly I think you need to change your approach to one of minimizing the size/weight of your camper for the sake of improving your driving experience to and through Alaska. Your original plan of getting a Tremor is pretty sound as the Tremor is designed and equipped to handle the harshness of the journey you are planning. Not that a 450 won't do a fine job, but unimproved roads are far more suited to the Tremor than a standard 450. The Tremor will take you to a wider range of destinations than the 450 will, as long as you don't overload the Tremor.

Keep in mind you are going to push every system in your truck to the extreme in this journey. You don't want to be driving a rig that is maxed out in extreme remote areas with little experience. Underloading and having extra capacities in all areas would be a better way to go. There are numerous campers on the market that will give you plenty of room at a considerable weight savings if you look around, and you'd be surprised how much less camper you can comfortably live with once you get a little experience.

To put it in a nut shell, you are going to experience break downs and difficulties on this trip no matter what. The more you max out your truck and push its limitations the more likely your trip will be an "extreme" adventure. If it were me I would design my rig so that when I pull out from my home, the truck has ample extra capacity in every way to handle anything Alaska can throw at me, including extra gear for breakdowns. FYI tires will take a real beating in Alaska, and help isn't always available.

Not trying to discourage, just trying to help a fellow enthusiast to strike out with eyes wide open. Good luck!! 🍻 🇺🇸
Thank you so much! I don't have any truck camping experience. It has just been a dream for many years. Yes, I definitely plan to get to know my truck and truck camper setup. Actually, plan to take it on many smaller road trips for a couple of years in the lower 48 states before I go to Alaska. I know I have a lot of learning to do. Also, I plan to convert my electric system in the camp to Lithium/solar/alternator re-gen and other mods. It will really give me time to get to know what can go wrong with the truck camper. Separately, I will be upgrading the truck as I move along as well. It's not a won and done situation, but more of a journey with lots of learning.

By the way, the other route I'm thinking is instead of getting the Tremor package, maybe I need to look at 3rd mods like CJC Offroad, https://carlisuspension.com/, to beef up the truck. Thank you for thoughtful feedback which I greatly appreciate! This will not be an impulse buy. 😄I just want to start with a good foundation and build from there. I figure I need to start somewhere and just get going...
 
I looked hard at the 820 and Northern Lite 8-11. Ultimately, I went with 8-11 (dry weight of 2750) because I think NL does better at giving an accurate dry weight, as built. I think the Cirrus 820 is a just a bit heavier than published (not a fact but just my thought). Another member on this forum (Uncas) had a 820 on a F350 Tremor and his loaded GVWR was around 12000-12200 lbs. (see post link below)


I run our 8-11 on a 2020 F350 Tremor XLT (7.3) with 4012 lbs of cargo load capacity. Realize that most (if not all) truck camper weight in on the rear axle. My RAWR is 6950 and a GVWR of 11300. I am always right at those limits but the truck handles it fine. I run upper stableloads and airbags (5 psi in left and 20 psi in the right side bag since that side is heavier). The real limiting factors are tires/wheels. Done the Alaska drive twice in the summer ... not bad at all on the ALCAN. Get the Milepost and you will be fine.
Thank you for sharing the Tremor camping thread link. I haven't come across this thread, looks like loads of good info. I do plan to make mods to help with stabilizing the load and the truck, improve drivability and safety. Looking at f-rated tires and maybe bigger wheels (37") with Carli suspension setup... Airbags would be great to have too. I came across Torklift stableloads info as well.
 
Thank you so much! I don't have any truck camping experience. It has just been a dream for many years. Yes, I definitely plan to get to know my truck and truck camper setup. Actually, plan to take it on many smaller road trips for a couple of years in the lower 48 states before I go to Alaska. I know I have a lot of learning to do. Also, I plan to convert my electric system in the camp to Lithium/solar/alternator re-gen and other mods. It will really give me time to get to know what can go wrong with the truck camper. Separately, I will be upgrading the truck as I move along as well. It's not a won and done situation, but more of a journey with lots of learning.

By the way, the other route I'm thinking is instead of getting the Tremor package, maybe I need to look at 3rd mods like CJC Offroad, https://carlisuspension.com/, to beef up the truck. Thank you for thoughtful feedback which I greatly appreciate! This will not be an impulse buy. 😄I just want to start with a good foundation and build from there. I figure I need to start somewhere and just get going...
Fantastic! I've just heard so many horror stories of big plans that ended in disaster. You're definitely starting off right, and I guarantee that you will make adjustments as you go. YouTube has a wealth of information from dedicated full-timers and RV experts that will save you a lot of headaches. Good luck and keep us posted. 🍻
 
Thank you for sharing the Tremor camping thread link. I haven't come across this thread, looks like loads of good info. I do plan to make mods to help with stabilizing the load and the truck, improve drivability and safety. Looking at f-rated tires and maybe bigger wheels (37") with Carli suspension setup... Airbags would be great to have too. I came across Torklift stableloads info as well.
Here's another option if it looks interesting to you. I think this is way cool.
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Here's another option if it looks interesting to you. I think this is way cool.
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💲💰💸

For context, expect that to start comfortably into 6 figures. EarthCruiser stuff is high quality and incredibly well designed, but you absolutely will pay for it.
 
Here's another option if it looks interesting to you. I think this is way cool.
earthcruiser-terranova-side-exterior.jpg
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Looks awesome! Very inconspicuous and on a flat-bed. I'll have to check it out.
 
I'd guess 2700 pounds.
I would guess less than that... Mine is 2720 and I do not have the winch, power running boards, moonroof, or 5th wheel prep
 
I would guess less than that... Mine is 2720 and I do not have the winch, power running boards, moonroof, or 5th wheel prep

Dang. The 7.3 is heavier than I thought. I was figuring it's specced about the same as mine (except diesel) and I have F350 with total weight of ~8300 pounds or so. So figured his must weigh ~7300.
 
Dang. The 7.3 is heavier than I thought. I was figuring it's specced about the same as mine (except diesel) and I have F350 with total weight of ~8300 pounds or so. So figured his must weigh ~7300.
Keep in mind the GVWR is different between 7.3 and 6.7. Diesel is 800lbs higher in F250 and 200lbs higher in F350 with no derate:

 
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Anyone know what type of payload this build would have?

Thanks
My F-350 is 3,127 with 6.7 PowerStroke - I have all the options you have, except AS and vehicle vault- I have read 6.7 is 800 lbs. +/- more - so that would suggest 3,900 +/- - less the drop for F250 rating vs my F350 - not sure what that delta is.
 
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Here is mine. 22 F350 Platinum Tremor 6.7l. No Moonroof. No AS. Fifth Wheel Prep Package. 11500#
 

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Here is mine. 22 F350 Platinum Tremor 6.7l. No Moonroof. No AS. Fifth Wheel Prep Package. 11500#
Mine is also 11,500# - That means the moon roof is 200 lbs +/- - wasn't going to get that - but did - once it arrived and I saw all that glass I could think was will that break under flex? if you roll - will make a mess!
 
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Mine is also 11,500# - That means the moon roof is 200 lbs +/- - wasn't going to get that - but did - once it arrived and I saw all that glass I could think was will that break under flex? if you roll - will make a mess!
Thanks everyone. That was the first truck that I ordered back in May from a dealership in Delaware. I pulled out from that deal and ordered the same build from Granger in August with adaptive cruise instead of adaptive steering. I was hoping for at least 2600 lbs. payload but from what you guys are saying it sounds like it may be a little less.
 
Has anyone been able to figure out what sort of difference if any the factory winch makes to payload? I assume it equates to something on the sticker but curious if it is substantial.
 
Has anyone been able to figure out what sort of difference if any the factory winch makes to payload? I assume it equates to something on the sticker but curious if it is substantial.
OEM winch weighs approximately 133 lbs. - so that should be a deduct - would make a case to order your winch after the fact - not when you order your truck - to get a higher figure on your sticker.
 
OEM winch weighs approximately 133 lbs. - so that should be a deduct - would make a case to order your winch after the fact - not when you order your truck - to get a higher figure on your sticker.
I don’t think we have confirmation either way whether the winch is accounted for in the factory sticker. Since it’s dealer installed, it wouldn’t surprise me if the factory sticker does not account for it.
 
I don’t think we have confirmation either way whether the winch is accounted for in the factory sticker. Since it’s dealer installed, it wouldn’t surprise me if the factory sticker does not account for it.
This is my hope as well.
OEM winch weighs approximately 133 lbs. - so that should be a deduct - would make a case to order your winch after the fact - not when you order your truck - to get a higher figure on your sticker.
Yes in hindsight it definitely would've been. At the time I ordered there wasn't Canadian pricing for the part on its own so I wrongly assumed the factory was cheaper. But not changing my order now at 6 months in unscheduled. Whatever happens happens.
 
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