Diesel Fuel Recommendation + Additives?

[Explorerinil]

Everyone has their own assigned car, never over 200k. I had one car with 358,xxx engine run hours. Every 6 months or so I had the oil buildup sucked off the top of a couple pistons, it would run great for awhile then started running ruff and I knew it was time. That car ran pretty much non stop it’s entire life. We run the cars into the ground. We only transfer radios, laptop and camera system. Rest gets scrapped and the new vehicle gets equipped with new equipment, then the cycle starts over. Honestly these new vehicles are very well built and last, Ford explorers are pretty darn tuff.

I correct myself it was 358xx run hours, can’t recall th3 last numbers. I talked to a tech at ford and he was very surprised. Ford builds good vehicles, they last and run well if you follow their maintenance schedule.

 

[MTmudrunner]

I correct myself it was 358xx run hours, can’t recall th3 last numbers. I talked to a tech at ford and he was very surprised. Ford builds good vehicles, they last and run well if you follow their maintenance schedule.

I didn't want to question 358k, 36k makes sense, on all our trucks and equipment I go by hours not miles.

 

[MTelkman]

I have a 2001 7.3l PowerStroke I purchased new. I have used Optilube for many years and while I have seen NO improvement in mpg that I can measure, I can tell you there is a major difference in the smoothness and sound of that old 7.3l when using the Optilube. It still runs like a champ and I am convinced that the added lubricity of additives works on that motor.

On my new 22 6.7l I will continue to use an additive simply because I hope it provides some extra lubricity to the CP4. I may give HotShots a try or I may stick with Optilube.

on the '22 I will run an in-bed fuel tank that holds an extra 50 gallons. I am installing a water seperator/filter inline between the bed tank and the stock tank. I am hoping the combination of the extra filter, the additive, and frequent changes of the factory filters will keep the CP4 in good shape. I guess only time will tell.

 

[Tx-Tremor6.7]

I have a 2001 7.3l PowerStroke I purchased new. I have used Optilube for many years and while I have seen NO improvement in mpg that I can measure, I can tell you there is a major difference in the smoothness and sound of that old 7.3l when using the Optilube. It still runs like a champ and I am convinced that the added lubricity of additives works on that motor.

On my new 22 6.7l I will continue to use an additive simply because I hope it provides some extra lubricity to the CP4. I may give HotShots a try or I may stick with Optilube.

on the '22 I will run an in-bed fuel tank that holds an extra 50 gallons. I am installing a water seperator/filter inline between the bed tank and the stock tank. I am hoping the combination of the extra filter, the additive, and frequent changes of the factory filters will keep the CP4 in good shape. I guess only time will tell.

Who’s 50 gal in-bed auxiliary tank are you installing? I just added the TransferFlow 50 gallon tank to mine, but have not decided on what additives to use.

 

[pkrexer]

I mix Hotshot EDT with 1 oz of their LX4 lubricity extreme on every fill up.

Cheap insurance

 

[MTelkman]

Who’s 50 gal in-bed auxiliary tank are you installing? I just added the TransferFlow 50 gallon tank to mine, but have not decided on what additives to use.

I have a rds truck box fuel tank. It was in my 2001 Superduty but I am moving it to the 2022. I tow a 5th wheel around the country and the extra range is nice to have.

 

[CADUCKHUNTER]

I mix Hotshot EDT with 1 oz of their LX4 lubricity extreme on every fill up.

Cheap insurance

I am doing the same but still looking for something better if there is . This looks interesting

LORENZO'S OIL - DIESEL FUEL ENHANCEMENT​

but I don’t have any experience with it

 

[DwnSth]

I am doing the same but still looking for something better if there is . This looks interesting

LORENZO'S OIL - DIESEL FUEL ENHANCEMENT​

but I don’t have any experience with it

Archoil lubricants

 

[pbtjrlmrt]

I keep my trucks for a long time. Traded a 2005 PS for my Tremor. From my chair, OEMs have to find the sweet spot to balance risk and reward. They assume most folks are going to trade their vehicles at some average time of ownership as determined by the marketing folks. To be competitive and have bragging rights, they have to cut the cost to build and to own as low as possible. That's the vehicle they build. Stay within that window, averages are with you. There is always going to be a part built by humans that fail in that time. To keep owner maintenance cost as low as possible, they stretch out time between required maintenance as much as possible and still stay in the sweet spot. It would cost more to build a truck out of the factory that could keep the maintenance schedule and still go decades and hundreds of thousand miles for those of us that do that. Imagine if an OEM advertised you have to use a fuel or oil additive, etc. which as has been pointed out lightens your wallet. Probably not a good advertising scenario. So I choose to use third party additives and upgrades to avoid out of warranty issues a decade from now or at least minimize wear as much as possible because with the right care and feeding these trucks can go a very long time. I don't use Fram but the Fram oil man still said it best, pay me now or pay me later. If I was one that sold my truck every 3 -5 years or 36K/100K, which is where Ford has the sweet spot based on warranty, I would probably forgo the extras. My opinion which like a$$h@@ls everyone has one.

But I love this Forum!!!

Incorrect assumptions leading to incorrect conclusions. Preying on conspiracy theories will get you nowhere. The thing about conspiracies is that there is always a grain of truth. THe other problem is confirmation bias leading you down a road you want to be on or have pre determined to be correct. Instead of delving into the manufacturer consipiracy try thinking bigger. THink about all the competition in the motor oil business. Don't you think if there was a competitive advantage by including some magic molecule in the oil they would certainly do it? THe fact that no oil manufacurer is including any of these additives should tell you something. The oil system in a Diesel engine is a science experiment, heat, chemicals, friction, pressure, DPF and emissions systems and many other factors all come into play that are not replicated by two pieces of metal rubbing on each other in a pr stunt. THere is also a reason you will struggle to find a proper comparative oil analysis report that includes any of these additives. Facts and data should be driving our decisions not confirmation biases, marketing and conspiracy theories.

 

[Colfaxent]

Incorrect assumptions leading to incorrect conclusions. Preying on conspiracy theories will get you nowhere. The thing about conspiracies is that there is always a grain of truth. THe other problem is confirmation bias leading you down a road you want to be on or have pre determined to be correct. Instead of delving into the manufacturer consipiracy try thinking bigger. THink about all the competition in the motor oil business. Don't you think if there was a competitive advantage by including some magic molecule in the oil they would certainly do it? THe fact that no oil manufacurer is including any of these additives should tell you something. The oil system in a Diesel engine is a science experiment, heat, chemicals, friction, pressure, DPF and emissions systems and many other factors all come into play that are not replicated by two pieces of metal rubbing on each other in a pr stunt. THere is also a reason you will struggle to find a proper comparative oil analysis report that includes any of these additives. Facts and data should be driving our decisions not confirmation biases, marketing and conspiracy theories.

Very accurate statement. The reason a lot of manufacturers don't recommend additives is that they don't have the ability to test and do the r&d on all of them to make a recommendation. But contrary to this GM is recommending the use of BG products in their gas vehicles to clean fuel systems and carbon. BG is is stocked on the shelves in the parts dept with a GM P.N. added.

 

[JTredway]

I would be curious to see what would come about the Spicer study if it was redone today 17 years later.

I still run optilube, even with the DCR, gives me peace of mind after years and seeing improvements in the 6.0 plus the antigel, anti algae, and lubricity never hurt anything and I used it religiously with the HEUI system before and after I upgraded injectors.

 

[StrokinOut]

Incorrect assumptions leading to incorrect conclusions. Preying on conspiracy theories will get you nowhere. The thing about conspiracies is that there is always a grain of truth. THe other problem is confirmation bias leading you down a road you want to be on or have pre determined to be correct. Instead of delving into the manufacturer consipiracy try thinking bigger. THink about all the competition in the motor oil business. Don't you think if there was a competitive advantage by including some magic molecule in the oil they would certainly do it? THe fact that no oil manufacurer is including any of these additives should tell you something. The oil system in a Diesel engine is a science experiment, heat, chemicals, friction, pressure, DPF and emissions systems and many other factors all come into play that are not replicated by two pieces of metal rubbing on each other in a pr stunt. THere is also a reason you will struggle to find a proper comparative oil analysis report that includes any of these additives. Facts and data should be driving our decisions not confirmation biases, marketing and conspiracy theories.

And here I thought we were talking about fuel additives.

 

[RM_Tremor]

I'm not going to say if you do or don't need an additive but here is what I do know....I blend gasoline and diesel for a living and we always blend to the minimum lubricity spec. I don't have a diesel, but if I did I would add a lubricity additive to help the CP4 live. A little extra cetane wouldn't be a terrible idea.