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Just checked his hosting and site... it has been locked and taken down. However, it says he is still in business and just "revamping" to host with Shopify. If he does actually get hosted with Shopify, you guys will have some recourse as you can file complaints with them too.
 
No.

Although I empathize with the idea of refraining from speaking negatively about another business, especially as a fellow business owner, because at the end of the day, we're all human and prone to mistakes, this stuff has to get out there to avoid this shady behavior from happening. We can certainly get busy, become overwhelmed which may lead to appear careless, but by the same token, we should be allowed the chance to correct our mistakes, a chance to learn from our mistakes and this the only way sometimes.

I've always been told clients are always right even though I rightfully DISagree but just this week I got a taste of that medicine when I had to sit in front of a great client who felt the need to "chew me" out, because he didn't fully understand our work process, in which case I feel I should not be held liable for his lack of understanding but I had to bite my lip and pretend that he was "right." We are paid to provide a service not educate you on how our work gets processed.

Case in point, I am going through two very similar cases as we speak:

One as a dissatisfied client of a business (much like you all, with the same level of irresponsibility from the shop) and the other as a service provider for a local off-road shop that we were clients for. I've been unsure as to how to handle these situations but I should sure would love to be able to disclose what they have put me through. Businesses that treat their clients poorly, as you described, should be called out to prevent others from facing similar issues. Just as we recommend businesses for stellar service, we should also be able to condem them for getting a failing grade. Word of mouth shapes reputations, and businesses that fail to uphold their commitments shouldn't be allowed to treat potential new costumers alike.

If you can help me avoid a headache, please let me know, and others in the area should be informed as well. After all, it's a business, and they certainly aren't hesitant to take your money, which in this game comes in large amounts.

The other case is where we (our survey business) was a client for an off-road shop who's worked on our company truck in the past. They learned what we do as a business and one day out of the blue, they reached out that they need our services. Great I thought until we're on month #2 of trying to collect our payment for our services. While I’ve tried to follow up respectfully and maintain patience, I’m on the verge of publicly addressing this issue, though part of me feels it may not be the right approach. They have blatenly ignored all of our past due invoices. I could keep going but want to refrain from providing any further details until I can decide how to handle this professionally, despite their lack of professionalism.

Feedback is incredibly important in today’s world and often speaks louder than price when it comes to quality.

It has become so natural in our lives now that every product allows for reviews which can at times be so vital in the decisions we make, should we give them our business or look elsewhere?
Agree completely. If you have proof of a bad transaction and have taken multiple steps at recourse, name and shame. You just might save another forum member from the scam. Same goes with forum members. I am on several forums and when someone scams or misrepresents themselves they are almost always called out. Same should happen here and I know it has behind the scenes, but it is better for everyone to avoid those types of people.
 
Well thank you for the support. My only remaining question is why is he calling the police on me for providing this info with pictures and proof. Why isn't he threatening any of the other dozens of people saying similar things? Why doesn't he get personal with anyone else? How can his retorts hold any water at all with so many saying the same? I guess thats 4 questions. But you get my point. He seems.... desperate honestly.
 
Well thank you for the support. My only remaining question is why is he calling the police on me for providing this info with pictures and proof. Why isn't he threatening any of the other dozens of people saying similar things? Why doesn't he get personal with anyone else? How can his retorts hold any water at all with so many saying the same? I guess thats 4 questions. But you get my point. He seems.... desperate honestly.
He's called the police because you've stated a public complaint agaisnt him?
 
He's called the police because you've stated a public complaint agaisnt him?
Yes. The police can't do anything about it obviously, but I know he's been in contact with them. He mentioned suing me for defamation. He knows my record, and is attempting to use it to discredit me even though its old, and has nothing to do with what he has done. I know he's put time and effort into me.
......Why has he not done the same with everyone else? I believe that is a damn good question, and I challenge everyone to give me a good answer. Personally, my honest opinion, is he's desperate.
.....For this reason I have sympathy. I honestly do.
 
Yes. The police can't do anything about it obviously, but I know he's been in contact with them. He mentioned suing me for defamation. He knows my record, and is attempting to use it to discredit me even though its old, and has nothing to do with what he has done. I know he's put time and effort into me.
......Why has he not done the same with everyone else? I believe that is a damn good question, and I challenge everyone to give me a good answer. Personally, my honest opinion, is he's desperate.
.....For this reason I have sympathy. I honestly do.
You should be suing him. He is not OK.
 
Well thank you for the support. My only remaining question is why is he calling the police on me for providing this info with pictures and proof. Why isn't he threatening any of the other dozens of people saying similar things? Why doesn't he get personal with anyone else? How can his retorts hold any water at all with so many saying the same? I guess thats 4 questions. But you get my point. He seems.... desperate honestly.
Did you steal his girlfriend years ago? Did you bully him in high school? All jokes aside, seems weirdly personal for him to single you out. Most guys like that would be aggressive/defensive across the board, until they go to jail... 🤷
 
Did you steal his girlfriend years ago? Did you bully him in high school? All jokes aside, seems weirdly personal for him to single you out. Most guys like that would be aggressive/defensive across the board, until they go to jail... 🤷
I was thinking the same. He's not calling the "Local PD" as he calls it on anyone of the other people complaining. Its very strange indeed.
 
He can't sue for defamation, that's how retarded this guy is. He has to prove you tarnished his reputation wether written or verbal and also, prove he suffered financial loss, emotional distress, etc.

Guys like this are ******. They're ones who were picked on in school, that could never get chicks, that never made the team and now, middle aged, they seek revenge. To take the time and effort to single someone out and try ruin their image by not handling it face to face, is a real *****. Knock those losers out!

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He can't sue for defamation, that's how retarded this guy is. He has to prove you tarnished his reputation wether written or verbal and also, prove he suffered financial loss, emotional distress, etc.

Guys like this are *******. They're ones who were picked on in school, that could never get chicks, that never made the team and now, middle aged, they seek revenge. To take the time and effort to single someone out and try ruin their image by not handling it face to face, is a real ***. Knock those losers out!

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Someone needs to tell HIM that. Apparently no one is
 
No attorneys will take on his case due to those reasonings mentioned by @Optimus🤖
In another forum, he "lol" and said he will let a judge decide who is truthful. I'm sure the biggest reason no attorney will take him on is because I have a receipt charging me for wheel and tiring balancing with a picture of showing up to the rims in the bed! How does he defend that one!? I have A video and a write up from another shop stating my wheel was cocked all the way to the 3 o'clock position, even though I was charged for an alignment. The kid is a crook.
I have him dead to right. Case closed.
 
In another forum, he "lol" and said he will let a judge decide who is truthful. I'm sure the biggest reason no attorney will take him on is because I have a receipt charging me for wheel and tiring balancing with a picture of showing up to the rims in the bed! How does he defend that one!? I have A video and a write up from another shop stating my wheel was cocked all the way to the 3 o'clock position, even though I was charged for an alignment. The kid is a crook.
I have him dead to right. Case closed.
If he's not out of business, you will put him out of business with any piece of evidence.

He's dead in the water, desperate for even a single drop.
 
Also, defamation means you’re lying. If you’re telling the truth about your service experience, and it costs him to lose his entire business, that’s not defamation, that’s a sucky business. You have evidence, you’ve trusted to let him remedy it, now you’re warning others of dealing with him due to the proof you have. He can never sue you for defamation for that, regardless of what financial losses he suffers.

EDIT: People can always sue you for anything they want to, but in this case, he wouldn’t have a case. I’ve worked in the personal injury space for many years now, and I guarantee there’s always a lawyer out there that will represent anyone for anything, but they are bottom feeders. IF he did try to sue you, he would have to show financial losses and everything else @Optimus🤖 mentioned, but also show that you lied in your defaming statements. So, if he went down this path, and had a sketchy attorney, it would cost you probably $2-3k to have a real attorney blow him off. It would never go to actual court.
 
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Also, defamation means you’re lying. If you’re telling the truth about your service experience, and it costs him to lose his entire business, that’s not defamation, that’s a sucky business. You have evidence, you’ve trusted to let him remedy it, now you’re warning others of dealing with him due to the proof you have. He can never sue you for defamation for that, regardless of what financial losses he suffers.

EDIT: People can always sue you for anything they want to, but in this case, he wouldn’t have a case. I’ve worked in the personal injury space for many years now, and I guarantee there’s always a lawyer out there that will represent anyone for anything, but they are bottom feeders. IF he did try to sue you, he would have to show financial losses and everything else @Optimus🤖 mentioned, but also show that you lied in your defaming statements. So, if he went down this path, and had a sketchy attorney, it would cost you probably $2-3k to have a real attorney blow him off. It would never go to actual court.
Plus dozens of others saying the same im sure doesn't help
 
The good news is that he doesn’t have any of your money, right? What’s the old saying, “the customer is always right?” The comments are spot on…you were the customer who was to be “serviced” (down Optimus, down boy!) by the provider of a product. That service provider didn’t provide and you called him on it. Maybe his wife left him, or maybe he’s facing multiple issues on multiple fronts. Doesn’t matter. In the end he’s a poor businessman and should probably pound sand and find another means to make a living. What he’s been trying to do ain’t workin’.
 
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