NOTICE FROM FORD

[Optimus🤖]

I don't know why they call it a recall when we don't even get the first call. So silly.

 

[AppStateDDS]

I received this letter too. And I have 2 or 3 other “recall” letters as well, sitting in the console of the truck. Haven’t taken the truck in EVER for service at the dealer. I do all of that myself. That said, a good friend is a Ford diesel mechanic, and when I need something even if it’s a recall, I’ll let him do the work (albeit at his dealer).

 

[HeavyAssault]

I don't know why they call it a recall when we don't even get the first call. So silly.

It's not a recall. SO they still haven't made the first call.

 

[Optimus🤖]

It's not a recall. SO they still haven't made the first call.

I remember you saying this, if I recall .

 

[HeavyAssault]

I remember you saying this, if I recall .

You are learning!! OMG....they grow up so fast these days.

 

[HeavyAssault]

The first call is the one you receive when your truck arrives at the dealership?

No one called me. I drove up....pointed her out....said "That ones mine!!"
Nice to be the first....even if it's the fourth time around.

 

[Donnie With A Dee]

Mine came today and it's in Spanish. Can't read it. So I guess I won't be taking it in.

 

[Optimus🤖]

Mine came today and it's in Spanish. Can't read it. So I guess I won't be taking it in.View attachment 204812

Does this mean your truck may be subject to deportation!?

 

[Donnie With A Dee]

Does this mean your truck may be subject to deportation!?

Yes, yes it does.

 

[Apparition]

Got mine today. I will not let them modify any programming unless it adds horsepower and/or torque.

 

[HvacSciGuy]

I received one today. I quickly filed it in my handy filling canister that sits in the corner of the kitchen for safe keeping.

 

[kobbq]

Has anyone else received this notice. They are calling it "Customer Satisfaction Program 25B06", but to me it's like a recall.View attachment 204504

Received one of these for our Ford Explorer.

 

[Lunch Box]

Does this mean your truck may be subject to deportation!?

Apparently my truck is bilingual, as I got both Spanish and English notifications !!

 

[2 wheels]

It was recently reported that Ford IS one of the manufacturers that is selling our personal vehicle data to 3d parties, including insurers. This notice may be Ford trying to get owners to load the softwware and make the permissions necessary for Ford to harvest and sell your data. IMV, this is not OK.

https://thebronconation.com/general...ving-data-to-auto-insurance-coverage-t.20324/
The embedded NYT article is pay-walled.

 

[Dented]

I unplugged my modem. My truck. My data.

For those that don't agree, you do you. I'll do me.

 

[2 wheels]

I unplugged my modem. My truck. My data.

For those that don't agree, you do you. I'll do me.

I so want to do this with my truck. I'm presently in a 2023 150 Tremor but will be flipping to a 23/24 250 later this year. I thought Ford disabled features if we shut off communication with the mothership? Do you still have nav and satellite connectivity in your truck? Thx

 

[wendell]

It was recently reported that Ford IS one of the manufacturers that is selling our personal vehicle data to 3d parties, including insurers. This notice may be Ford trying to get owners to load the softwware and make the permissions necessary for Ford to harvest and sell your data. IMV, this is not OK.

https://thebronconation.com/general...ving-data-to-auto-insurance-coverage-t.20324/
The embedded NYT article is pay-walled.

From the NYT article:

Two of these automakers said they were not sharing data or only limited data. Subaru shares odometer data with LexisNexis for Subaru customers who turn on Starlink and authorize that data be shared “when shopping for auto insurance,” said a spokesman, Dominick Infante.

Ford “does not transmit any connected vehicle data to either partner,” said a spokesman, Alan Hall, but partnered with them “to explore ways to support customers” who want to take part in usage-based insurance programs. Ford will share driving behavior from a car directly with an insurance company, he said, when a customer gives explicit consent via an in-vehicle touch screen.

The other automakers all have optional driver-coaching features in their apps — Kia, Mitsubishi and Hyundai have “Driving Score,” while Honda and Acura have “Driver Feedback” — that, when turned on, collect information about people’s mileage, speed, braking and acceleration that is then shared with LexisNexis or Verisk, the companies said in response to questions from The New York Times.

But that would not be evident or obvious to drivers using these features. In fact, before a Honda owner activates Driver Feedback, a screen titled “Respect for your Privacy” assures drivers that “your data will never be shared without your consent.” But it is shared — with Verisk, a fact disclosed in a more than 2,000-word “terms and conditions” screen that a driver needs to click “accept” on. (Honda does mention Verisk in an FAQ on its website and Kia highlights its relationship with LexisNexis Risk Solutions on its website. A Kia spokesman said LexisNexis can’t share driving score data of Kia participants with insurers without additional consent.)

 

[DarinH]

I got it also. What's the best way to send Ford a big middle finger emoji ?

Those commy bastards just want to spy on our driving habits and sell our data.

 

[2 wheels]

From the NYT article:

Two of these automakers said they were not sharing data or only limited data. Subaru shares odometer data with LexisNexis for Subaru customers who turn on Starlink and authorize that data be shared “when shopping for auto insurance,” said a spokesman, Dominick Infante.

Ford “does not transmit any connected vehicle data to either partner,” said a spokesman, Alan Hall, but partnered with them “to explore ways to support customers” who want to take part in usage-based insurance programs. Ford will share driving behavior from a car directly with an insurance company, he said, when a customer gives explicit consent via an in-vehicle touch screen.

The other automakers all have optional driver-coaching features in their apps — Kia, Mitsubishi and Hyundai have “Driving Score,” while Honda and Acura have “Driver Feedback” — that, when turned on, collect information about people’s mileage, speed, braking and acceleration that is then shared with LexisNexis or Verisk, the companies said in response to questions from The New York Times.

But that would not be evident or obvious to drivers using these features. In fact, before a Honda owner activates Driver Feedback, a screen titled “Respect for your Privacy” assures drivers that “your data will never be shared without your consent.” But it is shared — with Verisk, a fact disclosed in a more than 2,000-word “terms and conditions” screen that a driver needs to click “accept” on. (Honda does mention Verisk in an FAQ on its website and Kia highlights its relationship with LexisNexis Risk Solutions on its website. A Kia spokesman said LexisNexis can’t share driving score data of Kia participants with insurers without additional consent.)

The article says owners provide "Ford explicit consent via an in-vehicle touch screen." I have read that we do this when we consent to periodic updates of the on-board system and that one must consent to get the update. I do not know if this is true.

I do know my 2023 Tremor has asked me to approve updates via the in-vehicle touch screen.

 

[McE]

I'm sure it's all encrypted on the way out the door these days, or at least it better be, but it would be super interesting to run some packet captures and inspect the raw data being transmitted.