7.3 to lose 40 LB FT of TQ and 10 HP for 2027

[JM454]

What a joke Ford is too, did you see the 6.6 Gas now makes 420 HP/475 LB FT for 2027? They upped it past 7.3 power levels after Ford cut the 7.3 down. As I predicted, STUPID move by Ford. Now the 7.3 V8 makes 30 LB FT less grunt than the 6.6 Gas.

Emissions my butt. This was a calculated move to push more diesels that fell on its face before it was ever executed. They sold more GM gassers for this year instead, great job Ford! Not.

There is your answer, yes Ford really detuned the 7.3

 

[5150]

GM and Ford are both trash today, but at least they aren't Dodge, or Ram, or Chrysler, or Stelanits, or Fiat, or Daimler, or whatever the f**k they are today.

 

[JM454]

GM and Ford are both trash today, but at least they aren't Dodge, or Ram, or Chrysler, or Stelanits, or Fiat, or Daimler, or whatever the f**k they are today.

It’s just pretty laughable, the 6.7 HO is significantly more expensive than the new 8.3L Duramax while offering significantly less power and some less torque. Then they neuter the 7.3 and GM up-tunes the 6.6. So now your base motor doesn’t compete, and you have your customers paying the highest in the industry for a diesel that’s not even best in class. Whoever was in charge of these decisions should be canned yesterday. They had a very nice powertrain lineup that was priced appropriately for 2026 and they got greedy. Now it’s going to bite them in the ass.

No best in class anything except best in class profit off the customer.

For the record I very much like Ford, which is why when I see the greedy bastards try and pull a fast one I called it out. Self sabotaging product lineup to squeeze more $$ out on an all ready profitable model is too far.

 

[NightForceFan]

It’s just pretty laughable, the 6.7 HO is significantly more expensive than the new 8.3L Duramax while offering significantly less power and some less torque. Then they neuter the 7.3 and GM up-tunes the 6.6. So now your base motor doesn’t compete, and you have your customers paying the highest in the industry for a diesel that’s not even best in class. Whoever was in charge of these decisions should be canned yesterday. They had a very nice powertrain lineup that was priced appropriately for 2026 and they got greedy. Now it’s going to bite them in the ass.

No best in class anything except best in class profit off the customer.

For the record I very much like Ford, which is why when I see the greedy bastards try and pull a fast one I called it out. Self sabotaging product lineup to squeeze more $$ out on an all ready profitable model is too far.

Ford will still outsell GM.

 

[JM454]

Ford will still outsell GM.

The last two model years GM has outsold Ford when you combine GMC Sierra and Silverado HD models. They are the same truck.

 

[NightForceFan]

The last two model years GM has outsold Ford when you combine GMC Sierra and Silverado HD models. They are the same truck.

What is your reason for not jumping ship and going out to buy the GM?

 

[JM454]

What is your reason for not jumping ship and going out to buy the GM?

Because my truck is 4 months old, I will absolutely buy a GM at trade in time if Ford doesn’t either A) Cheapen the Diesel option to $9,500 range or B) Bring back the 7.3’s original power.

 

[NightForceFan]

Because my truck is 4 months old, I will absolutely buy a GM at trade in time if Ford doesn’t either A) Cheapen the Diesel option to $9,500 range or B) Bring back the 7.3’s original power.

You know good and well neither of those will happen. Everything goes up in price, nothing retreats from any manufacturer.
I also highly doubt anyone would even notice the derate if not advertised. I have both HOs and SOs in my fleet and cannot tell them apart except for DEF usage.

 

[JM454]

You know good and well neither of those will happen. Everything goes up in price, nothing retreats from any manufacturer.
I also highly doubt anyone would even notice the derate if not advertised. I have both HOs and SOs in my fleet and cannot tell them apart except for DEF usage.

I promise you, anyone can 100% feel a 40 LB FT drop at levels below 500 Lb Ft. that’s the difference between a 5.0 Coyote and GM 6.2L, which is massive back to back. At 700+ LB FT that percentage gets small and hard to detect.

 

[NightForceFan]

I promise you, anyone can 100% feel a 40 LB FT drop at levels below 500 Lb Ft. that’s the difference between a 5.0 Coyote and GM 6.2L, which is massive back to back. At 700+ LB FT that percentage gets small and hard to detect.

The GM 6.2 used to be a great motor. I had it in several Denalis and have had the Ford version in 3 Gen 1 Raptors. The GM 6.2 is garbage now. I also have the 5.0 in a 2026 F150 Tremor. It's much better than the EB and I can am sure miles better than the GM 6.2, even with less torque.
I stand by my original statement, if most folks drove the 2027 7.3 and the 2026 7.3 back to back without knowing there was a derate, I highly doubt they would notice.

 

[Kahuna]

Can't wait for someone to get both on the dyno and put this nonsense to bed

 

[5150]

A definitive answer on what was “changed” to drop the power that much would be nice too. There’s rumors of a new camshaft for ‘27 with less lift as the reason for loss of power. But then when the ‘26 came out there were members of this Forum saying that the ‘26 got a new cam and lifters to try to stop the cam and lifter issues. Two new cams in two years? I find that hard to believe.

 

[Nu2SDF350]

I've accepted my fate and soon there will be more people like me arriving who own and drive with a 2027 7.3L and are going to tell you that all is well. The 27' F350 7.3L gets up to speed just as fast as safely needed, even at the same rate as the 26' F350 6.7L HO's I've test driven. I'm just pushing the go pedal harder which is expected, Yes?. So far under break-in, I have yet to need to push above 3500 rpm. If needed, there's plenty of 27' 7.3L HP/TQ on stand-by at the higher RPMs if I really want to push in order to hit the car ahead of me

For towing, I stand down, I'll leave that to your speculation and Ford who's rating showing no 2027 impact with the 4.3 axle which we all have as this is the "Tremor" forum, Yes?.

I doubt even dyno results will change anyone's real world usage of the now fleet wide updated 7.3L "Godzilla" - Are we 2027 owners still allowed to use "Godzilla"?

 

[The Evil Twin]

I've accepted my fate and soon there will be more people like me arriving who own and drive with a 2027 7.3L and are going to tell you that all is well. The 27' F350 7.3L gets up to speed just as fast as safely needed, even at the same rate as the 26' F350 6.7L HO's I've test driven. I'm just pushing the go pedal harder which is expected, Yes?. So far under break-in, I have yet to need to push above 3500 rpm. If needed, there's plenty of 27' 7.3L HP/TQ on stand-by at the higher RPMs if I really want to push in order to hit the car ahead of me

For towing, I stand down, I'll leave that to your speculation and Ford who's rating showing no 2027 impact with the 4.3 axle which we all have as this is the "Tremor" forum, Yes?.

I doubt even dyno results will change anyone's real world usage of the now fleet wide updated 7.3L "Godzilla" - Are we 2027 owners still allowed to use "Godzilla"?

It’s already broken in. Mash the skinny pedal!!

 

[JM454]

I had to know, so I drove an XL SuperCab today while I had my Transit in for service. Definitely can feel the power loss back to back mostly below 2,500 rpm. The low end pull is reduced for sure. I have to admit above 3,000 RPM it’s hard to tell a difference at all, so if you are mountain towing and live at 5,000 RPM you may not care. If you do a lot of low RPM driving yes you are going to feel it down there (or lack thereof).

Both trucks had 3.73, but getting in mine after it feels a good margin stronger pulling away from a stoplight than the 2027. The 2027 feels like it needs to be wound up to wake up.

 

[Nu2SDF350]

As I read and previously reported, Ford has stated the new 2027 calibration included "softening the pedal", perhaps that's what your ass-dyno is feeling

 

[Velvet Elvis]

I promise you, anyone can 100% feel a 40 LB FT drop at levels below 500 Lb Ft. that’s the difference between a 5.0 Coyote and GM 6.2L, which is massive back to back. At 700+ LB FT that percentage gets small and hard to detect.

Lol.. wut?

Please don't smoke crack before posting.

 

[JM454]

Lol.. wut?

Please don't smoke crack before posting.

A coyote is absolutely gutless compared to a 6.2 at low revs. We aren’t talking about wide open throttle racing. Don’t let the tach go above 2,000 rpm and report back…don’t get me wrong I loved my Coyote but she’s got a torque deficit.

 

[JM454]

As I read and previously reported, Ford has stated the new 2027 calibration included "softening the pedal", perhaps that's what your ass-dyno is feeling

It definitely does not feel good. Hope we get a real time dyno soon, I have a hunch the deficit is much larger than that 40 Lb Ft at peak rpm in the low end where it matters…that’s what I was concerned with. Maybe a 40 LB FT drop at peak, but it could be 60 LB FT at 2,000 rpm….and there lack of any new oem graphs is concerning to say the least. The loss may be larger than the headlines lead on.

 

[Velvet Elvis]

A coyote is absolutely gutless compared to a 6.2. We aren’t talking about wide open throttle racing. Don’t let the tach go above 2,000 rpm and come back…

The coyote is an oversquare, high RPM biased, SPORTS CAR ENGINE thta has been detuned to work in a truck.

You're comparing it to the (at the time) PREMIER GM TRUCK V8 with 25% larger displacement.

But but.... MuH lOw EnD tOrQ...... You REALLY WANNA GO THERE? My wife's Expedition will pull a 6.2 uphill. You do realize the 5.0 is NOT Ford's premiere half ton towing engine... don't you?

You wanna bring that 6.2 to pull against her 3.5HO?

I didn't think so. You better find a fucking 6.6 if you want to compete.

Let me know when you get back from your engine replacement and we'll set something up.



Where are all these Chevy gargling idiots coming from lately?