Need help with purchasing - looking at a 2020-2022 Tremor - towing 5th wheel

They say this model trailer keeps me under stickered payload.
What is the stickered payload for your truck? I believe you have an F-250 with the Powerstroke.
 
Advertised hitch weight is a lie. RV sales reps lie.

You are close or over with your actual pin weight once loaded.

Your hitch alone will put you over.

What does your payload sticker say? Mine is 2735# on the same truck.

Can you tow it-yes. Legally- probably not.
 
1000012007.webp
 
Says payload 2909 lbs. They said I have the same overload leaf springs and 10 sp transmission as the F350.
2909-2540=369. Minus whatever the actual weight of the 5th wheel hitch itself. Let's say it's 150. 369-150=216. That means that you can only haul 216 more pounds that whatever the truck weighed before you added anything to it. You're wife, maybe kids, any tools or food. It is HIGHLY likely that you'll be over on SOMETHING. Axle weight, Gross vehicle weight, Gross combined weight rating. Something.
People selling RV's will tell you anything to get you to buy it. It's not their responsibility when something happens. Your truck is a 250. That's what the vin lable says, regardless of what underpinnings it may have. In the eyes of the law, the lable is what matters. If something where the happen and there were serious injuries or death, you can bet the a lawyer will figure out that you may have been over based on what that lable says, then your done. Potentially everything you've worked for is gone. It's not worth the risk. Good luck.
 
Nice setup PapaRaptor, I have an atlas blue 22 also pulling a 2026 solitude 310gk 13892 lbs dry . The tremor handles it awesomely, even better with the air bags added
PapaRaptor was a great member back in the day. He hasn't been active in over 2 years.
 
I have a 2022 F250 Diesel 6.7L Tremor. Just bought a 43' fifth wheel GVWR 16,200 lbs hitch weight 2540 lbs. The reps at Camping World did the calculations and said no problem with my truck. They say this model trailer keeps me under stickered payload. I just wanted to hear experiences like yours with similar truck and trailer. Did you have to get airbags or modify anything?
Dealers will tell you ANYTHING to make the sale. It is up to you to do your homework and educate yourself on how the numbers work.

First off, the pin weight (proper term for a 5th wheel) they are giving you is your dry weight off the factory floor, and a generic number for your model. Never believe what a dealer tells you as most of them don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground. You would be shocked to find out how LITTLE these sales folks know about the product they are selling. I find even the service folks to be somewhat clueless these days on the rigs they service.

So, back to the topic at hand; the number they use to calculate your pin weight does not include any payload (gear, water, waste tanks, propane, add-ons, etc.).

Second of all, the rule of thumb for actual pin weight is 20-23% of GVWR, so at 16,200 you’re looking at 3200-3700 lbs and that is with no buffer. Remember, your payload also includes EVERYTHING in the truck bed and cab as well.

I hate to tell you but that is going to be way over payload for a F250 and most SRW 350s.

We spent over a year running the numbers for my truck before we found the right 5th wheel. Do your homework. Know your numbers and most importantly know that that you’re legal and safe. Nobody likes towing next to a “Bro” on the highway who has no f*ing clue how about legalities and towing specs.
 
Last edited:
Dealers will tell you ANYTHING to make the sale. It is up to you to do your homework and educate yourself on how the numbers work.

First off, the pin weight (proper term for a 5th wheel) they are giving you is your dry weight off the factory floor, and a generic number for your model. Never believe what a dealer tells you as most of them don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground. You would be shocked to find out how LITTLE these sales folks know about the product they are selling. I find even the service folks to somewhat clueless these days on the rigs they service.

So, back to the topic at hand; the number they use to calculate your pin weight does not include any payload (gear, water, waste tanks, propane, add-ons, etc.).

Second of all, the rule of thumb for actual pin weight is 20-23% of GVWR, so at 16,200 you’re looking at 3200-3700 lbs and that is with no buffer. Remember, your payload also includes EVERYTHING in the truck bed and cab as well.

I hate to tell you but that is going to be way over payload for a F250 and most SRW 350s.

We spent over a year running the numbers for my truck before we found the right 5th wheel. Do your homework. Know your numbers and most importantly know that that you’re legal and safe. Nobody likes towing next to a “Bro” on the highway who has no f*ing clue how about legalities and towing specs.
All this from a guy who flies freighters for a living. Sounds like someone who knows a thing or two about weight distribution and what is legal. We'll put sir.
 
Back
Top Bottom