Battery Tender

^ ^ ^ Brilliant.

Now I may give my Motorcraft AGM batteries some parked love, -AND- power my engine block heater! through one connection... that is unless the combined operation of the Genius and the block heater exceed 15A/120V.

(I cannot thank you fellers enough. I love this forum for this very reason. Thoughtful individuals doing the best they can w/ their rigs and who are entirely willing to share the results of their efforts with others here. I hope I may be able to always give back in equal measure to what knowledge I have benefitted from, here, so far.)

🇺🇲
 
Apples said:
... that is unless the combined operation of the Genius and the block heater exceed 15A/120V...
Click to expand...
Unlikely, unless you use a long, low quality, small gauge extension cord.
 
Hatbox said:
Is that staying under your hood all the time? How is it dealing with heat?
Click to expand...
It works great.

Line Voltage: 120V to 240V AC
Frequency: 50Hz to 60Hz
Operating Temperature: -4° to 104°F(-20° to 40°C)
Storage Temperature: -22° to 140°F(-30° to 60°C)
Relative Humidity: 0 to 95% Non-Condensing
 
Canyon Trekker said:
It works great.

Line Voltage: 120V to 240V AC
Frequency: 50Hz to 60Hz
Operating Temperature: -4° to 104°F(-20° to 40°C)
Storage Temperature: -22° to 140°F(-30° to 60°C)
Relative Humidity: 0 to 95% Non-Condensing
Click to expand...
Isn’t the temperature under the hood when the motor is running well above the storage temp of 140? And do you leave it mounted to the battery like that?

Overall I’m a fan of this but want to understand the feasibility.
 
Any particular reason you go with 10 amp charger over the 5 amp if you are just using it more as a float charger when the truck is parked for an extended period of time? I’m at just short of stupid when it comes to stuff like this but I would think a 5 amp charger would suffice if you were just trying to keep the battery topped off.

If it were a dead battery that you were trying to “jump” and bring back to life I can see the 10 amp but what am I missing?
 
Hunterman said:
Any particular reason you go with 10 amp charger over the 5 amp if you are just using it more as a float charger when the truck is parked for an extended period of time? I’m at just short of stupid when it comes to stuff like this but I would think a 5 amp charger would suffice if you were just trying to keep the battery topped off.

If it were a dead battery that you were trying to “jump” and bring back to life I can see the 10 amp but what am I missing?
Click to expand...
The NOCO Genius 10 is a 10-amp charger/maintainer, offering roughly double the charging speed of the 5-amp Genius 5, making it ideal for larger batteries (up to 230 Ah) like those in RVs or trucks. The Genius 5 is better suited for smaller batteries (up to 120 Ah) in cars or lawnmowers. Both are smart chargers for 6V/12V lead-acid and lithium, but the Genius 10 adds a 12V power supply mode.
 
Canyon Trekker said:
It works great.

Line Voltage: 120V to 240V AC
Frequency: 50Hz to 60Hz
Operating Temperature: -4° to 104°F(-20° to 40°C)
Storage Temperature: -22° to 140°F(-30° to 60°C)
Relative Humidity: 0 to 95% Non-Condensing
Click to expand...

Hatbox said:
Isn’t the temperature under the hood when the motor is running well above the storage temp of 140? And do you leave it mounted to the battery like that?

Overall I’m a fan of this but want to understand the feasibility.
Click to expand...
Never bad to be cautious when it comes to electronics. BTW, I had to get my manual to look up other specs and found that the Gen Pro and Gen series has a maximum operating temp of 122F. Storage states 60C (128F) average and 80C (160F) maximum.

Under hood temperatures are not likely to exceed max temperature specs since air circulates throughout the engine compartment from outside. You can always contact the manufacturer for direct answers, but I know many people that use these mounted under the hood without issue, including myself. If you were still concerned about max temperature, you could always mount it lower than the battery. There's a nice flat area behind the headlight you could fit it into.

Here's a cool video on comparison of chargers and their operating temperatures shown towards the end of the video.
 
Canyon Trekker said:
Never bad to be cautious when it comes to electronics. BTW, I had to get my manual to look up other specs and found that the Gen Pro and Gen series has a maximum operating temp of 122F. Storage states 60C (128F) average and 80C (160F) maximum.

Under hood temperatures are not likely to exceed max temperature specs since air circulates throughout the engine compartment from outside. You can always contact the manufacturer for direct answers, but I know many people that use these mounted under the hood without issue, including myself. If you were still concerned about max temperature, you could always mount it lower than the battery. There's a nice flat area behind the headlight you could fit it into.

Here's a cool video on comparison of chargers and their operating temperatures shown towards the end of the video.
Click to expand...
Thanks for the information on this. I agree that air movement is going to be important, so I think the only challenges will be sitting in traffic or driving through the desert in the summer. I think when it comes to those types of road trips, I will probably just take it apart and keep this more for home and short drive maintenance. Overall, a really great setup.
 
I run a 2 amp maintainer on board, relatively inexpensive. Plenty to keep a well operating system in good health. It's a consumable in my opinion. Gives me a little peace of mind that the starlink won't use up my battery while camping. Happened once on my 2011 F350.

We have a charger kept in the the camper basement in case of bigger problems.
 
trmrzla said:
I use the 5 amp and it works great!
Click to expand...
When you mounted it to the lower grill housing, did you just use a taper bit and drilled a hole to feed that through? It looks like it then uses self tapping screws? Its no longer for sale on amazon, so gonna have to look elsewhere for it.
 
If you don't want to hard mount it in your truck NOCO makes extension cables you can run to the grill or tow hooks. Then you don't have to open the hood and you can use the charger on other vehicles.

Here is another alternative to the NOCO. I have a NOCO 1, 2x2,10 and several of their jump boxes and they have been great. This is super nerdy, but this charger has bluetooth and it has a high voltage setting I use to trick my Ecoflow Alternator charger into charging my Delta 2 Max and battery with the truck not running.

Amazon.com: Victron Energy Blue Smart IP65 Smart Car Battery Charger 12V 7A, Float & Trickle Charger and Desulfator for Motorcycle, ATV, RV, Lithium and Deep Cycle Batteries : Automotive

Buy Victron Energy Blue Smart IP65 Smart Car Battery Charger 12V 7A, Float & Trickle Charger and Desulfator for Motorcycle, ATV, RV, Lithium and Deep Cycle Batteries: Battery Chargers - Amazon.com ✓ FREE DELIVERY possible on eligible purchases
a.co
 
So I contacted Noco directly regarding the battery size and Amp-hour capacity (Ah) of the dual X2 batteries wired in parallel. They confirmed that the Noco Genius 10x1 was the correct maintainer for this situation. I just wanted to share the info, just fyi.

"Wiring batteries in parallel results in the voltage of the battery system staying the same, but the capacity increases. Parallel batteries must all be on one single bank of the charger. It is recommended to connect the bank's leads to the first and last battery to help distribute the charge more evenly between all batteries rather than connecting both positive and negative to the same single battery. Connecting multiple banks to batteries in the same parallel bank will result in errors on one or all banks.

The 14AWG leads of the GEN chargers can be extended up to an additional 10' without modifying or moving the fuse. The fuse must remain in place and the additional length must be added after the fuse. Absolutely no AC modifications allowed. The warranty will remain intact as long as these guidelines are followed. We do not provide information on extending the cables so you will have to research the appropriate cable and connections yourself. An additional fuse may be added closer to the battery for additional safety."
 
trmrzla said:
Front passenger side

View attachment 235141
Click to expand...
I love that idea and I just ordered a two way plug-in like that. I’d like to put it on the left side of that tow hook because my winch hook is connected to that one and would cover up where you have it. It would work on the other side of my winch also but that plastic panel is loose because of the winch install and so that’s a no go. The bummer thing is my number one spot on the left side of the tow hook. I don’t think that the plug-in adapter is going to fit there because it’s too shallow and there’s a metal bumper support behind there.

I guess I’ll see when I get the plug-in, where it fits.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_7562.webp
    IMG_7562.webp
    221.8 KB · Views: 30
You must log in or register to reply here.

Tremor Forum Fav 👍

RetraxPRO XR Retractable Truck Bed Tonneau Cover F250/F350 RetraxPRO XR Retractable Truck Bed Tonneau Cover for 2017-2022 Ford F-250 F-350 Super Duty - Grab one set through Amazon!

Tremor Forum Photos

Latest Discussions

Back
Top Bottom