2023 MY Super Duty Order/Schedule/Build dates from Ford...

Hey all, submitted a custom F250 order in late October with a request to add BAP once Job 2 order bank opened. My original build sheet showed priority 19. After Job 2 order bank opened Dealer modified the order to add BAP, but I see the priority is now 99. They mentioned they can't update it till there is an "allocation". Will this need to wait until May for new allocations?

The original order was accepted by ford already & I did put down a deposit back in October. I struggle to understand how an accepted order must wait for an allocation?

Note: It's a Lariat Ultimate package
 
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Hey all, submitted a custom F250 order in late October with a request to add BAP once Job 2 order bank opened. My original build sheet showed priority 19. After Job 2 order bank opened Dealer modified the order to add BAP, but I see the priority is now 99. They mentioned they can't update it till there is an "allocation". Will this need to wait until May for new allocations?

The original order was accepted by ford already & I did put down a deposit back in October. I struggle to understand how an accepted order must wait for an allocation?

Note: It's a Lariat Ultimate package
Sounds like your dealer is playing games. They can put in as many orders as they want. But depending on how many allocations they get, that will determine how many trucks Ford will build for them. All orders should be lower than 99 now that the Job 2 options are all available.
 
Without an allocation all you have is an order built in the system. Allocations are the method by which Ford (and other vehicle manufactures) tell a dealership how many orders they are able to place for production (assuming the order gets scheduled). This late in the model year, given the backlog Ford has with Super Duty, its possible or likely that your dealer may not see any additional allocations through 2023 (in which case your order will never get built). You may want to shop around for another dealer who has an uncommitted allocation to enhance the possibility you will get a 2023 truck.
 
Without an allocation all you have is an order built in the system. Allocations are the method by which Ford (and other vehicle manufactures) tell a dealership how many orders they are able to place for production (assuming the order gets scheduled). This late in the model year, given the backlog Ford has with Super Duty, its possible or likely that your dealer may not see any additional allocations through 2023 (in which case your order will never get built). You may want to shop around for another dealer who has an uncommitted allocation to enhance the possibility you will get a 2023 truck.


Thank you. What confuses me is the order is confirmed, accepted by ford with the below note. I've removed all the ID's and order detail but seems like it's been accepted.

From: Program Headquarters

Date: 2/23/2023 5:11:20 PM

Thank you for submitting the order within the Customer Order Verification Program. The order has been received and verified by Program Headquarters and will be scheduled for production with Ford Motor Co when possible. Below is your authorization number to be claimed at time of delivery. Thank you again for participating in the Customer Order Verification Program.

Order Verification Status: APPROVED
 
Thank you. What confuses me is the order is confirmed, accepted by ford with the below note. I've removed all the ID's and order detail but seems like it's been accepted.

From: Program Headquarters

Date: 2/23/2023 5:11:20 PM

Thank you for submitting the order within the Customer Order Verification Program. The order has been received and verified by Program Headquarters and will be scheduled for production with Ford Motor Co when possible. Below is your authorization number to be claimed at time of delivery. Thank you again for participating in the Customer Order Verification Program.

Order Verification Status: APPROVED
That is completely opposite of what my dealer said and what I have read on here. I placed my order on 10/28/22. I wanted the BAP and it was entered as a 99. Now that Job2 is open now I will have a new priority code. Unfortunately I haven’t had time to chat with my dealer about what that is.
 
Thank you. What confuses me is the order is confirmed, accepted by ford with the below note. I've removed all the ID's and order detail but seems like it's been accepted.

From: Program Headquarters

Date: 2/23/2023 5:11:20 PM

Thank you for submitting the order within the Customer Order Verification Program. The order has been received and verified by Program Headquarters and will be scheduled for production with Ford Motor Co when possible. Below is your authorization number to be claimed at time of delivery. Thank you again for participating in the Customer Order Verification Program.

Order Verification Status: APPROVED
Don't confuse allocation with anything else in the order process. Ask your dealer how many orders they have, what is there allocation, and when they expect an allocation to be available.

If there is no allocation available at that dealership your truck is not getting build. Look up Granger on here. They do a great job of being up front about their allocations available and explaining how it works and how the process has changed. (There is ways that a dealership can pick up extra allocations but I'm not sure what the current ways to do it are. You do not control those opportunities.)

I have two identical October orders in for my '23 at two different dealerships. The order at the dealership closest to me told me they had 216 total Super Duty allocations for '23's and would not deal below MSRP as they could sell everyone of their allocations. While they were completing the paperwork I called around to other dealers I had worked with and was told by another that I would be their third '23 Super Duty order if I ordered right away. I did and that truck is built and in transit. I have heard nothing on the close dealership. I have accepted order e-mails from Ford on both trucks.
 
Thank you. What confuses me is the order is confirmed, accepted by ford with the below note. I've removed all the ID's and order detail but seems like it's been accepted.

From: Program Headquarters

Date: 2/23/2023 5:11:20 PM

Thank you for submitting the order within the Customer Order Verification Program. The order has been received and verified by Program Headquarters and will be scheduled for production with Ford Motor Co when possible. Below is your authorization number to be claimed at time of delivery. Thank you again for participating in the Customer Order Verification Program.

Order Verification Status: APPROVED
Each dealer is given a total allocation for the production year. Allocation is in part based on the dealer's sales history so a higher volume dealer will have larger allocation than a lower volume dealer. For example, if the production run is 10 months and the dealer has an allocation of 100, they will likely get 10 trucks built per month, typically 5 scheduled every other week.

A dealer may take / place as may orders as they wish. The reason for this is some orders might cancel, others may have items that are constraints that may cause it to not be picked up by the factory / scheduled.

The priority code is how Ford picks up orders from that dealer to schedule. Priority codes for orders that can be scheduled are going to be 10 up to 19. A lower number means a higher priority for that dealership (aka where you are in line). Orders with the same priority are generally picked up by date order placed (oldest goes first). Dealers can manually tell Ford which orders to schedule, bypassing auto scheduling based on priority code and date.

A priority code of 99 indicates an order that the dealer does not want scheduled. This made sense when people placed orders that wanted Job 2 options as you didn't want the order scheduled before those options could be added (since they can't be changed once a Vin is issued).

In my allocation example above, a dealer may not use all of their allocation if the orders they have include constraint items. This is why they will take more orders than their allocation.

One final note... the dealer allocation includes stock orders in addition to customer orders, so they might prioritize getting trucks for the lot (especially likely at those dealers that markup over msrp).
 
Once you get a VIN you can go on Ford’s website and get full list of picked options and see pictures rendering with options. Also stages and updates.
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So a new wrinkle on my Tremor that has shown "Built" since 26 Mar
.....today it shows "Order Confirmed" with all the dates, but only Order Confirmed is green lit. Any of you 22 or prior gents experience this and have a clue what's to culprit?
 
So a new wrinkle on my Tremor that has shown "Built" since 26 Mar
.....today it shows "Order Confirmed" with all the dates, but only Order Confirmed is green lit. Any of you 22 or prior gents experience this and have a clue what's to culprit?
I would call Ford directly.
 
So a new wrinkle on my Tremor that has shown "Built" since 26 Mar
.....today it shows "Order Confirmed" with all the dates, but only Order Confirmed is green lit. Any of you 22 or prior gents experience this and have a clue what's to culprit?
Mine showed that way for two days after I picked it up! Their system is sooo messed up! I bet it shows up in transit in a day or two
 

Found this today. Interesting inside look at the Kentucky plant
 
side note, I passed the speedway on saturday, theres a lot of 23 trucks parked there.
I recall reading somewhere that about a month or so ago they reportedly had 30k trucks there. Wonder how long it will take to ship that many units.
 

Found this today. Interesting inside look at the Kentucky plant
Note, KTP info starts at about 5min in.

Negative points for the description... Unless there is a Joint Venture with Toyota I'm not aware of:

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Note, KTP info starts at about 5min in.

Negative points for the description... Unless there is a Joint Venture with Toyota I'm not aware of:

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Only Toyota joint venture I’m aware of is Mazda/Toyota in AL. Great people there.
 

Found this today. Interesting inside look at the Kentucky plant
Ford is the only American company still building trucks in America correct? Dodge is Mexico and GM is Canada?

Just thinking about that...so happy Ford is still building them here, and so sad nobody else is...well, I could almost cry.
 
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So I was at my dealer today to sign for fleet trucks that I ordered and checked on my 2023 order and got good news which was immediately followed by bad news. I ordered F350 Tremor in October when order banks opened but elected for job 2 as I wanted BAP. Recently my order was pushed through and changed from priority code 99 and my dealer hooked me up with new priority code 10. Today he said my build is scheduled for the week of 4/24 which was exciting to hear. Then the GOOD NEWS quickly turned to BAD NEWS!!! After a few moments he says it looks like ford dropped the BAP from my order. I confirmed with him when he changed the priority code from 99 to 10 that he had added the BAP to the order and he said he did. Now he tells me the system will not allow him to make any changes since build is scheduled.

He said he could place a new order, but that puts me at the back of the line when I originally ordered in October at the front of the line. If I stick with the truck I ordered then I don't get BAP which seems petty but when spending $90k on a truck I expect I should get what I want. If I wait for I want, I will expect to be a 2024 build and I no longer get locked into the price protection that I had when I ordered back in October, and I can see from his new order that he put together that some of the pricing has already gone up and makes the truck around $2K more than it was and thats not including the BAP which adds $4295. The winch alone is $995 more than when I ordered in October.

I called Ford customer service and they could pull up my order but could not see all details about the order because the VIN does not yet pull up a window sticker. He basically pointed me back to the dealer. So basically the dealer blames ford and ford blames the dealer and I am just stuck in the middle screwed either way with no course of action to correct somebodies dumb mistake.
 
So I was at my dealer today to sign for fleet trucks that I ordered and checked on my 2023 order and got good news which was immediately followed by bad news. I ordered F350 Tremor in October when order banks opened but elected for job 2 as I wanted BAP. Recently my order was pushed through and changed from priority code 99 and my dealer hooked me up with new priority code 10. Today he said my build is scheduled for the week of 4/24 which was exciting to hear. Then the GOOD NEWS quickly turned to BAD NEWS!!! After a few moments he says it looks like ford dropped the BAP from my order. I confirmed with him when he changed the priority code from 99 to 10 that he had added the BAP to the order and he said he did. Now he tells me the system will not allow him to make any changes since build is scheduled.

He said he could place a new order, but that puts me at the back of the line when I originally ordered in October at the front of the line. If I stick with the truck I ordered then I don't get BAP which seems petty but when spending $90k on a truck I expect I should get what I want. If I wait for I want, I will expect to be a 2024 build and I no longer get locked into the price protection that I had when I ordered back in October, and I can see from his new order that he put together that some of the pricing has already gone up and makes the truck around $2K more than it was and thats not including the BAP which adds $4295. The winch alone is $995 more than when I ordered in October.

I called Ford customer service and they could pull up my order but could not see all details about the order because the VIN does not yet pull up a window sticker. He basically pointed me back to the dealer. So basically the dealer blames ford and ford blames the dealer and I am just stuck in the middle screwed either way with no course of action to correct somebodies dumb mistake.
What all does the bap include? Can you just get an aftermarket shop to do it for 4k?
 
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