Gorilla Conical Lugs and Flat Face adapters

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As some of you may know the only real option for lugnuts with flat face washer style for our stock wheels are cheap Amazon lugnuts that rust out after a year or the ford direct replacement which is still susceptible to swelling.

I’ve been using gorilla lugs on my cars and trucks for 15+ years and have always had awesome luck with them! Especially in the great white rust belt.

Gorilla doesn’t make any lugs that are flat seat or mag type. All are mainly conical 60° lugs.

HOWEVER

What some of you may not know is that gorilla makes a washer/adapter to use 60° conical lugs with our OEM style of wheels that use flat face lugs.

Tl;dr?
Found a way to use conical lugs on our OE wheels that use flat face lugs/w. Washer

Gorilla Black Lugs M14x1.5
Part # GOR-26148BC
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Gorilla 60° to Flat Face Adapter Washer
Part # GOR - 79916
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Update on the cover fitment 1/14/23

Hub covers do not snap/clip/hold on without some finesse. The base of the lugs are just a hair too small.

I tried a few different methods to close the gap between the tips of the clips.

I started with needle nose pliers trying to open each bend of the clips individually . That really didn’t do much. Cover popped on but was easy to knock off.

Then I slipped the needle nose into each clip and pried them toward each other. That worked a little bit. Cover was harder to get/pop on and a little harder to pop off. (Wasn’t satisfied)

Then I took a flat head and slid it into each clip individually using the clip against itself to get them to close into the middle which worked best. It takes an actual hammer fist of strength to pop the covers on and a decent amount of pressure to get them off. (Which can be done by hand.)

I’m going to run this one wheel with the lugs and this process for a week or so to see if the cover holds on with everyday driving before I do the other 3.

I think the best way to make the cover work is to do the flathead method which will bring the tangs in and then go back and do the needle nose method which would bring the tips up and in.

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Do they hold the oem tremor wheel center cap on?
 
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Do they hold the oem tremor wheel center cap on?

That’s a good question, that I can’t answer at the moment but I’ll know tomorrow. I don’t see it being an issue with the base of the lug still being a similar size. But I’ll report back tomorrow.
 
Would have been great if the adapter itself was black, but i assume if one uses Ford center caps it’s hidden inside and not visible.

Would be nice to see the end result. Do you plan to install all 32 on your rig?
 
Would have been great if the adapter itself was black, but i assume if one uses Ford center caps it’s hidden inside and not visible.

Yea, you won’t see them with the caps anyways. There are black ones out there but they aren’t from gorilla.
 
I wasn't aware that these existed, good to know. The OE lug nuts have a lip/ledge where the cladding ends, before the base that allows the center cap to clip on. Unless this combo creates the same type of ledge, I wouldn't expect the center caps to attach.
 

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I wasn't aware that these existed, good to know. The OE lug nuts have a lip/ledge where the cladding ends, before the base that allows the center cap to clip on. Unless this combo creates the same type of ledge, I wouldn't expect the center caps to attach.
Yea that’s understood on how they hold the cover on. This is what makes me believe it (may) work. However that’s just speculation. I’ll check it out tomorrow. If it doesn’t work I’m sure there’s a way I can make it work.

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Another advantage, if these work, is if you switch to aftermarket wheels at some point the gorilla lugs will still work (minus the washers). (y)
 
Hopefully these work for you since I was bugging my truck parts guy about finding some locking lug nuts since I’ve had gorilla lug nuts on the past two trucks. I’m really surprised to see flat lug nuts on an aluminum wheel like this.
 
This is a nice find. Now I have and intend to keep my stock Tremor wheels, but I don't use the caps. I now have the "cheap" lugs off Amazon and they do not hold up. See below. Now the washers you have found could be painted, and since sockets or impacts don't touch them, the paint may last. Nice find and thanks for sharing.
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Update on this.

Hub covers do not snap/clip/hold on without some finesse. The base of the lugs are just a hair too small.

I tried a few different methods to close the gap between the tips of the clips.

I started with needle nose pliers trying to open each bend of the clips individually . That really didn’t do much. Cover popped on but was easy to knock off.

Then I slipped the needle nose into each clip and pried them toward each other. That worked a little bit. Cover was harder to get/pop on and a little harder to pop off. (Wasn’t satisfied)

Then I took a flat head and slid it into each clip individually using the clip against itself to get them to close into the middle which worked best. It takes an actual hammer fist of strength to pop the covers on and a decent amount of pressure to get them off. (Which can be done by hand.)

I’m going to run this one wheel with the lugs and this process for a week or so to see if the cover holds on with everyday driving before I do the other 3.

I think the best way to make the cover work is to do the flathead method which will bring the tangs in and then go back and do the needle nose method which would bring the tips up and in.
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As some of you may know the only real option for lugnuts with flat face washer style for our stock wheels are cheap Amazon lugnuts that rust out after a year or the ford direct replacement which is still susceptible to swelling.

I’ve been using gorilla lugs on my cars and trucks for 15+ years and have always had awesome luck with them! Especially in the great white rust belt.

Gorilla doesn’t make any lugs that are flat seat or mag type. All are mainly conical 60° lugs.

HOWEVER

What some of you may not know is that gorilla makes a washer/adapter to use 60° conical lugs with our OEM style of wheels that use flat face lugs.

Tl;dr?
Found a way to use conical lugs on our OE wheels that use flat face lugs/w. Washer

Gorilla Black Lugs M14x1.5
Part # GOR-26148BC
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Gorilla 60° to Flat Face Adapter Washer
Part # GOR - 79916
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As some of you may know the only real option for lugnuts with flat face washer style for our stock wheels are cheap Amazon lugnuts that rust out after a year or the ford direct replacement which is still susceptible to swelling.

I’ve been using gorilla lugs on my cars and trucks for 15+ years and have always had awesome luck with them! Especially in the great white rust belt.

Gorilla doesn’t make any lugs that are flat seat or mag type. All are mainly conical 60° lugs.

HOWEVER

What some of you may not know is that gorilla makes a washer/adapter to use 60° conical lugs with our OEM style of wheels that use flat face lugs.

Tl;dr?
Found a way to use conical lugs on our OE wheels that use flat face lugs/w. Washer

Gorilla Black Lugs M14x1.5
Part # GOR-26148BC
View attachment 109470

Gorilla 60° to Flat Face Adapter Washer
Part # GOR - 79916
View attachment 109471

View attachment 109472View attachment 109473
 
Great write up! Where did you order your lugs from? How much? Are they purchased as single units or packs? Thank you.
 
Great write up! Where did you order your lugs from? How much? Are they purchased as single units or packs? Thank you.

I purchased them from Summit racing. 32 individually, washers and lugs separately.

But you can order through gorilla themselves in xxx qty packages. You’ll just have to buy the key/socket separately unless you already have one like I did.

I think rough country makes or sells a set of 32 lugs with key/socket for around 40$ as well. Not sure on the brand they use though.
 
I purchased them from Summit racing. 32 individually, washers and lugs separately.

But you can order through gorilla themselves in xxx qty packages. You’ll just have to buy the key/socket separately unless you already have one like I did.

I think rough country makes or sells a set of 32 lugs with key/socket for around 40$ as well. Not sure on the brand they use though.
How much apiece from summit for the lugs? Thanks
 
This is what I paid. Honestly could probably find them cheaper especially in a 32 count package. I honestly didn’t look very hard lol.

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This is what I paid. Honestly could probably find them cheaper especially in a 32 count package. I honestly didn’t look very hard lol.

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Yes, but this is quality stuff and they won't show nearly as much wear when a impact is used. Also I have looked can't find anyone selling a 32 pack. I'm gonna paint the washers black.
 
Yes, but this is quality stuff and they won't show nearly as much wear when a impact is used. Also I have looked can't find anyone selling a 32 pack. I'm gonna paint the washers black.

Just did a quick search and looks like you can get a 32 pack of the gorilla lugs on Amazon for 60$

Gorilla Automotive 26145BC Duplex Black Chrome Lug Nut - 14-Millimeter by 1.5 Thread Size - 32 Pack https://a.co/d/0l4hopD
 
Been doing some light reading and research.
I was curious to see if the base of their regular hex lugs (part #14150BGR) had a different size (larger) base to them. From what I’ve found it appears they do. The splined lugs have a base bump out measurement of around .915” and from research the hex lugs have a base bump out width of 1.06” it’s about an 1/8” difference but that’ll give you a little bit of a wider taper to grab onto with the clips on the covers.

Regular hex lugs

For reference the base of the stock lug where the cover snaps over is around 1.2”.

So really with the conical adapter/washer it opens up finding a reputable lug that has that base dimension of around 1.2” and you won’t even need to mess with the tabs for the wheel cover.

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