Dump Trailers

[BlueKilla]

Great suggestion. Thanks. Unfortunately looks like the payload is only #11055 on that one.

My excavator is 11366# without a bucket. With a typical implement payload it's just under 12400#. Ideal trailer would support that, but at least the excavator and a bucket (11500-12K range.)

How'd you calc the payload? I didn't see the weight listed. Try CH8020082 - it sits at 16k GVWR

 

[BlueKilla]

Great suggestion. Thanks. Unfortunately looks like the payload is only #11055 on that one.

My excavator is 11366# without a bucket. With a typical implement payload it's just under 12400#. Ideal trailer would support that, but at least the excavator and a bucket (11500-12K range.)

Got one - Llamar h6 equipment hauler. 83x20', 16k gvwr and 12,940 payload. I'm guessing the load trail I listed above is similar.

 

[2020Tremor]

Yea they were about 10K new but steal prices are going up so everybody’s upping their prices you could probably get by with the original one you posted and if you’re not going to spread rock you would be fine with the other barn doors just make sure whichever one you get has the rear drop legs for loading equipment so it doesn’t lift your truck up when loading

I have also heard of bending the rear axle of the trailer with bigger tracked machines without rear legs so very important on the dump.

I am also in the market for a dump and most trailers I have looked at are around 4K+ lbs trailer weight for conventional tow goose necks much heavier that are stocked at dealerships. I do see many manufacturers make lighter versions to maximize payload but have not come across one. A equipment trailer usually will get you a better payload but not as versatile in my opinion. If loading and unloading frequently a equipment trailer is definitely more convenient. I have hauled rentals and my tractor in both equipment trailers as well as dumps and would not want to load equipment in a dump multiple times a day throughout the week. If just hauling occasionally personally like the dump. I was shocked how much use my old dump got, just waiting on the area dealers to get bigger goose dumps before I pull the trigger on a new one.

In my area 10K price tag for a new conventional dump is getting harder and harder to find with the rising material costs. Some of the more optioned equipment trailers are breaking that mark as well.

 

[Cococounty]

I have also heard of bending the rear axle of the trailer with bigger tracked machines without rear legs so very important on the dump.

I am also in the market for a dump and most trailers I have looked at are around 4K+ lbs trailer weight for conventional tow goose necks much heavier that are stocked at dealerships. I do see many manufacturers make lighter versions to maximize payload but have not come across one. A equipment trailer usually will get you a better payload but not as versatile in my opinion. If loading and unloading frequently a equipment trailer is definitely more convenient. I have hauled rentals and my tractor in both equipment trailers as well as dumps and would not want to load equipment in a dump multiple times a day throughout the week. If just hauling occasionally personally like the dump. I was shocked how much use my old dump got, just waiting on the area dealers to get bigger goose dumps before I pull the trigger on a new one.

In my area 10K price tag for a new conventional dump is getting harder and harder to find with the rising material costs. Some of the more optioned equipment trailers are breaking that mark as well.

Goose neck definitely seems like the Way to go if you’re hauling a lot my brother-in-law has masticators on all of his bobcats and has a large gooseneck dump and a large gooseneck flatbed he has no problem towing with them seem to be way more stable than a bumper pull hard to find the perfect trailer A lot of these machines are getting wider and will not fit in dump trailers

 

[Cococounty]

I have also heard of bending the rear axle of the trailer with bigger tracked machines without rear legs so very important on the dump.

I am also in the market for a dump and most trailers I have looked at are around 4K+ lbs trailer weight for conventional tow goose necks much heavier that are stocked at dealerships. I do see many manufacturers make lighter versions to maximize payload but have not come across one. A equipment trailer usually will get you a better payload but not as versatile in my opinion. If loading and unloading frequently a equipment trailer is definitely more convenient. I have hauled rentals and my tractor in both equipment trailers as well as dumps and would not want to load equipment in a dump multiple times a day throughout the week. If just hauling occasionally personally like the dump. I was shocked how much use my old dump got, just waiting on the area dealers to get bigger goose dumps before I pull the trigger on a new one.

In my area 10K price tag for a new conventional dump is getting harder and harder to find with the rising material costs. Some of the more optioned equipment trailers are breaking that mark as well.

Friend of mine‘s boss was loading his Kabota tractor on his equipment trailer with no rear legs he went for a wild ride down his driveway totaled the truck and trailer and I’m pretty sure a pair of underwear but the Kabota was fine

 

[oops]

How'd you calc the payload? I didn't see the weight listed. Try CH8020082 - it sits at 16k GVWR

I looked at these pages:

2021 Load Trail CH8320072 20' Equipment Trailer

<p>New Load Trail 20' Equipment Trailer Rated at 14000 LB GVWR. <br />83" x 20' Tandem Axle <br></p><ul><li>6" Channel Frame</li><li>2, 7,000 Lb Dexter Spring Axles (Brakes on all 4 wheels)</li><li>ST235/80 R16 LRE 10 Ply.</li><li>Coupler 2-5/16" Adjustable (4 HOLE)</li><li>Treated Wo

inventory.loadtrail.com

20X083 Load Trail Gray Carhauler Fold Up Ramps CH8320082

<p><br />CASH PRICES, CREDIT CARD is SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL FEES, SOME PRICES MAY NOT INCLUDE FREIGHT, ITEMS MAY BE SPECIAL ORDER, CALL AHEAD TO VERIFY INVENTORY <br /><br /><a href="https://www.facebook.com/busenbarktrailers/">https://www.facebook.com/busenbarktrailers/</a> <br /><br />6" CHANN

inventory.loadtrail.com

Their site is confusing though, I'll take a closer look.

Got one - Llamar h6 equipment hauler. 83x20', 16k gvwr and 12,940 payload. I'm guessing the load trail I listed above is similar.

Great find! The Llamar looks perfect.

A little pricey. Only one in stock near me is $10k. Bumper pull equipment trailers of this size are usually around $6k out here. I wonder what makes this one so premium.

 

[oops]

I have also heard of bending the rear axle of the trailer with bigger tracked machines without rear legs so very important on the dump.

I am also in the market for a dump and most trailers I have looked at are around 4K+ lbs trailer weight for conventional tow goose necks much heavier that are stocked at dealerships. I do see many manufacturers make lighter versions to maximize payload but have not come across one. A equipment trailer usually will get you a better payload but not as versatile in my opinion. If loading and unloading frequently a equipment trailer is definitely more convenient. I have hauled rentals and my tractor in both equipment trailers as well as dumps and would not want to load equipment in a dump multiple times a day throughout the week. If just hauling occasionally personally like the dump. I was shocked how much use my old dump got, just waiting on the area dealers to get bigger goose dumps before I pull the trigger on a new one.

In my area 10K price tag for a new conventional dump is getting harder and harder to find with the rising material costs. Some of the more optioned equipment trailers are breaking that mark as well.

Take a look at the Southland!

It has built in rear jack legs. I can load my U48-5 on it. It fits. Just a tight squeeze.

All it's missing is the rear spreader doors.

 

[ECHO-24]

I have a Big Tex 14LP, payload is only 9750 pounds due to all the thick frame rails I'm guessing.
Hate the D-rings in the bottom of the bed, debris gets caught in them constantly. Rear drop legs are critical when loading heavier equipment.

 

[oops]

Goose neck definitely seems like the Way to go if you’re hauling a lot my brother-in-law has masticators on all of his bobcats and has a large gooseneck dump and a large gooseneck flatbed he has no problem towing with them seem to be way more stable than a bumper pull hard to find the perfect trailer A lot of these machines are getting wider and will not fit in dump trailers

I tend to prefer bumper pull for versatility. I can move them around with a UTV or SUV. And I can pull them with a dump truck need be. And I can put a 4.5" Carli lift on my truck if I find a bag of cash lying around.

If I were ever pulling dozers or large excavators (over 15k#), gooseneck would be more attractive.

Almost all compact equipment tops out at 12-13k# though.

 

[oops]

I have a Big Tex 14LP, payload is only 9750 pounds due to all the thick frame rails I'm guessing.
Hate the D-rings in the bottom of the bed, debris gets caught in them constantly. Rear drop legs are critical when loading heavier equipment.

It's amazing how heavy Big Tex's trailers are. But they can take a beating.

The Southland I got has the D-Rings on the bottom too. Very unfortunate. Part of what makes loading larger equipment on it a bit of a puzzle.

 

[ECHO-24]

Southland has the best tub I have seen, one piece, Mine looks like it was put together at a welding school for the seeing impaired!

 

[BlueKilla]

I looked at these pages:

2021 Load Trail CH8320072 20' Equipment Trailer

<p>New Load Trail 20' Equipment Trailer Rated at 14000 LB GVWR. <br />83" x 20' Tandem Axle <br></p><ul><li>6" Channel Frame</li><li>2, 7,000 Lb Dexter Spring Axles (Brakes on all 4 wheels)</li><li>ST235/80 R16 LRE 10 Ply.</li><li>Coupler 2-5/16" Adjustable (4 HOLE)</li><li>Treated Wo

inventory.loadtrail.com

20X083 Load Trail Gray Carhauler Fold Up Ramps CH8320082

<p><br />CASH PRICES, CREDIT CARD is SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL FEES, SOME PRICES MAY NOT INCLUDE FREIGHT, ITEMS MAY BE SPECIAL ORDER, CALL AHEAD TO VERIFY INVENTORY <br /><br /><a href="https://www.facebook.com/busenbarktrailers/">https://www.facebook.com/busenbarktrailers/</a> <br /><br />6" CHANN

inventory.loadtrail.com

Their site is confusing though, I'll take a closer look.



Great find! The Llamar looks perfect.

A little pricey. Only one in stock near me is $10k. Bumper pull equipment trailers of this size are usually around $6k out here. I wonder what makes this one so premium.

The unicorn payload The adjustable hitch on it is pretty cool too, never seen that on a trailer before.

 

[oops]

Southland has the best tub I have seen, one piece, Mine looks like it was put together at a welding school for the seeing impaired!

It is really well engineered. I'm super impressed with the design. Canadian's know how to do it I guess.

But, the trade-off is it is pretty thin gauge steel. Gets pocked up pretty easily. I'm still babying it by putting in the first layer of debris in very gently, before dumping shit in.

 

[ECHO-24]

The unicorn payload The adjustable hitch on it is pretty cool too, never seen that on a trailer before.

My dump trailer has the adjustable hitch, its great to get the trailer level.

 

[ECHO-24]

It is really well engineered. I'm super impressed with the design. Canadian's know how to do it I guess.

But, the trade-off is it is pretty thin gauge steel. Gets pocked up pretty easily. I'm still babying it by putting in the first layer of debris in very gently, before dumping shit in.

yeah, I'd like to see how they form the tub. and they also think about weight, like the aluminum ramps and control box.

 

[oops]

The adjustable hitch on it is pretty cool too, never seen that on a trailer before.

The coupler channel you mean?

 

[BlueKilla]

The coupler channel you mean?

That's right, sorry my trailer nomenclature is lacking

 

[Suncoast]

I own a 7x14 SureTrac. They seem quality built and are made in Indiana. They come standard with barn door and spreader gate combo. Mine is the front mount single hydraulic ram. There’s multiple options for rams. Single, dual, scissor. I choose the one that huge dump trucks use. Most use a single large cylinder mounted toward the front. The SureTrac is a beast. All powder coat finish and LED lighting. Also comes standard with a battery charger that charges the battery as you drive. Nice units. Brand new this was around 10k with the spare.

 

[oops]

That's right, sorry my trailer nomenclature is lacking

Ah, yeah, just clarifying. Wasn't sure if I was missing something.

A coupler channel is a must on any trailer, IMO. With these trucks especially. Not just for adjustability, but for security:

I connect my coupler to the trailer with hitch pins, and then store it on the truck when the trailer is not in use, while putting (usually) a couple of locks on the coupler channel to keep honest people honest.

This gives me peace of mind, at least, but also makes it easy to hop between trailers. I've always got the same coupler, and I can always adjust it for whatever vehicle or hitch I've got on hand at the time.

 

[oops]

I own a 7x14 SureTrac. They seem quality built and are made in Indiana. They come standard with barn door and spreader gate combo. Mine is the front mount single hydraulic ram. There’s multiple options for rams. Single, dual, scissor. I choose the one that huge dump trucks use. Most use a single large cylinder mounted toward the front. The SureTrac is a beast. All powder coat finish and LED lighting. Also comes standard with a battery charger that charges the battery ad you drive. Nice units.

Nice rig. That lift is legit.