Transmission Fluid Change

Thanks Mike, again.

That fill port is no longer. I doubt it's on my '25, too. I'll have to go look, but, either way, with the PPE pan's fill port/pipe at least I don't have to fill and check and fill again and check and fill again... right next to a 500* catalyst. That alone is a major win.

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Bumping up the thread for those considering an early schedule transmission fluid drain and fill.

I had planned on doing mine around 40-50K but just didn't get around to it till today at 57K. I decided to do the axles and transfer case as well. Like many of you I've almost always done my own routine maintenance, but getting older and especially not wanting to do this in the driveway in freezing temps, I decided to go the service center route.

I got a quote from my local Ford dealer the other day which came in at $1400 total. :cautious: Decided to check with a local family owned NAPA service center, Moore's Auto Service, for their rates. This is a family that's been in business for over 35 years at the same location and have a 4.9 out of 5 satisfaction rating on line with over 100 reviews. Thought what the heck I'll see what they say. The guy estimated $500 using NAPA parts. I told him I preferred Motorcraft and he was fine with that but didn't have a material cost, so said that would be a variable.

Well at an estimate that looked to be at least half the Ford price I decided to go with it. I scheduled and reminded him of the specific fluid needs for all systems and he had no problems.

The truck was serviced today and I got a call by 3pm that it was ready to pick up. When I got there he had a box in the lobby with the parts removed and empty jugs showing the fluids used and a white pan with some of the trans fluid and the tiny amount of residue found in the trans pan. No significant amount of metal particles and the fluid was reddish brown with no burnt smell.

The cost was totaled at $716 with Ford OEM parts making up $460 of that total. They only charged $223 for labor and that really surprised me. The truck was clean and no signs of any leaks. Honestly the experience with them was better than I've had with any Ford service center for a very long time. I will likely use them more often from now on for routine work.

I drove the truck for about 15 miles to run it through it's paces and everything felt great. Honestly for the price and convenience I think it was well worth paying the modest price for their labor and a job well done, and no mess in my driveway. And I feel a whole lot better now knowing the transmission appears to be in good shape and is running with a new filter and fresh batch of fluid. Oh and when I asked they said they would not charge any extra to install an aftermarket pan if I provided it with the next service interval. I think I'll buy the 7.3 PPE pan sometime soon and hold it for the next go round. 🍻😁
 
Bumping up the thread for those considering an early schedule transmission fluid drain and fill.

I had planned on doing mine around 40-50K but just didn't get around to it till today at 57K. I decided to do the axles and transfer case as well. Like many of you I've almost always done my own routine maintenance, but getting older and especially not wanting to do this in the driveway in freezing temps, I decided to go the service center route.

I got a quote from my local Ford dealer the other day which came in at $1400 total. :cautious: Decided to check with a local family owned NAPA service center, Moore's Auto Service, for their rates. This is a family that's been in business for over 35 years at the same location and have a 4.9 out of 5 satisfaction rating on line with over 100 reviews. Thought what the heck I'll see what they say. The guy estimated $500 using NAPA parts. I told him I preferred Motorcraft and he was fine with that but didn't have a material cost, so said that would be a variable.

Well at an estimate that looked to be at least half the Ford price I decided to go with it. I scheduled and reminded him of the specific fluid needs for all systems and he had no problems.

The truck was serviced today and I got a call by 3pm that it was ready to pick up. When I got there he had a box in the lobby with the parts removed and empty jugs showing the fluids used and a white pan with some of the trans fluid and the tiny amount of residue found in the trans pan. No significant amount of metal particles and the fluid was reddish brown with no burnt smell.

The cost was totaled at $716 with Ford OEM parts making up $460 of that total. They only charged $223 for labor and that really surprised me. The truck was clean and no signs of any leaks. Honestly the experience with them was better than I've had with any Ford service center for a very long time. I will likely use them more often from now on for routine work.

I drove the truck for about 15 miles to run it through it's paces and everything felt great. Honestly for the price and convenience I think it was well worth paying the modest price for their labor and a job well done, and no mess in my driveway. And I feel a whole lot better now knowing the transmission appears to be in good shape and is running with a new filter and fresh batch of fluid. Oh and when I asked they said they would not charge any extra to install an aftermarket pan if I provided it with the next service interval. I think I'll buy the 7.3 PPE pan sometime soon and hold it for the next go round. 🍻😁
Nothing quite looking doing ones own maintenance. But alas, living within an HOA and not having adequate work space or storage for the amount of fluids this beast holds, I have the dealership do these things (booo).
 
Almost 43000 miles on my 22 F350 6.7, majority of the miles are pulling 7000+lbs travel trailer. Think I will have my transmission fluid and filter changed. Reading through all the posts, got a couple of questions. Dropping the pan, replacing the filter would not remove all of the old oil. Question, would this be acceptable maintenance, opposed to flushing the system and replacing all of the fluid? Second question, if I only replaced the fluid from removing the pan and filter, how much new fluid would be required to refill the transmission? Many thanks in advance.
 
if I only replaced the fluid from removing the pan and filter, how much new fluid would be required to refill the transmission?


If you left the truck's trans bottom open for a time, more would drip out/drain away.

The only way to accurately measure the quantity you seek is to when you drain the existing fluid, try to capture all of it then measure it using empty gallon containers.

Off the top of my head since I've never done the 10R140, I'd say you'd want anywhere from 6 to 10 quarts for your particular question's scenario.
 
I have seen the following YouTube video (go to about the 20 min mark) where you button everything up and remove the lines to the transmission cooler and eject a couple gallons of dirty fluid before shutting everything down, reconnecting the lines and doing a final fill. That's going to be the easiest way to change out what gets stuck in the torque converter.

 
Almost 43000 miles on my 22 F350 6.7, majority of the miles are pulling 7000+lbs travel trailer. Think I will have my transmission fluid and filter changed. Reading through all the posts, got a couple of questions. Dropping the pan, replacing the filter would not remove all of the old oil. Question, would this be acceptable maintenance, opposed to flushing the system and replacing all of the fluid? Second question, if I only replaced the fluid from removing the pan and filter, how much new fluid would be required to refill the transmission? Many thanks in advance.
At 43k, yes. Get as much as you can, but the “dilution solution” is fine with that few miles. Do a drain n fill at 80k then a drain and filter at 120.
That cycle came from a master diesel tech at Ford. I asked the same question you did with my old truck. I haul 13k and he recommended 40k with a filter every other time.
 
I just replaced tranny fluid last month at 70k miles. The used fluid was dark and filter had some gray stuff in it. It was a drain and refill it took 8 or 9 motorcraft quarts. The tranny feels smooth I should’ve replaced it at 40k. The mechanic also did a computer relearn after he was done I’m not if I’m using the correct words.
 
At 43k, yes. Get as much as you can, but the “dilution solution” is fine with that few miles. Do a drain n fill at 80k then a drain and filter at 120.
That cycle came from a master diesel tech at Ford. I asked the same question you did with my old truck. I haul 13k and he recommended 40k with a filter every other time.
This ☝🏻!
 
FWIW- installed a PPE pan a couple weeks ago and after watching a "YT certification" video, was so happy to find the same fill plug on the passenger side of my 10r140.

You can view the fill plug at 54m16s.

It's the exact same 19mm that's on my 2011 F150 6r80.

 
...after a minimum of 3 vids, I consider myself "certified"!!!
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