Transfer Flow 58 gallon replacement tanks are finally being sold and installed!!!!

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They didn't want the truck for the install till I had it less than a 1/4 and preferred 1/8 or less. Just a little planning on your part will make it so much easier.
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I ran out of gas a couple miles from the installer when I had mine done. Brought a long a gas can and put in just enough to make it. They were very appreciative as it made dealing with the old tank a breeze.
 
So Harbor Freight has this transmission jack that is 7.25" off of the ground and goes up to 23.625" so I think that there is plenty of height. Again the ideal would be to have it at like 1" at the bottom but I do not think that I will find that. Here are some links on the transmission jack which is presently $130 with no coupon or special deal.






Then they have their motorcycle jack for the same price as well. https://www.harborfreight.com/1500-lb-steel-atvmotorcycle-lift-60536.html There is a video on this. The nice thing about this is the lowest level is 4.25" and it will go up to 16.375" It only has two swivel wheels as apposed the the 4 swivel wheels on the transmission jack and it is bigger and weighs more than the transmission jack. Again all for the same price. I tend to think that the transmission jack would be better if I can get the truck height just enough to slide the tank underneath and visa versa when taking the existing tank down.

Any thoughts and any other suggestions for jacks.
 
Just a follow up. The clearance on the side of the truck where the drivers side of the truck which is stock is 20" meaning there is a 2" clearance since the TF tank at its highest point is 18" high. If I use a set of 4 ramps which are at least 7" high and drive the truck up on the ramps I will not have to jack the truck up. Redzilla in post #858 made the point about taking and cutting a bunch of 2x12's and making it safe with the truck sitting on the wheels. Using 4 ramps would allow that. I have one set which is actually close to 9" high. I looked at the set Harbor Freight has which are actually 7" high. I am going to check with some friends to see if any have a set that I could borrow and hopefully they will be close to the height that I need. I think that this would solve the height problem and the simple transmission jack from Harbor Freight could give me a good tool to be able to lift the tank into place.

One other note, of those of you who did a driveway install, how was it working around the drive shaft since the driveshaft looks pretty close to me and you still need to be able to get to the top of the tank in order to connect everything up and I am wondering if the drive shaft will give me a challenge to do that.
 
Robpm said:
Just a follow up. The clearance on the side of the truck where the drivers side of the truck which is stock is 20" meaning there is a 2" clearance since the TF tank at its highest point is 18" high. If I use a set of 4 ramps which are at least 7" high and drive the truck up on the ramps I will not have to jack the truck up. Redzilla in post #858 made the point about taking and cutting a bunch of 2x12's and making it safe with the truck sitting on the wheels. Using 4 ramps would allow that. I have one set which is actually close to 9" high. I looked at the set Harbor Freight has which are actually 7" high. I am going to check with some friends to see if any have a set that I could borrow and hopefully they will be close to the height that I need. I think that this would solve the height problem and the simple transmission jack from Harbor Freight could give me a good tool to be able to lift the tank into place.

One other note, of those of you who did a driveway install, how was it working around the drive shaft since the driveshaft looks pretty close to me and you still need to be able to get to the top of the tank in order to connect everything up and I am wondering if the drive shaft will give me a challenge to do that.
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Looks like you’re working out a good plan. I think you’ll look back when finished and be surprised how well it worked out. Not sure if you’ll need any special tools for disconnecting your fuel lines but if so you can borrow for free at most auto part stores. 👍
 
Robpm said:
Just a follow up. The clearance on the side of the truck where the drivers side of the truck which is stock is 20" meaning there is a 2" clearance since the TF tank at its highest point is 18" high. If I use a set of 4 ramps which are at least 7" high and drive the truck up on the ramps I will not have to jack the truck up. Redzilla in post #858 made the point about taking and cutting a bunch of 2x12's and making it safe with the truck sitting on the wheels. Using 4 ramps would allow that. I have one set which is actually close to 9" high. I looked at the set Harbor Freight has which are actually 7" high. I am going to check with some friends to see if any have a set that I could borrow and hopefully they will be close to the height that I need. I think that this would solve the height problem and the simple transmission jack from Harbor Freight could give me a good tool to be able to lift the tank into place.

One other note, of those of you who did a driveway install, how was it working around the drive shaft since the driveshaft looks pretty close to me and you still need to be able to get to the top of the tank in order to connect everything up and I am wondering if the drive shaft will give me a challenge to do that.
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Did you get it installed ?
I just got my truck and plan to order a 58gal tank this week.
 
Here is an update. Yes the tank is installed. Was it easy, no. All and all for a driveway install it took us 12 hours total with prep and clean up and of those 12 hours it was a solid 10 hours with a break for lunch so maybe a solid 9 hours without lunch. I did not keep track on the time spent on lunch but it was more than 1/2 hour. There were two post problems which I equate to finishing late at night and both of us being tired. One of them was a significant problem which I will note for all and it was not a problem of Transfer Flo. It was a human problem. I will seek to give all the details soon.

What I can say is that I love it. I did my first long run with it from northern NJ down to just below York PA and back (~400 miles) and then my son took it up north about an hour of where we are to buy some ethanal-free gas for the 1930 Buick so that we could run it around a little giving the grand kids some rides in it, and then more local driving with it. The truck went 628.5 miles and it read 0 miles to empty and the gauge was not quite on empty yet. You can see it in the attached picture. I could only put 48 gallons in it so I still had 10 gallons before I was totally empty. And the Average MPG it showed was 12.7 and on the highway part I was over 14 MPG and got up to 15 MPG which I was happy for. I think I could get an average of 15 MPG if I was not so heavy on the pedal.

One thing is for sure, it would be nice to be able to update the computer in the system by forscan if it was possible in the 23-25 MY trucks. I hope someday this problem could be solved like it is in the 20-22 MY trucks. The gas gauge does work since it is using the OEM hardware in the 58 gallon tank from the OEM 34 gallon tank. It shows, given the fact that I still had 10 gallons in the tank when I went to fill it up, that I could have gone over 700 miles on a tank of gas if I am doing a lot of highway driving! I am happy with that.

As I said I will follow up with details on the install. I would have liked to have posted on the install long before now but my schedule has just not allowed it. I can tell you I would do it again if I had to and of course I am much wiser now since doing it once. There are a lot of tips I will add into our installation. I am sorry we did not video it but I did an after video going around under the truck. There is advice I am giving to Transfer Flo on one thing that they need to address which is shown in my post video. I would like to see other items documented in their installation manual which is in many ways very good but there are a lot of things which could be added. Also it would be really good if someone could take the time to do a good install video. Maybe at some point someone will do that. One with all the gotchas and with good lighting which is necessary and details as well.

One other thing is that we could not have done it without removing the drive shaft. When I spoke to Transfer Flo they told me that they do not remove the driveshaft for liability reasons but of course they have a lift that they put it on but even then I would say it would be pretty difficult to do this mod without removing the drive shaft. The guy I spoke with at TF said he would recommend removing the drive shaft and we did. As you will see in the video it is pretty close to the tank. The tank fits like a glove and clears all important things but not with a lot of room to spare. All of their (TF) notes are excellent but again there are tips to add which I would say from our experience are pretty important.

As a side note I got an email from the manual company that the USB stick with the service manual was back in stock and I purchased it. It arrived on this past Saturday. I would have loved to have had this to look at some things like removing the drive shaft since there is some good info in it.

All in all again I like it very much and I would do it again.

Robpm

P.S. this was an after edit to this post. I decided you all might like to see the numbers and gauges on the truck for when I finished the trip down to below York PA and back. It shows almost 400 miles. What is interesting is that you can see the MTE and the Average MPG. How the computer works to get the AVG MPG to work so well I am not sure. and show the gas gauge accurately and yet show the MTE calculation to be so bad is beyond me.


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Robpm said:
Here is an update. Yes the tank is installed. Was it easy, no. All and all for a driveway install it took us 12 hours total with prep and clean up and of those 12 hours it was a solid 10 hours with a break for lunch so maybe a solid 9 hours without lunch. I did not keep track on the time spent on lunch but it was more than 1/2 hour. There were two post problems which I equate to finishing late at night and both of us being tired. One of them was a significant problem which I will note for all and it was not a problem of Transfer Flo. It was a human problem. I will seek to give all the details soon.

What I can say is that I love it. I did my first long run with it from northern NJ down to just below York PA and back (~400 miles) and then my son took it up north about an hour of where we are to buy some ethanal-free gas for the 1930 Buick so that we could run it around a little giving the grand kids some rides in it, and then more local driving with it. The truck went 628.5 miles and it read 0 miles to empty and the gauge was not quite on empty yet. You can see it in the attached picture. I could only put 48 gallons in it so I still had 10 gallons before I was totally empty. And the Average MPG it showed was 12.7 and on the highway part I was over 14 MPG and got up to 15 MPG which I was happy for. I think I could get an average of 15 MPG if I was not so heavy on the pedal.

One thing is for sure, it would be nice to be able to update the computer in the system by forscan if it was possible in the 23-25 MY trucks. I hope someday this problem could be solved like it is in the 20-22 MY trucks. The gas gauge does work since it is using the OEM hardware in the 58 gallon tank from the OEM 34 gallon tank. It shows, given the fact that I still had 10 gallons in the tank when I went to fill it up, that I could have gone over 700 miles on a tank of gas if I am doing a lot of highway driving! I am happy with that.

As I said I will follow up with details on the install. I would have liked to have posted on the install long before now but my schedule has just not allowed it. I can tell you I would do it again if I had to and of course I am much wiser now since doing it once. There are a lot of tips I will add into our installation. I am sorry we did not video it but I did an after video going around under the truck. There is advice I am giving to Transfer Flo on one thing that they need to address which is shown in my post video. I would like to see other items documented in their installation manual which is in many ways very good but there are a lot of things which could be added. Also it would be really good if someone could take the time to do a good install video. Maybe at some point someone will do that. One with all the gotchas and with good lighting which is necessary and details as well.

One other thing is that we could not have done it without removing the drive shaft. When I spoke to Transfer Flo they told me that they do not remove the driveshaft for liability reasons but of course they have a lift that they put it on but even then I would say it would be pretty difficult to do this mod without removing the drive shaft. The guy I spoke with at TF said he would recommend removing the drive shaft and we did. As you will see in the video it is pretty close to the tank. The tank fits like a glove and clears all important things but not with a lot of room to spare. All of their (TF) notes are excellent but again there are tips to add which I would say from our experience are pretty important.

As a side note I got an email from the manual company that the USB stick with the service manual was back in stock and I purchased it. It arrived on this past Saturday. I would have loved to have had this to look at some things like removing the drive shaft since there is some good info in it.

All in all again I like it very much and I would do it again.

Robpm

P.S. this was an after edit to this post. I decided you all might like to see the numbers and gauges on the truck for when I finished the trip down to below York PA and back. It shows almost 400 miles. What is interesting is that you can see the MTE and the Average MPG. How the computer works to get the AVG MPG to work so well I am not sure. and show the gas gauge accurately and yet show the MTE calculation to be so bad is beyond me.


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Congratulations and welcome to the $175 fill up club! 🤪
 
Optimus🤖 said:
Congratulations and welcome to the $175 fill up club! 🤪
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Thank you!

The good thing is that in NJ if I fill up at a BJ's with the card I am presently paying $2.64/Gal. So even if I could run it down and have to fill it up at 58 gallons the fill up would be max $153. I spent $129 yesterday on my fill up. the problem is that they will only let you go to 40 gallons on each transaction so you have to do 2 transactions per fill up!:cautious: That is NJ for you. Still the only state that will not let you pump your own gas!
 
Robpm said:
What I can say is that I love it. I did my first long run with it from northern NJ down to just below York PA and back (~400 miles) and then my son took it up north about an hour of where we are to buy some ethanal-free gas for the 1930 Buick so that we could run it around a little giving the grand kids some rides in it, and then more local driving with it. The truck went 628.5 miles and it read 0 miles to empty and the gauge was not quite on empty yet. You can see it in the attached picture. I could only put 48 gallons in it so I still had 10 gallons before I was totally empty. And the Average MPG it showed was 12.7 and on the highway part I was over 14 MPG and got up to 15 MPG which I was happy for. I think I could get an average of 15 MPG if I was not so heavy on the pedal.

One thing is for sure, it would be nice to be able to update the computer in the system by forscan if it was possible in the 23-25 MY trucks. I hope someday this problem could be solved like it is in the 20-22 MY trucks. The gas gauge does work since it is using the OEM hardware in the 58 gallon tank from the OEM 34 gallon tank. It shows, given the fact that I still had 10 gallons in the tank when I went to fill it up, that I could have gone over 700 miles on a tank of gas if I am doing a lot of highway driving! I am happy with that.

As I said I will follow up with details on the install. I would have liked to have posted on the install long before now but my schedule has just not allowed it. I can tell you I would do it again if I had to and of course I am much wiser now since doing it once. There are a lot of tips I will add into our installation. I am sorry we did not video it but I did an after video going around under the truck. There is advice I am giving to Transfer Flo on one thing that they need to address which is shown in my post video. I would like to see other items documented in their installation manual which is in many ways very good but there are a lot of things which could be added. Also it would be really good if someone could take the time to do a good install video. Maybe at some point someone will do that. One with all the gotchas and with good lighting which is necessary and details as well.

One other thing is that we could not have done it without removing the drive shaft. When I spoke to Transfer Flo they told me that they do not remove the driveshaft for liability reasons but of course they have a lift that they put it on but even then I would say it would be pretty difficult to do this mod without removing the drive shaft. The guy I spoke with at TF said he would recommend removing the drive shaft and we did. As you will see in the video it is pretty close to the tank. The tank fits like a glove and clears all important things but not with a lot of room to spare. All of their (TF) notes are excellent but again there are tips to add which I would say from our experience are pretty important.

As a side note I got an email from the manual company that the USB stick with the service manual was back in stock and I purchased it. It arrived on this past Saturday. I would have loved to have had this to look at some things like removing the drive shaft since there is some good info in it.

All in all again I like it very much and I would do it again.

Robpm

P.S. this was an after edit to this post. I decided you all might like to see the numbers and gauges on the truck for when I finished the trip down to below York PA and back. It shows almost 400 miles. What is interesting is that you can see the MTE and the Average MPG. How the computer works to get the AVG MPG to work so well I am not sure. and show the gas gauge accurately and yet show the MTE calculation to be so bad is beyond me.


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Use CC and stay under 60 and you can get 17-18mpg..man it would suck to drive that far for non ethanol gas.
 
Sccritterkiller said:
Use CC and stay under 60 and you can get 17-18mpg..man it would suck to drive that far for non ethanol gas.
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Yes NJ will not allow anyone to sell ethanol free gas unless you are working with racing cars and I have noticed that mariners seem to be able to sell it. The price from those places was over $20/gallon and the place in NY was $4.15/gallon. NJ is not too friendly to those who are of a non green or non blue persuasion!
 
Robpm said:
Thank you!

The good thing is that in NJ if I fill up at a BJ's with the card I am presently paying $2.64/Gal. So even if I could run it down and have to fill it up at 58 gallons the fill up would be max $153. I spent $129 yesterday on my fill up. the problem is that they will only let you go to 40 gallons on each transaction so you have to do 2 transactions per fill up!:cautious: That is NJ for you. Still the only state that will not let you pump your own gas!
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Filling up and BJ's is the best combination! 🤪
 
Robpm said:
Here is an update. Yes the tank is installed. Was it easy, no. All and all for a driveway install it took us 12 hours total with prep and clean up and of those 12 hours it was a solid 10 hours with a break for lunch so maybe a solid 9 hours without lunch. I did not keep track on the time spent on lunch but it was more than 1/2 hour. There were two post problems which I equate to finishing late at night and both of us being tired. One of them was a significant problem which I will note for all and it was not a problem of Transfer Flo. It was a human problem. I will seek to give all the details soon.

What I can say is that I love it. I did my first long run with it from northern NJ down to just below York PA and back (~400 miles) and then my son took it up north about an hour of where we are to buy some ethanal-free gas for the 1930 Buick so that we could run it around a little giving the grand kids some rides in it, and then more local driving with it. The truck went 628.5 miles and it read 0 miles to empty and the gauge was not quite on empty yet. You can see it in the attached picture. I could only put 48 gallons in it so I still had 10 gallons before I was totally empty. And the Average MPG it showed was 12.7 and on the highway part I was over 14 MPG and got up to 15 MPG which I was happy for. I think I could get an average of 15 MPG if I was not so heavy on the pedal.

One thing is for sure, it would be nice to be able to update the computer in the system by forscan if it was possible in the 23-25 MY trucks. I hope someday this problem could be solved like it is in the 20-22 MY trucks. The gas gauge does work since it is using the OEM hardware in the 58 gallon tank from the OEM 34 gallon tank. It shows, given the fact that I still had 10 gallons in the tank when I went to fill it up, that I could have gone over 700 miles on a tank of gas if I am doing a lot of highway driving! I am happy with that.

As I said I will follow up with details on the install. I would have liked to have posted on the install long before now but my schedule has just not allowed it. I can tell you I would do it again if I had to and of course I am much wiser now since doing it once. There are a lot of tips I will add into our installation. I am sorry we did not video it but I did an after video going around under the truck. There is advice I am giving to Transfer Flo on one thing that they need to address which is shown in my post video. I would like to see other items documented in their installation manual which is in many ways very good but there are a lot of things which could be added. Also it would be really good if someone could take the time to do a good install video. Maybe at some point someone will do that. One with all the gotchas and with good lighting which is necessary and details as well.

One other thing is that we could not have done it without removing the drive shaft. When I spoke to Transfer Flo they told me that they do not remove the driveshaft for liability reasons but of course they have a lift that they put it on but even then I would say it would be pretty difficult to do this mod without removing the drive shaft. The guy I spoke with at TF said he would recommend removing the drive shaft and we did. As you will see in the video it is pretty close to the tank. The tank fits like a glove and clears all important things but not with a lot of room to spare. All of their (TF) notes are excellent but again there are tips to add which I would say from our experience are pretty important.

As a side note I got an email from the manual company that the USB stick with the service manual was back in stock and I purchased it. It arrived on this past Saturday. I would have loved to have had this to look at some things like removing the drive shaft since there is some good info in it.

All in all again I like it very much and I would do it again.

Robpm

P.S. this was an after edit to this post. I decided you all might like to see the numbers and gauges on the truck for when I finished the trip down to below York PA and back. It shows almost 400 miles. What is interesting is that you can see the MTE and the Average MPG. How the computer works to get the AVG MPG to work so well I am not sure. and show the gas gauge accurately and yet show the MTE calculation to be so bad is beyond me.


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Great information as I have my tank sitting in its crate ready to be installed soon.
 
Robpm said:
Yes NJ will not allow anyone to sell ethanol free gas unless you are working with racing cars and I have noticed that mariners seem to be able to sell it. The price from those places was over $20/gallon and the place in NY was $4.15/gallon. NJ is not too friendly to those who are of a non green or non blue persuasion!
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Why folks live under that kind of regime is beyond me...they have ethonal free at the pumps next to my house...got gas for the mowers Sat...3.08 for non ethonal, regular is 2.76...
 
We can get premium non-e at most Mavericks and some small ma and pa stations around here, but thanks to the wet side of the State, gas taxes are ridiculous. I can drive 10 miles east into Idaho and usually save 60 cents a gallon.
 
Bowdiddly said:
Great information as I have my tank sitting in its crate ready to be installed soon.
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I will try to post everything up ASAP and hopefully you will be able to benefit from it. Also if you wanted to talk over the phone I would be happy to do so if you would find that helpful. I'm not an expert by any means but I have experienced it once now and I know how I would do things a little better if I were to do it again.
 
Sccritterkiller said:
Use CC and stay under 60 and you can get 17-18mpg..man it would suck to drive that far for non ethanol gas.
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Confirmed, my 22 with 3.55 rear end gets that on the 10 between Phoenix and Palm Springs - my bladder would burst far sooner than me dte though.
 
Optimus🤖 said:
Congratulations and welcome to the $175 fill up club! 🤪
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It's down to $120 here in Texas now, but for a few weeks I had to deal with the pump cutting off at $150 and then having to do a second transaction for $5 - $10 more
 
I know others have reported this issue in the past, but has anyone solved the “service engine ~ vehicle emission system warning” after the install of their new TF 58 gallon tank? I’m still periodically getting the warning but not constant and goes away after a while.
 
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