Another thing to note is the pinbox on your rig and the equalizers on the axles can make a significant difference in the towing experience if your on rougher roads. I have a morryde pinbox and morryde equalizers on my axles along with Firestone 7500# bags on my truck and don’t have any chucking or bucking on any roads that I have come across.
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I have the airlift 5000 ultimate bags. Tongue weight is about 2900lbs empty. Haven't had a chance to weigh it loaded up with the sxs in the back. 2000 lbs sitting right at the back should take off a bit of pin weight.
Look at the new Curt Crosswing Fifth shell...5 inch offset with industry standard rails and 9 inch offset with Gooseball attachment
Fifth wheel…20k rating
Still awaiting Ford oem setup
If going the gooseneck,
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If going with either I'd get this to get an extra 5" as well. Because I have the turnover system vs oem I am using the B&W 4.5" extension. While not being able to do a complete 90, I still get pretty close and have no issues as long as I pay attention. I really don't like have to put that stress on the trailer anyway.
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I’d be curious to know if anyone has gone from a pro pride 3p bumper pull setup to a 5th wheel and how much of a difference it made?
Exactly the set up I have and exactly how I install mine when needed.I’ve been using the B&W companion that slides into their turnover ball mount, which I used on the last truck. I just received the gooseneck turnover ball mount for the new truck and will be finishing that installation tomorrow.
lifting heavy things in and out of the truck like the 5th wheel hitch, I use the front end loader on my tractor or an engine cherry picker.
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You could just put your kids to work (for those so inclined):
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Just posted this in the camper thread last night. I just installed a Pullrite Superglide #2914 yesterday. That's their 20k lb model for the Ford puck system. I would've liked to be able to have used the 16K model (lighter and cheaper), but my camper grosses at just under 17K lbs. It fits well and looks like it will work great without needing to remove the tonneau cover.
It has what I consider to be a surprisingly small footprint and comes in at 265 lb.
I think the plate height is just right for my setup, which is a good thing, because this hitch has no height adjustment. The only available height adjustment would be on the pin box side.
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It has what I consider to be a surprisingly small footprint and comes in at 265 lb.
I think the plate height is just right for my setup, which is a good thing, because this hitch has no height adjustment. The only available height adjustment would be on the pin box side.
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- Jul 27, 2021
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- 2018 Indian Roadmaster; 2017 Audi A4
It's worth sharing that I was able to purchase the Superglide with a 20% discount by signing up for a $30 Good Sam membership at Camping World. Their normal price was already competitive at $2086, so this was a no-brainer. Their website will say that the hitch is not eligible for promotions or discounts, but calling my local store directly did the trick. So, if your looking to buy this hitch (or any other that they sell, for that matter), it's worth considering.
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Like a lot of people I use a standard 20k# B&W Companion hitch with the OEM puck system and I think it's great! It's easy to put in and take out and I've not had any clearance issues while backing up my trailer while using it.
Anyone used the Demco Recon. So far I think that’s the way I’m leaning. I want something light enough I can take it out without killing my back.
When we ordered our Grand Designs Momentum 350G I had the dealer switch the fifth wheel to a Reese Gooseneck connection. I often tow to a location and then need the space in the bed of the truck for hauling various items (dirt bikes, surfboards, chairs etc.) I'm really glad I did.
I've never had a fifth wheel prior to this setup so I can't compare the two. The one thing I do miss is where some of the fifth wheel options on the market can slide when you're pulling in to tight spots. This comes up with the Tremor short bed and needing to watch so that the trailer doesn't bump the cab when needing to get closer to a 90 degree turn. I can only do about 45 degrees when pulling in to a spot.
I thought about doing airbags but haven't had an issue with too much squat.
I was surprised that with the height of the Tremor that my trailer would have a little rake connected in the bed of the truck. Turns out the trailer is perfectly level. Makes me wonder had I not done a Tremor if the trailer would be a little low towards the front.
I've never had a fifth wheel prior to this setup so I can't compare the two. The one thing I do miss is where some of the fifth wheel options on the market can slide when you're pulling in to tight spots. This comes up with the Tremor short bed and needing to watch so that the trailer doesn't bump the cab when needing to get closer to a 90 degree turn. I can only do about 45 degrees when pulling in to a spot.
I thought about doing airbags but haven't had an issue with too much squat.
I was surprised that with the height of the Tremor that my trailer would have a little rake connected in the bed of the truck. Turns out the trailer is perfectly level. Makes me wonder had I not done a Tremor if the trailer would be a little low towards the front.
If you have the b&w turnover hitch get B&W's 4.5" extended ball.
If factory look at the link I posted earlier to move. It back 5". It will help a lot.
Thanks for the tip. There were two packages when we ordered our 2022 Tremor that would have forced us to wait even longer than the 9 months we did to receive our truck. The two items were the spray-in bed liner, which was part of the black appearance package (really wanted that), and the fifth wheel/gooseneck package. Ford said it would have probably taken another 4 months for these two. We did a B&W aftermarket as a result on the towing. That 4.5" extender looks great. Thanks for the tip.
That's what I run as well. Here's the link that I purchased from Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B007F9FMSO?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_title
It also looks like I was wrong about 4.5 as it is really 4". It still made a good difference for me though.
Guys this is great info for me as I am considering switching from a bumper pull toy hauler to a 5th wheel toy hauler. However, I don't know anything about 5th wheels and towing them. I would say half of my camping will be boondocking in MT and the other half would be campgrounds with hookups. Why do some of you prefer the gooseneck style of hook up over the traditional 5th wheel style hitch. I understand the traditional hitch is much heavier and takes up more room but are there major towing differences between the two? Just trying to educate myself before I get too far down the rabbit hole. Any insight is greatly appreciated.
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I have had traditional fifth wheel hitches (slider and non-slider) in the past, but I went with the Goosebox on my GD Solutide 380FL, which has an empty TW of 3000 lbs. I have the B&W Turnover mount in my truck and the 4” offset ball in my bed weighs 15 lbs vs 280 lbs for the B&W Companion Slider. The weight savings alone was a huge factor in my decision.
I can put my ball in and hook up my camper by myself without using an engine hoist or front loader to put my slider in. I set my camper to hitch height, use my in-bed camera to line things up, and drop the Goosebox hitch right onto the ball. The chains are easy to attach when you have an Amp Research bumper step on the driver side, so that is not an issue for me either.
With the 4” offset ball, I have never had an issue backing into spots with tight clearances, so I really do not miss the slider.
TX-Tremor6.7....thank you for the reply. That makes sense and is a huge weight savings. Do you notice a difference in the towing stability going from the slider to the goosebox?
I've noticed less chucking with the goosebox versus the b&w slider. My only downside with the goosebox is the inconvenience of hooking up the chains. It's not a big deal but worth mentioning. I'd go goosebox again without a doubt.
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Like @mds2004 mentioned, I have had less chucking with my Goosebox and it tows very easily over uneven road surfaces. Their Air Coupler, which is like an airbag inside the hitch head, allows you to adjust the height within a small window, but it also provides a smoother ride on the highway. I have the 20K version, but I think they also have a smaller one available for lighter fifth wheels.
After one or two camping trips of climbing in the back over the tailgate, I bought the Amp Research Bed/ Bumper Step for the driver side. Now, it is a whole lot easier to get in and out of the bed to attach the chains while hooked up. I have the factory tailgate step, but it is not usable while towing. I rarely use the tailgate step even when I am not towing, as the bumper step is so much easier.
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