Anti Sway or Weight Distribution Necessary?

So I came across the Tuson Trailer Sway Control System. eTrailer recommended it because I have a lot of truck for a 30ft Airstream. Mr. Truck recommended it too, has an old YT video putting it through its paces on a track in a double tow situation. I also want to stay away from WDH because the frame bending. Airstream seem to have a particular issue causing the hull to separate from the frame.

Has anyone used it before?

That, obviously, won't return any weight to the front of the truck, being a sway control only. In the world of cause and effect, you are essentially addressing the effect, and ignoring part of the cause of sway.
 
That, obviously, won't return any weight to the front of the truck, being a sway control only. In the world of cause and effect, you are essentially addressing the effect, and ignoring part of the cause of sway.
Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't the cause be more likely to come from an improperly loaded trailer or an environmental factor? The environmental factors are what I am trying to mitigate. And as long as the weight removed from the front axle is not significant, an understeering scenario is preferable when towing? I have a friend with the exact same trailer, so we are going to take it to a CAT scale soon and see how much I am losing, and get a feel for how it tows sans WDH. I will report back.
 
According to my spreadsheet linked below and based on my loaded MY24 F-350 Platinum diesel Tremor, with a 9000lb trailer a little WD, but not too much would be good. Tongue weight has the biggest effect on trailer sway. Start by measuring your tongue weight and make sure that you are somewhere near 12.5%. For a 9000 lb trailer that would be 1125 lbs. If you are not near that, figure out how to adjust the trailer loading to get there. With that the front of the truck will be a little light and the rear a little heavy, so dial in just a little weight distribution. 15% tongue weight with a little more WD might be even better.

 
Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn't the cause be more likely to come from an improperly loaded trailer or an environmental factor?
Improper loading is a huge factor, but I'm looking beyond that figuring that's already been addressed. Assuming proper loading but a heavy tongue (like my scenario) the impact to the front is what it is so to speak. So then you are left with how your rig responds to the environmental or physical inputs (wind, other vehicles, road irregularities, etc). The lighter the front gets, the more it will want to follow instead of lead.
And as long as the weight removed from the front axle is not significant, an understeering scenario is preferable when towing? I have a friend with the exact same trailer, so we are going to take it to a CAT scale soon and see how much I am losing
Your first statement in this quote is a critical and you want to be sure it's not an incorrect assumption. Going to the scale is the way to get the data and understand the correct path forward. You may be fine without WDH, I'm just trying to point out the facts. Many assume WDH are only for 1/2 ton trucks and that simply isn't the case.

15% tongue weight with a little more WD might be even better.
I'm at ~14% and add enough WD to get my front end to a 50% return. In other words, the distance the front end raises is half of what it is with no WD at all. Tows incredibly well like this. This, by the way, is fully aligned with the recommendations in the Ford Towing Guide.

Sounds to me like you are on the right track, honestly. Once you have the data in hand you can make an informed opinion. My comments are based on first hand experience with my truck, but you have a better starting point with the 6.7 due to the extra weight up front. The heavy end always wants to lead and the 6.7 has something like an 800lb advantage!
 
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Does the Ford guide have requirements for when to use and not use a WDH? After you mentioned the guide I think I remember it almost always suggesting it.
 
WDH is a really nice feature. I generally dont use weight distribution on trailers below 10k (especially on an F350) but it cant hurt.

We sell (and love) the Shockerhitch brand of hitches. Not only do they offer hitches for weight distribution and sway control accessories, but the airbag transforms the towing experience for those in the truck but also the trailer.

Airstreams are known to have some serious issues where the trailer tongue meets the front bulkhead. This hitch will most definitely alleviate that. I would be curious for airstream owners to chime in and comment if they know what affect a weight distribution hitch has on that front wall separation... Would it make it worse, or improve it?


After using of these for a full year, I said to myself I need to sell these things. Once you tow with them you will never look at a Gen-Y or B&W turnover ball again --and Ive owned both.

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I appreciates everyone's sanity check. I do not know what I do not know.

Does the Ford guide have requirements for when to use and not use a WDH? After you mentioned the guide I think I remember it almost always suggesting it.
Not for SD, although they provide guidance on how to distribute the weight. The weight carrying and weight distributing capacities are equivalent. This does somewhat make sense to me. A heavy, properly loaded flatbed trailer is a different animal than the same length/weight travel trailer because of the frontal and side area effects.
 
I'd weigh in on this discussion but I don't think my opinion would sway you one way or the other 🤪.
 
I appreciates everyone's sanity check. I do not know what I do not know.

Does the Ford guide have requirements for when to use and not use a WDH? After you mentioned the guide I think I remember it almost always suggesting it.
Sway is mitigated by adding tongue weight relative to the total weight of the trailer. A good rule of thumb is >12%. In my experience if you have enough tongue weight you don’t need sway control.

The problem is as you increase tongue weight to mitigate sway, you increase sag (uneven loading on the rear suspension). This where a WDH comes in, to push weight to the front wheels and eliminate sag. Airbags can also address sag, but they don’t address weight balance between axles and I feel they should only be used for fine tuning rake.

In my experience you can get away with <750 lb of tongue weight or <1000 lb of payload in the bed before sag becomes an issue on the F350, but there are other factors like the length of your hitch and load positioning to consider.
 
High crosswinds are when I really appreciate my WD hitch with sway control.
Considering the cost of a Tremor and a travel trailer, I would call a good hitch cheap insurance.
 
So I came across the Tuson Trailer Sway Control System. eTrailer recommended it because I have a lot of truck for a 30ft Airstream. Mr. Truck recommended it too, has an old YT video putting it through its paces on a track in a double tow situation. I also want to stay away from WDH because the frame bending. Airstream seem to have a particular issue causing the hull to separate from the frame.

Has anyone used it before?

I would be concerned this is just masking a problem. I do not own one but just doing a bit of research it seems if you had a sway problem it would be constantly applying brakes one side or the other.
If you are really not wanting a WDH, maybe waiting till you tow a bit and determine if you need it is the best way to go.
I am pulling a 7K trailer with my F250 after multiple F150s. I hated the way it felt with the 1/2 ton even with the WDH. I will still use the WDH with the 3/4 ton because I prefer the feel and piece of mind.
 

WDH isn't always necessary but can help idiot proof your setup. Don't be fooled...we can all be a knucklehead at times.
 
I appreciates everyone's sanity check. I do not know what I do not know.

Does the Ford guide have requirements for when to use and not use a WDH? After you mentioned the guide I think I remember it almost always suggesting it.
Forward to page 41, it explains the brakes and WDH. This is from @shermanator2. He also made a cool spread sheet to help you calculate your weight distribution.

It's really up to you as to when to use it. In your situation, being that you a have an F350 and only towing 9,000 lbs., you may not need it at all. All bets are off if you overload or improperly load the trailer.
 

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WDH is a really nice feature. I generally dont use weight distribution on trailers below 10k (especially on an F350) but it cant hurt.

We sell (and love) the Shockerhitch brand of hitches. Not only do they offer hitches for weight distribution and sway control accessories, but the airbag transforms the towing experience for those in the truck but also the trailer.

Airstreams are known to have some serious issues where the trailer tongue meets the front bulkhead. This hitch will most definitely alleviate that. I would be curious for airstream owners to chime in and comment if they know what affect a weight distribution hitch has on that front wall separation... Would it make it worse, or improve it?


After using of these for a full year, I said to myself I need to sell these things. Once you tow with them you will never look at a Gen-Y or B&W turnover ball again --and Ive owned both.

Shop ShockHitch at WAYPOINT
MADE IN USA



I was looking at these and air safe. I will hit you up if we go this route
 
A better question would be, why would you NOT use a WD hitch set up? I use the Equalizer when I’m on the road. Just pulling my trailer to where I store it or other short trips I don’t use it. I consider it added insurance for the unexpected.
 
I'm picking up an Airstream next week and will not be using a WDH or anti-sway..... at least until I get final setup (things packed in it and such) to go across scales and see if really needed. In addition to the comments you read here, I highly suggest you go watch videos from KYD (Keep Your Daydream) and 13 Adventures where they have tons of info that happens to be specific to Super Duty and Airstreams. You will notice neither use them for very specific reasons, especially the topic of FES (front end separation) that is thought to be partially result of use of WDH and stress placed on the frame. I know this goes against all conventional thoughts and wisdom of everyone that pulls RV's and just immediately thinks WDH is a must.
 
I'm picking up an Airstream next week and will not be using a WDH or anti-sway..... at least until I get final setup (things packed in it and such) to go across scales and see if really needed. In addition to the comments you read here, I highly suggest you go watch videos from KYD (Keep Your Daydream) and 13 Adventures where they have tons of info that happens to be specific to Super Duty and Airstreams. You will notice neither use them for very specific reasons, especially the topic of FES (front end separation) that is thought to be partially result of use of WDH and stress placed on the frame. I know this goes against all conventional thoughts and wisdom of everyone that pulls RV's and just immediately thinks WDH is a must.

Great comment

Yes KYD has done a great job of documenting the highs and lows (although mostly highs) of airstream ownership. I also thought they warned against weight distribution (per your comment) but its been quite some time since I watched the videos and I didnt want to go out on a limb.
 
I know this goes against all conventional thoughts and wisdom of everyone that pulls RV's and just immediately thinks WDH is a must.
I get your point but it doesn't have to be an "all or nothing" approach either. As @shermanator2 stated you can choose to only dial in a portion of the distribution. Very easy with the the hitch I have which makes it easy to experiment with different settings, etc

WeighSafe provides a calculated range and I've found that I prefer the lower end = less distribution.

My truck looked a bit comical without any mitigation, like one of those "Carolina squat" trucks:

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I really like @Modman’s approach to adjusting the weight distribution. From playing with a handful of different scenarios it looks like taking out half of the front lift with the WD is going to be pretty damn close most of the time for a Super Duty truck. Years ago I read instructions that came with a name brand WD system that said to match the front and rear drop. That may be appropriate for a 1968 Country Squire pulling an Airstream, but not for a SuperDuty truck.

I have updated my spreadsheet (attached) so it now has a separate section for a weight distribution hitch that calculates the optimum setting based on proportionally loading the axles according to their load ratings. It then takes the front lift measured without WD and tells what to set the front lift at with the WD.

Back to the OP’s situation. Depending on the particulars, with a diesel Tremor and a 9000lb trailer he may not need WD, or maybe a little but not too much.

@Modman, I would like to see your numbers in the spreadsheet.
 

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A better question would be, why would you NOT use a WD hitch set up? I use the Equalizer when I’m on the road. Just pulling my trailer to where I store it or other short trips I don’t use it. I consider it added insurance for the unexpected.
Airstreams have a known issue of the hull and frame separating, and it is believed to be from WDHs.
 
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