Tremor Payload??

Turnem · Dec 28, 2023

2020Tremor said:
Right in line with my 2020 F350 7.3L Lariat Sport(now BAP) at 3826 listed payload. The 6.7Ls in the 2020-22 saw lower listed payloads around 500LBs ish depending on options for F350s.

This is right on! My 2020 F-350 Platinum Tremor with 6.7 is at 3383 lbs.

aclosedmind · Dec 28, 2023

Supercup said:
So it is a F-250 correct?

Yep

xler8r · Dec 28, 2023

@MarcelM that would make sense then with the 1k increase on sticker for 350 vs 250

TRAMPER · Dec 28, 2023

My 2023 XLT Premium 7.3L dual batteries dual alternators.

Anyone got a higher payload than this?

This is my truck loaded up with camping gear an absolutely full gas tank and two people.

And this is it scaled with my Camper/ Two people camping gear and again a completely full gas tank.

So fully loaded I still have over 1800lbs of payload for towing or whatever.

TheManderson · Dec 28, 2023

2024 F350 6.7L HO Lariat Ultimate SAP Tremor with factory winch, pro power onboard, and panoramic moonroof. GVWR is 12,000lbs

Supercup · Dec 28, 2023

TheManderson said:
2024 F350 6.7L HO Lariat Ultimate SAP Tremor with factory winch, pro power onboard, and panoramic moonroof. GVWR is 12,000lbs

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This is very similar to my 2022 Tremor - and my payload is 614 lbs. less! Mine is 11,500 GVWR - I don't believe 12k was an option in 2022. My WS is below with all options.

TheManderson · Dec 28, 2023

Supercup said:
This is very similar to my 2022 Tremor - and my payload is 614 lbs. less! Mine is 11,500 GVWR - I don't believe 12k was an option in 2022. My WS is below with all options.

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Yeah, I think they bumped the max GVWRs to 11,000 for F250 and 12,000 for F350 Tremors in 2023

TRAMPER · Dec 28, 2023

TheManderson said:
Yeah, I think they bumped the max GVWRs to 11,000 for F250 and 12,000 for F350 Tremors in 2023

My 2023 7.3L GVWR is 11,499 (just under the limit for a lot of extra headaches in states like California). The Diesel got pushed to 12k.

Biggus Dickus · Dec 28, 2023

For reference, 23 F350 7.3 Lariat BAP Tremor GVWR 11,499 - Payload 4223lbs

TRAMPER · Dec 28, 2023

Biggus Dickus said:
For reference, 23 F350 7.3 Lariat BAP Tremor GVWR 11,499 - Payload 4223lbs View attachment 138778

wow, got me by 9lbs, that’s the highest I’ve ever seen.

Interesting it’s on a Lariat too, mines an XLT but does have dual batteries/ alternators. I would have thought all Lariats would have been a little heavier.

You definitely deserve your screen name.

Biggus Dickus · Dec 29, 2023

TRAMPER said:
wow, got me by 9lbs, that’s the highest I’ve ever seen.

Interesting it’s on a Lariat too, mines an XLT but does have dual batteries/ alternators. I would have thought all Lariats would have been a little heavier.

You definitely deserve your screen name.
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Love the Graphics!

Philly · Dec 30, 2023

Not a tremor, but a ‘24 Lariat ultimate cclb with sunroof.

Martineztremor350 · Dec 30, 2023

I'm wrapping my head around this stuff but my new truck is probably 5 months out. In California, I probably need a CDL, which I don't currently have. I'll do it, but was hoping I didn't have to.

I ordered an F350 HO Tremor 6.7 lariat. GCWR is above this it would appear even if I switched to a 250.

A single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more.
A combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more.
A vehicle designed, used, or maintained for carrying more than ten passengers (including the driver).
A vehicle towing another vehicle or trailer with a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more

Let me know if I'm reading this right. The GVWR is probably too high regardless with the Diesel...

Philly · Dec 30, 2023

Martineztremor350 said:
I'm wrapping my head around this stuff but my new truck is probably 5 months out. In California, I probably need a CDL, which I don't currently have. I'll do it, but was hoping I didn't have to.

I ordered an F350 HO Tremor 6.7 lariat. GCWR is above this it would appear even if I switched to a 250.

A single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more.

A combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more.

A vehicle designed, used, or maintained for carrying more than ten passengers (including the driver).

A vehicle towing another vehicle or trailer with a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more

Let me know if I'm reading this right. The GVWR is probably too high regardless with the Diesel...

Idk about California but here in Iowa, and all of the Midwest, and pretty sure everywhere, no CDL is needed for your 4 bullet points unless you are doing it commercially. As in, if you are getting paid to do it, or “for hire”. Those bulletpoints are the same for all of the United States. I can tow my 14,000 camper anywhere I want and not need a CDL. If someone pays me to tow their 14,000# camper somewhere, then I would need to have a CDL, and a DOT number on the truck. Now of course, if I got pulled over by DOT I would just say I’m doing a buddy a favor. But if you are doing things like that all the time and/or using it for work, then yes you would need a CDL and you’d have to have a DOT number and register the truck for commercial use.

Farmers can drive a semi and grain trailer and haul their own grain without a CDL, because they’re using it privately and non-commercially and hauling their own stuff.

Martineztremor350 · Dec 30, 2023

Philly said:
Idk about California but here in Iowa, and all of the Midwest, and pretty sure everywhere, no CDL is needed for your 4 bullet points unless you are doing it commercially. As in, if you are getting paid to do it, or “for hire”. Those bulletpoints are the same for all of the United States. I can tow my 14,000 camper anywhere I want and not need a CDL. If someone pays me to tow their 14,000# camper somewhere, then I would need to have a CDL, and a DOT number on the truck. Now of course, if I got pulled over by DOT I would just say I’m doing a buddy a favor. But if you are doing things like that all the time and/or using it for work, then yes you would need a CDL and you’d have to have a DOT number and register the truck for commercial use.

Farmers can drive a semi and grain trailer and haul their own grain without a CDL, because they’re using it privately and non-commercially and hauling their own stuff.

I also under the impression if I don't tow more than 26k combined I should be fine? I am hoping someone in California can chime in that has a 23 or 24.

2020Tremor · Dec 30, 2023

Martineztremor350 said:
I also under the impression if I don't tow more than 26k combined I should be fine? I am hoping someone in California can chime in that has a 23 or 24.

Would be good if there was not the 10,001 gvwr trailer stipulation as well. See a lot of trailers with 99xx ratings because of that one,

Supercup · Dec 30, 2023

Martineztremor350 said:
I'm wrapping my head around this stuff but my new truck is probably 5 months out. In California, I probably need a CDL, which I don't currently have. I'll do it, but was hoping I didn't have to.

I ordered an F350 HO Tremor 6.7 lariat. GCWR is above this it would appear even if I switched to a 250.

A single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more.

A combination of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating (GCWR) of 26,001 pounds or more.

A vehicle designed, used, or maintained for carrying more than ten passengers (including the driver).

A vehicle towing another vehicle or trailer with a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more

Let me know if I'm reading this right. The GVWR is probably too high regardless with the Diesel...

In California if you are "not" towing for hire - so just your personal stuff, you can get an endorsement to your current class C license to tow over 10k as follows:

Per Calif. regs. - A driver must have a fifth-wheel recreational trailer endorsement added to his/her Class C driver license to pull a fifth-wheel recreational trailer over 10,000 lbs., but not over 15,000 lbs. GVWR, which is not used for hire.

After you need a "non" Commercial Class A in addition to your standard Class C, as I read the requirements. See link below to "recreational" requirements.

Summary of Requirements in CA link: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/handb...ndbook-2011/license-classes-and-requirements/

Martineztremor350 · Dec 30, 2023

Supercup said:
In California if you are "not" towing for hire - so just your personal stuff, you can get an endorsement to your current class C license to tow over 10k as follows:

Per Calif. regs. - A driver must have a fifth-wheel recreational trailer endorsement added to his/her Class C driver license to pull a fifth-wheel recreational trailer over 10,000 lbs., but not over 15,000 lbs. GVWR, which is not used for hire.

After you need a "non" Commercial Class A in addition to your standard Class C, as I read the requirements. See link below to "recreational" requirements.

Summary of Requirements in CA link: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/handb...ndbook-2011/license-classes-and-requirements/

This is great, thanks for the help!

Donnie With A Dee · Dec 30, 2023

Martineztremor350 said:
I also under the impression if I don't tow more than 26k combined I should be fine? I am hoping someone in California can chime in that has a 23 or 24.

Ok. As a former lifelong resident of California, with a CDL since 1995, I'll tell you this. If your trailer is over 10,000 lbs, you are required to have a CDL. I do not no if this rule applies to RV 5th wheel as I've never owned one so no need to look into it. This is why you'll see trailers that have GVWR of 9,999 or 9,990 to stay under the 10k, problem is that severely limits the payload of the trailer. There are people on this forum that will state that there are exceptions for agriculture. I do not know that to be true. It would be up to the interpretation of the judge. I personally know of a commercial CHP officer up near Red Bluff that would nail people up there all the time. Something tells me that he wouldn't be doing that if he was constantly getting beat in court.
With regards to the over 26k rule, that is federal law. CDL is required for GCWR over 26k. Again there may be exceptions for RV's that I'm not aware of. So for example if your truck is 12,500, just have a 14k trailer derated to 13,499 from the manufacturer and you get around the law. Just don't get hauling more than what it is rated for. It is what the equipment is rated for and not actual weight. So even if empty, you can't pull it if the GCWR is over 26k. Hope this helps.

TheManderson · Dec 31, 2023

Supercup said:
In California if you are "not" towing for hire - so just your personal stuff, you can get an endorsement to your current class C license to tow over 10k as follows:

Per Calif. regs. - A driver must have a fifth-wheel recreational trailer endorsement added to his/her Class C driver license to pull a fifth-wheel recreational trailer over 10,000 lbs., but not over 15,000 lbs. GVWR, which is not used for hire.

After you need a "non" Commercial Class A in addition to your standard Class C, as I read the requirements. See link below to "recreational" requirements.

Summary of Requirements in CA link: https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/handb...ndbook-2011/license-classes-and-requirements/

I didn't see anything in there about a fifth wheel endorsement. Looks like anyone with a Basic Class C can legally tow a fifth wheel up to 15,000lbs - over that, you need a non-commercial Class A