Ford PTO power takeoff outlet???

[ccw]

It only operates when the vehicle is in neutral (don’t quote me on that part).

Quoting you! PTO with the 10 speed can actually work when the vehicle is stationary or in motion:

“The 10-speed Heavy Duty Automatic features Ford’s pioneering Live-Drive Power Takeoff which allows customer to operate accessories when the engine is running, whether the vehicle is in motion or stopped. This is a critical option for equipment that requires power on the move, such as snowplows, and dump trucks.”

https://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/2020-ford-f-series-super-duty-power-takeoff-output/

I think that’s a new thing, though, and traditionally pickup truck PTO only worked while stationary.

 

[RedZilla]

Quoting you! PTO with the 10 speed can actually work when the vehicle is stationary or in motion:

“The 10-speed Heavy Duty Automatic features Ford’s pioneering Live-Drive Power Takeoff which allows customer to operate accessories when the engine is running, whether the vehicle is in motion or stopped. This is a critical option for equipment that requires power on the move, such as snowplows, and dump trucks.”

https://www.ford-trucks.com/articles/2020-ford-f-series-super-duty-power-takeoff-output/

I think that’s a new thing, though, and traditionally pickup truck PTO only worked while stationary.

With a little more aftermarket involvement there is a whole lot of potential with this option. That's the main reason I included it in my build, hoping once aftermarket companies catch on the flood gates will open for accessory choices.

 

[Al_Mo]

With a little more aftermarket involvement there is a whole lot of potential with this option. That's the main reason I included it in my build, hoping once aftermarket companies catch on the flood gates will open for accessory choices.

Just called my Ford dealer to add to build!!

 

[Vecman]

Update to this thread, concerning those who linke

Here is a video of a company that makes custom PTO generators. It looks like you have to call for a quote from them because they offer many sizes and many different output panels. But, this is a good solution to run a Truck Camper or even your entire home!!

As an update to this thread, this company emailed me (after much nagging) and stated their PTO generator solutions currently do not work for the super duty pickups. So no go for that solution. I'm still trying to find anyone that offers a PTO generator solution for our trucks, as that is what I want most from this.

 

[ECC]

The PTO can drive anything by shaft or pully on drive shaft. The power on Ford comes direct from engine thru transmission. Depending on your truck size or more important space under truck will dictate what you install.

RealPower equipment will work with the PTO and 6.7L Diesel. But they only want to sale to for larger trucks f550 and up. Prices Starts at $21,000.

Muncie makes PTO that attaches to the transmission. Chelsea also makes one but after research Muncie is better option. Your truck is pre-wired (if you ordered the PTO) for the PTO but switch will need be installed. The computer should already be programed as well. High idle switch should already come with truck if you have PTO option.
Those with 4x4 may have to make extra modifications. Due space restriction cause by 4x4. PTO can have different gears to increase RPM rate. Max rate 3500 RPM. Normally engine RPM is multiplied with the PTO by 144%.

I'm personally looking to add 4 extra 400amp alternators to the PTO drive. This will allow me to charge a battery bank and very large inverters. Both on my truck and 5th wheel when towing it.

 

[ccw]

I'm personally looking to add 4 extra 400amp alternators to the PTO drive. This will allow me to charge a battery bank and very large inverters. Both on my truck and 5th wheel when towing it.

Im curious, only if you don’t mind answering, how much do you expect the PTO setup with those 4 extra alternators to cost you?

Thus far in my research, it seems like everything for the PTO is a bare minimum of $5000, and easily quite a bit more (as you exemplify with your mention of RealPower starting at $21k). So I’m interested if there’s an accessory that’s not quite as expensive.

 

[BroncOh]

You can also bolt a hydraulic pump to the PTO spot on the transmission and run the lines rearward and have a hydraulically driven generator:

I like this option better than the F150's 'pro' power which relies on consumable Li-ion batteries and a complex system.

Hydraulic Driven Generator - Vanair

www.vanair.com

Vanair_Underdeck_Systems_Brochure_June2020

Vanair Underdeck Systems Brochure

online.fliphtml5.com

 

[Vecman]

RealPower equipment will work with the PTO and 6.7L Diesel. But they only want to sale to for larger trucks f550 and up. Prices Starts at $21,000

He just emailed and said, “chassis only trucks, not pickups”. That would go along with your statement, but it’s hard to believe a 7kw generator would be $21k, and that also seems like a pretty weak size for a commercial use. But, either way, they aren’t an option so I need to find something different

 

[BroncOh]

He just emailed and said, “chassis only trucks, not pickups”. That would go along with your statement, but it’s hard to believe a 7kw generator would be $21k, and that also seems like a pretty weak size for a commercial use. But, either way, they aren’t an option so I need to find something different

Please see my post above yours for a potential, better solution than realpower

 

[BroncOh]

Woah, this also looks cool, from Vanair.

 

[Vecman]

Please see my post above yours for a potential, better solution than realpower

I’ve seen them. Good possibility. I just need to see how the end interface is for use. That’s the part I love about the pro power from Ford. That in bed power panel is nice. I can’t seem to find what their interface looks like.

 

[BroncOh]

I’ve seen them. Good possibility. I just need to see how the end interface is for use. That’s the part I love about the pro power from Ford. That in bed power panel is nice. I can’t seem to find what their interface looks like.

See if you can get a quote for the 8.5KW Hydraulic Vanair and post back. Very curious about the price. I think I will order next truck with PTO if it makes sense.

 

[mattdm]

I believe the PTO prep simply gives you a different transmission case that has a blank plate that can be removed for a PTO device to be installed.

There is no PTO itself installed from the factory(no PTO Device, no buttons or extra controls in the dash, no extra wires, etc), that would be up to the customer (or a truck upfitter) to install and configure. There are many different styles and configurations of PTO you could mount depending on your needs.

Most regular pickup trucks have no reason for a PTO. A belt driven air compressor(Vmac) or generator are much more cost effective and serve the exact same purpose.(an electric air compressor is usually plenty for most private pickup users). The most common use of a PTO is to drive a Hydraulic pump to run like a tow truck bed or a dump box or a crane, etc.

 

[CM1995]

Just went to configure a Tremor with 6.7 on SD Build and Price. The configurator will not let you pick a Tremor 6.7 with a PTO option, it says you have to pick a 7.3.

Is this like other items where the dealer has different order configurations like PRB's on a Platinum Tremor?

 

[Vecman]

Just went to configure a Tremor with 6.7 on SD Build and Price. The configurator will not let you pick a Tremor 6.7 with a PTO option, it says you have to pick a 7.3.

Is this like other items where the dealer has different order configurations like PRB's on a Platinum Tremor?

The online configuration tool would never let me choose platinum 6.7 with PTO, but it let me choose lariat 6.7 with PTO. Online doesn’t matter. You can add it to either engine and trim no issue at the dealer. And yes, just like power running boards aren’t selectable, no issue with getting those for a platinum tremor when ordering at the dealer.

 

[CM1995]

The online configuration tool would never let me choose platinum 6.7 with PTO, but it let me choose lariat 6.7 with PTO. Online doesn’t matter. You can add it to either engine and trim no issue at the dealer. And yes, just like power running boards aren’t selectable, no issue with getting those for a platinum tremor when ordering at the dealer.

Thanks - thought it was the same. I ordered PRB's on my Plat. but the dealer had to do it.

 

[ECC]

Im curious, only if you don’t mind answering, how much do you expect the PTO setup with those 4 extra alternators to cost you?

Thus far in my research, it seems like everything for the PTO is a bare minimum of $5000, and easily quite a bit more (as you exemplify with your mention of RealPower starting at $21k). So I’m interested if there’s an accessory that’s not quite as expensive.

So far the PTO part itself is about $4,000 depending on configuration. Looks like I will not need all 4 alternators. Looks like 1 or 2 will work if I use lithium batteries instead of lead. Lithium only need 50amps for charging properly. Alternators (400amps) are about $599 depending on brand. But I have some smaller ones currently not being used. Will need shaft and will need to build bracket to hold alternators. I also seen where someone else it taken an old inverter generator head connecting that to the PTO. Will have to look into that a little more.

 

[ECC]

I believe the PTO prep simply gives you a different transmission case that has a blank plate that can be removed for a PTO device to be installed.

There is no PTO itself installed from the factory(no PTO Device, no buttons or extra controls in the dash, no extra wires, etc), that would be up to the customer (or a truck upfitter) to install and configure. There are many different styles and configurations of PTO you could mount depending on your needs.

Most regular pickup trucks have no reason for a PTO. A belt driven air compressor(Vmac) or generator are much more cost effective and serve the exact same purpose.(an electric air compressor is usually plenty for most private pickup users). The most common use of a PTO is to drive a Hydraulic pump to run like a tow truck bed or a dump box or a crane, etc.

Your correct PTO on prep. Install is simply 10 bolts. Take off cover plate and install PTO. PTO drive for 2020 to 2022 is expensive $4,000. Older models $800 or less. Belt driven in engine compartment won't work with 6.7l. no space available. Up side for PTO everything under truck. Does not take up bed space.

 

[ccw]

So far the PTO part itself is about $4,000 depending on configuration. Looks like I will not need all 4 alternators. Looks like 1 or 2 will work if I use lithium batteries instead of lead. Lithium only need 50amps for charging properly. Alternators (400amps) are about $599 depending on brand. But I have some smaller ones currently not being used. Will need shaft and will need to build bracket to hold alternators. I also seen where someone else it taken an old inverter generator head connecting that to the PTO. Will have to look into that a little more.

Thanks for the details! That’s super helpful. Crazy that the PTO drive is so expensive on its own.

 

[BroncOh]

Here's the Muncie installation instructions. Looks very easy.

https://www.munciepower.com/cms/files/Products/Literature/Documents/Install/IN19-04_F20_10-Bolt_Install.pdf