What did you do?Definitely can keep it and it would help re-sale later on.
I decided to roll my own solution that is more versatile than the oem offering, and without losing any storage space. ('22 model year).
Pro-power worth it?
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This is my current inverter setup. I need to figure out something better. I’m the spring it will have to go back into the TT.
Why did you go with the 2k inverter and not the 3k one? Why did you choose this brand?Here's some pics and videos. Couldn't have asked for a better setup. I upgraded the wiring going to all the factory interior 120V power points as well. I wouldn't recommend any of the Jackery, EcoFlow, or any other product that is similar.
I know one of his reasons was that it fit exactly where the factory inverter was. Beyond that, I’ll wait to read his response as well. Haha
You can’t fit anything more than that there that’s a name brand pure sine wave inverter.
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Nice Job! Very Clean. Looks professional.Here's some pics and videos. Couldn't have asked for a better setup. I upgraded the wiring going to all the factory interior 120V power points as well. I wouldn't recommend any of the Jackery, EcoFlow, or any other product that is similar.
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PPO and Electrical related Question - It was my impression that selecting Pro Power Onboard resulted in the loss of the two AC outlets in the Cab. At least for a Lariat build. If so, I'd rather keep the cab outlets in lieu of the PPO in the bed....and install bed power later..... If not, I'd take them both ....or....
For anyone who plans to make significant electrical mods later, I wonder if it would be better to skip "PPO" at time of purchase and later incorporate a more customized power system in the bed when the broader electrical installation is being designed and installed? Things like Redarc BCDC charger, ARB Dual air compressor, Lithium "house" battery for fridge, wiring to fridge, exterior lights, etc. Avoid the $1,000 for PPO and put that towards the overall electrical build out which would likely include a pure sine wave converter and outlet...
(I'm on the fence here, and will pose the question to Mule Expedition Outfitters - see link below. They've always offered me good advice).
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PPO and Electrical related Question - It was my impression that selecting Pro Power Onboard resulted in the loss of the two AC outlets in the Cab. At least for a Lariat build. If so, I'd rather keep the cab outlets in lieu of the PPO in the bed....and install bed power later..... If not, I'd take them both ....or....
For anyone who plans to make significant electrical mods later, I wonder if it would be better to skip "PPO" at time of purchase and later incorporate a more customized power system in the bed when the broader electrical installation is being designed and installed? Things like Redarc BCDC charger, ARB Dual air compressor, Lithium "house" battery for fridge, wiring to fridge, exterior lights, etc. Avoid the $1,000 for PPO and put that towards the overall electrical build out which would likely include a pure sine wave converter and outlet...
(I'm on the fence here, and will pose the question to Mule Expedition Outfitters - see link below. They've always offered me good advice).
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I received my 2024 non-tremor Lariat F250 Supercab with ProPower Onboard (PPO). I still have two 120v AC outlets in the cab; one up front on lower dash and one in the back seat on the console. With PPO, the outlets in the cab do not say 400w any longer; they say 120v AC 20A just like the outlet in the bed. By calculation, 120v x 20amp is 2,400watts though it seems the max is really 2,000watts. The outlet in the bed says 120v AC 20amp but it also says "2,000watt max". In any case, PPO gives the option of running 400watts or 2,000watts from the cab outlets. Not sure if the 2,000watt inverter has built in "low power mode" or they kept the separate 400watt inverter but I suspect the latter.
From the propower onboard screen on the center display, if you hit the Power button in the upper left (see pictures grabbed off a random YT video), that highlights the cab in blue (front and rear seats) meaning you have 400watts available in the front seat and rear seat outlet; not in the bed outlet. The bar chart also shows how much you are using of the available 400watts. If you select the Generator button (lower, center of the screen), the cab and the bed are highlighted in blue meaning you have the full 2000watts available from a single outlet at a time (front cab, rear cab, or bed) or a total of 2,000watts spread out over those three outlets.
As far as the "would you do it again?" question; absolutely not. If I would have understood exactly how PPO was implemented, I would have done my own setup. With PPO, I have two large 12v batteries fed only by a single 12v 250amp alternator. With PPO, you can not get two 12v alternators for a total of 410amps. With PPO, the second alternator is a 24v 150amp alternator and can ONLY power the inverter. Or more correctly, 24v powers two small 12v batteries, wired in series to 24v, located by the big inverter under the rear seat. The inverter is a 24v-to-120v inverter. I get why they did it. A 24v 150amp alternator will generate 3,600watts. A 12v 150amp will only generate 1,800watts. They wanted to ensure that the propower would have adequate power which they could not do if it was run off a shared 12v system. On 12v circuit, 2,000watt inverter would draw 12v 167amps not including DC-to-AC conversion efficiency losses.
Still, I would have much preferred to have two 12v alternators (250amp and 160amp to total 410amps of 12v) and had those tied to my two big 12v batteries. Then, I would have bought a 12v 2,000watt inverter and wired it directly to 12v circuit. I'm sure the two little 12v AGM will last a long time, but now I'm carrying around four 12v batteries, rather than two, that will eventually need replacing.
As to the inverter under the seat, I have that even though I do not have the ProPower. Kinda surprised to have a fairly good sized box there. Seems a bit overkill for 400W.
I have a Dewalt Power Station I use for such things as well as three generators so I was happy to not have the ProPower, but it wouldn't have been a deal breaker had it been on the truck I found.
I have a Dewalt Power Station I use for such things as well as three generators so I was happy to not have the ProPower, but it wouldn't have been a deal breaker had it been on the truck I found.
Yep. 400watt inverter is the "regular one" that most, if not everyone, gets. PPO adds the 24v alternator, two small 12v AGM batteries wired in series (to make 24v) under the rear seat and the big 24v, 2000watt inverter. I just found it interesting they kept what I assume is the smaller 12v 400watt output inverter, which is nice, so one need not run the big inverter for lower wattage draws.
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Yeah, I was just surprised that they needed a box. My Rams and Jeeps have the small inverters stuffed out of sight somewhere, but they are only 150w
Pro power is one of my favorite features of the truck. I’m a commercial photographer, and have a 6000wh Goal Zero battery in the back to keep my cameras/lights/drones etc charged and my compressor fridge running. Whenever the truck is on, I can top up the battery at about a constant 550 watts. It’s awesome.
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Mind linking it? I searched your threads and had a hard time finding it.Definitely can keep it and it would help re-sale later on.
I decided to roll my own solution that is more versatile than the oem offering, and without losing any storage space. ('22 model year).
Ok @BroncOh where’s the BroncProPower kit on your website? I just purchased an 80q electric travel cooler for the bed. I need your power assistance
Short answer for me YES. Use it all the time for power tools and such
Here’s a link to my system that powers my 73qt fridge in the back of my truck. It runs 24/7 with little monitoring from me.
This is obviously dated information but the links all should still work. We are currently camping with ours running off the solar supplied Jackery and the unit is maintaining frozen food in hot ambient temperatures in Arkansas.
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Start at post #781 in build thread and it stops at post #842.
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Ordered a 2KW pure sine wave inverter that 'may' just fit where the 400 watt factory one is without having to remove the factory lockable storage box, and it will still be able to fold flat. If it does fit, I will do the install in 3 phases: • Inverter mounting/running fused cable from battery...
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