Do you use the Cat Scale App? Small world. My parents live in Wilton, exit 15. McGregor golf course.
CAN I PULL A 5TH WHEEL LUXURY TOY HAULER SAFELY WITH MY TREMOR. CAN I ALSO ADD MY CARLI PINTOP 2.5 KIT
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I don’t use the app. I’m kind of old fashioned. And yes it is a small world. Are they/you from my area or did they relocate here?
I am having a huge issue with this very topic. I love my Tremor, but am starting to think I need to get an F450+ for my RV plans. I have always known you can't get one vehicle that fits all the needs, and my F350 Tremor is an example of that. Checks every box, except total capacity.....
It's only money, and they are printing more every day. Guess I have something new to save for. I wonder if I got a toy hauler if I would look silly with my Tremor in it?
Ed
It's only money, and they are printing more every day. Guess I have something new to save for. I wonder if I got a toy hauler if I would look silly with my Tremor in it?
Ed
Agreed, when I took delivery of my Momentum 350G it was 2800 lbs on the hitch optioned with a generator. I think the advertised weight without one was 2600 lbs so they were pretty close.
Yes, ours came with a sheet specific to our build, which happened to be pretty close to the weight listed on their website (slightly higher due to 2nd A/C I assume).
However, all that changed the minute we started loading it with all our personal gear. Just trying to point out that hitch/pin weights on a manufacturer’s website are not what you can expect once you load it up. Hopefully someone has enough payload cushion that there won’t be an issue, but if anyone is crunching numbers based on their door jamb payload sticker then website hitch weights are not going to be accurate.
Is your Tremor the tow vehicle for your GD 350M?
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This thread is so informative with true responses. I freakin love this forum and all you awesome brothers to talk truthfully on any subjects. Green dudes like myself on certain subjects need true reviews and advice. I personally look at bad reviews first when checking out a product. Anyone can say they love something. I’m a true blue dude and live that most of you are too.
I really suck in my old age with having to add 2 O’s with my to’s. My apologies for my simplicity in not being better with my grammar. I was better back in the day. LOL.
Donny Details ??????????
I really suck in my old age with having to add 2 O’s with my to’s. My apologies for my simplicity in not being better with my grammar. I was better back in the day. LOL.
Donny Details ??????????
Now that I’d like to see!
We’d been talking about buying a camper for a long time now, finally bit the bullet and dove in this past fall. Probably bought everything in reverse order to most, but I was spooked about buying a pickup first to only find out it wasn’t what we “needed” after deciding on everything else. Bought a 4 seat Polaris General 1st, then a Grand Design 31MB fifth wheel, then the pickup!
Couldn’t convince my better half, but what I would have liked to have done is gone with a F550 chassis cab w/custom flatbed for the UTV, then gone with a bumper pull camper. No need to drag a trailer to pull the UTV in that setup. Guess I can always dream…
Totally agree - I’ve lurked on many forums before (wide variety), but have never joined any of them until this one. First thing I took notice of was the general vibe compared to most others I’ve seen - people trying to help each other out without all the BS.?
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BDog you the man ???????
+1 from me, too. I’ve joined a couple and kind of tried to be active, but the vibe didn’t really make me want to. Exact opposite story with this forum. ?
Yes it is
Buying at Lazy Days is a great experience! We picked up our travel trailer there back in January and have camped nearly 3 out of 4 weekends ever sense for free using the Thousand Trails membership they include in the sale.
The only warning that I have from our experience is that a new camper will have small issues that need to be worked out. Many dealerships, even Lazy Days with 200 or more service bays, can be difficult to get service appointments due to all of the new RVs on the road.
Bring tools and take your first few trips to places in the country with internet access so you can google any issues that you come across.
Right now we only have a Grand Design Transcend but we love it. You can tell Grand Designs puts thought into their campers. I can see us moving to a momentum and a dually in the future but for now we are loving our more simple camper and the Tremor. Unhooking and going exploring in the truck is great!
There a reason we see dually's towing 5th wheels. Yes, some of it is weight, but .. the biggest reason is Stability. Dually's have the ability to not only handle the Bed Weight, but also the Stability to handle Induced Sway. 5th Wheel Trailers don't have "Sway Control" devices like Travel Trailers do. The Longer your Trailer is, the more Sway can be induced. When you're towing a trailer, and you cross wind with an 18 wheeler, that cross wind force gets applied to your Trucks rear Tires. 15,000 lbs, 12' tall and 40' long. Thats Dually territory. The reason I bought the F450 was to tow our Mobile Suite, Full House LX455. They're 21-24,000 lbs all day. If ya wanna talk RV's or Toy Haulers .. I've been there, done that several times. The F450 is a Special kind of Truck ..
I live 30 minutes away from Lazy Daze. I've owned so many different Rv's over they years .. In a Nut-Shell, RV's are junk. $25,000 to a million. The Dealership will be Roses when you're buying one. BUT .. I promise you'll need their Service Department more times than you ever thought possible. I am not shitting you when I say I have friends that have been without their RV for over a Year because of understaffed, overworked Service Departments trying to repair shitty ass RV's. Please, look them up, investigate the brand of RV you want. More important, the dealership you're buying from. Know what you're buying. They're not all the same. Buy your RV from the closest Dealer you can work with, and as close to your home as possible. The best thing to do if you can is, take a few different RV Factory Tours. Pay attention to the details .. Water & Sewer Plumbing, Electrical, Roof Coverings, Wall and Slideout Construction, the Frame, Suspension, Brakes, Heating Ducts and A/C .. they can be living nightmares.
Donny, glad to see some real drive stirring up in you. You are embarking on the same dream we've been working on for several years now. We have the long term plan to get a truck, toy hauler, and eventually a side by side to explore the country in. We have relatives in the south and southwest that we plan to spend long winters visiting during our winter snow bird routes. We have the truck now and we are downsizing our home situation in preparation for getting the toy hauler.
I would strongly advise that you guys spend some time acquainting yourselves with the realities of extended RV living. I say this because we have been planning our retirement adventure for a few years and because of research and following the guidance of the more experienced folks living this lifestyle we've dramatically adjusted our requirements and plans.
One of the things we have realized is that the biggest mistake people make when jumping in too quickly is going too big from the start. Often folks try to make their rolling home like their stationary home and it quickly becomes a huge burden simply because of sheer size, but also because even with that size you still can't have all the amenities and space for stuff that you are used to living with. A big problem people often find is part of their dream is to explore widely including Federal parks, BLM land and other rugged destinations. Many locations have size restrictions that will eliminate larger rigs from staying and the more rugged destinations will just not be possible with the big rigs. Also the bigger your rig and the more stuff you have along the more you have to maintain and manage in general. Everything you have to maintain is harder when you are out on the road away from your home base. It's just logistically more difficult. The less you can learn to live with the less you have to take care of and manage on the road.
What we've learned is the most experienced tailor their choice of RV to their specific RV lifestyle plan. If rugged or remote camping is the plan, going smaller and lighter is critical. If spacious amenities is a must than you will spend more time at large RV resorts and places that are set up for parking big rigs. Most people end up getting a second and then a third RV after they realize they got the wrong setup for what they really enjoy and plan to do. Many jump in blindly and end up loosing their asses because of the tremendous depreciation that RVs are subject to. Many RVs will lose 20-40% of the original value the first year you own it. The RV market is extremely inflated right now so depreciation is at an all time high right now as well.
I would strongly advise spending a lot of time watching some of the really good full time RVing YouTube channels to get a better handle on what the two of you really plan on doing the majority of the time you are exploring. You need to make sure you are both on the same page before you make your decision. The two channels I recommend are sources of the best, most honest and candid advice you can get. These folks know what they are talking about and don't sugar coat what you will experience. Again the biggest mistake people make is getting a rig too big for what they want to do and too big for what they really need and it take the fun out of the dream
YouTube channels:
Keep Your Daydream: A couple that have raised their kids living semi full time out of RVs. Tremendous amount of experience with several different sizes of RVs and the most useful advice you will find on the topic. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEhJLsShZt8McryMf_DHLZQ
Long Long Honeymoon: An empty nest couple with a small dog that have lived on the road the majority of the last ten or more years. They focus a lot on the realities of RV life and how to keep it fun and enjoyable for both parties. They have lived in a smaller Airstream travel trailer and particularly keeping simple rather than big and complicated. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw5WYtMXQ799GErKpvR_5Rw
I can't stress enough that there's a lot to consider when making this decision if you want it to be fun and enjoyable for you and your wife. The majority of RVs get used a few times and than parked for months on end because the people didn't realize what they were getting into and that they had different goals when they jumped in. You mentioned that you have never pulled a large rig. I'm guessing your wife is the same and hasn't driven a large rig around the country? Keep in mind that she will need to be able to drive this rig too. It may not be often but she should be able to at least drive it safely and with some level of confidence when and if the need arises. The biggest stressor for rookies is maneuvering and parking the rig. The bigger it is the more stress when it comes to getting into and out of camp sites, RV parks etc. There's no quicker way to throw a damp rag on the adventure than having conflict every time you have to park or maneuver in and out of congested areas. Also some States have pretty restrictive regulations regarding larger rigs. I can't speak to all the details but it is something to know about if you plan to go big and possibly over weight.
I want you to move foreword with your dream buddy, but I want you to do it with eyes wide open. You will have a blast exploring the country together, but you will guarantee a higher level of success and joy together if you avoid the big mistakes that most of the rookies make up front. I hope this helps in some way. Good luck with your dream! ?
I would strongly advise that you guys spend some time acquainting yourselves with the realities of extended RV living. I say this because we have been planning our retirement adventure for a few years and because of research and following the guidance of the more experienced folks living this lifestyle we've dramatically adjusted our requirements and plans.
One of the things we have realized is that the biggest mistake people make when jumping in too quickly is going too big from the start. Often folks try to make their rolling home like their stationary home and it quickly becomes a huge burden simply because of sheer size, but also because even with that size you still can't have all the amenities and space for stuff that you are used to living with. A big problem people often find is part of their dream is to explore widely including Federal parks, BLM land and other rugged destinations. Many locations have size restrictions that will eliminate larger rigs from staying and the more rugged destinations will just not be possible with the big rigs. Also the bigger your rig and the more stuff you have along the more you have to maintain and manage in general. Everything you have to maintain is harder when you are out on the road away from your home base. It's just logistically more difficult. The less you can learn to live with the less you have to take care of and manage on the road.
What we've learned is the most experienced tailor their choice of RV to their specific RV lifestyle plan. If rugged or remote camping is the plan, going smaller and lighter is critical. If spacious amenities is a must than you will spend more time at large RV resorts and places that are set up for parking big rigs. Most people end up getting a second and then a third RV after they realize they got the wrong setup for what they really enjoy and plan to do. Many jump in blindly and end up loosing their asses because of the tremendous depreciation that RVs are subject to. Many RVs will lose 20-40% of the original value the first year you own it. The RV market is extremely inflated right now so depreciation is at an all time high right now as well.
I would strongly advise spending a lot of time watching some of the really good full time RVing YouTube channels to get a better handle on what the two of you really plan on doing the majority of the time you are exploring. You need to make sure you are both on the same page before you make your decision. The two channels I recommend are sources of the best, most honest and candid advice you can get. These folks know what they are talking about and don't sugar coat what you will experience. Again the biggest mistake people make is getting a rig too big for what they want to do and too big for what they really need and it take the fun out of the dream
YouTube channels:
Keep Your Daydream: A couple that have raised their kids living semi full time out of RVs. Tremendous amount of experience with several different sizes of RVs and the most useful advice you will find on the topic. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEhJLsShZt8McryMf_DHLZQ
Long Long Honeymoon: An empty nest couple with a small dog that have lived on the road the majority of the last ten or more years. They focus a lot on the realities of RV life and how to keep it fun and enjoyable for both parties. They have lived in a smaller Airstream travel trailer and particularly keeping simple rather than big and complicated. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCw5WYtMXQ799GErKpvR_5Rw
I can't stress enough that there's a lot to consider when making this decision if you want it to be fun and enjoyable for you and your wife. The majority of RVs get used a few times and than parked for months on end because the people didn't realize what they were getting into and that they had different goals when they jumped in. You mentioned that you have never pulled a large rig. I'm guessing your wife is the same and hasn't driven a large rig around the country? Keep in mind that she will need to be able to drive this rig too. It may not be often but she should be able to at least drive it safely and with some level of confidence when and if the need arises. The biggest stressor for rookies is maneuvering and parking the rig. The bigger it is the more stress when it comes to getting into and out of camp sites, RV parks etc. There's no quicker way to throw a damp rag on the adventure than having conflict every time you have to park or maneuver in and out of congested areas. Also some States have pretty restrictive regulations regarding larger rigs. I can't speak to all the details but it is something to know about if you plan to go big and possibly over weight.
I want you to move foreword with your dream buddy, but I want you to do it with eyes wide open. You will have a blast exploring the country together, but you will guarantee a higher level of success and joy together if you avoid the big mistakes that most of the rookies make up front. I hope this helps in some way. Good luck with your dream! ?
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Don, follow stufarmer's advice. He's talking straight up. Research is critical, mostly so you know what you are getting into. If you think the Super Duties and Ford dealerships have their issues, wait till you get an RV. It's a whole new level bait and switch and quality and customer service issues. You can have a blast but only if you don't make the big mistakes.
Your dealer will insist that you have plenty of truck for any RV. He's lying to your face and doesn't care. He'll make it sound like they are there for you 24/7. Again he's lying to you. He'll talk up the quality of the brands they sell. Again you know what's going on right there. Lastly, keep in mind you are exposing a rolling home to an earth quake every time you pull it. Things will break and you will have to get them fixed on the road. It's quite the adventure to say the least. You'll either get good at "adapt and improvise" while having fun or it just won't be fun. Eyes wide open.
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Hah !
I didn't want to say it but you did and it's fact.
We're on our 4th new trailer and each one required me to roll up my sleeves and become a carpenter, electrician, HVAC, plumber and a rodent eviction specialist. Lol
On our 2020 trailer I've already replaced the sail switch in the furnace, replaced the microwave, reinstalled trim that bowed from being cut to long, adjusted one of the slides and rear axle was out of alignment. Lol
Look how many times I would have had to take the trailer 3 hrs away to have it serviced.
Enjoy your trailers but just know......ain't none of them built like tanks.
Bingo. I wouldn’t dare tow anything bigger then my 350m without going dually to be honest. And if I towed my rig more then the 1/2 dozen times a year or so and for longer trips. Most my trips are within an hour of home.
speed is also a biggie. I’m not a big speeder to begin with, but when towing I definitely take it easy
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