I Spy... with my little eye | 2023 SD Thread

VB! · Nov 15, 2022

TxAg7 said:
I like the 23s and I have ordered a 2023 F 350 Tremor Lariat. Did the new design jump out at me immediately like when the 17s came out, no it did not. But some of the new design I do like...to me its almost like they took the truck from the 90s (which was awesome) and modernized it. It is different from the current trucks we have which are awesome, but I do also like the 2023s and anxious to get mine.
Concerning the bed step and bumper step though, while I do see the practicality of it, it definitely hurts the look and clean appearance of the truck. Ford could offer a "bed step delete option" and charge for it and probably make a lot of extra $. I currently stand one foot on the tire and one foot on the running boards to reach up and over the bed side. I remember always looking at the bumper on chevy trucks and wondering why if a guy could step to the lower part of his bumper, why he couldn't just lift his foot 3 inches higher and step on the top of the bumper??? Am I just insensitive to little people out there that need the 3 inch lower bumper step?

Insensitive? Somewhere, a Millennial is sitting in their safe space, having a good cry, eating avocado toast, and petting his man bun and therapy puppy because of your post.

I'm 6'-1" and am looking forward to the steps. Age has a way of changing one's perspective on the need for things like bed steps. I will not lower my running boards or get the electric ones though. A man has to draw the line someplace.

A factory delete seems overly complicated for a company that says they're trying to streamline the options offered. I foresee an aftermarket side step delete with a color matched panel and lockable compartment in that space being useful for some. It might even work for the bumper corners.

rawltide · Nov 15, 2022

VB! said:
Insensitive? Somewhere, a Millennial is sitting in their safe space, having a good cry, eating avocado toast, and petting his man bun and therapy puppy because of your post.

I'm 6'-1" and am looking forward to the steps. Age has a way of changing one's perspective on the need for things like bed steps. I will not lower my running boards or get the electric ones though. A man has to draw the line someplace.

A factory delete seems overly complicated for a company that says they're trying to streamline the options offered. I foresee an aftermarket side step delete with a color matched panel and lockable compartment in that space being useful for some. It might even work for the bumper corners.

Really hoping the aftermarket offers will fix the black panels around the side steps.

TxAg7 · Nov 15, 2022

VB! said:
I foresee an aftermarket side step delete with a color matched panel and lockable compartment in that space being useful for some. It might even work for the bumper corners.

I could get on board with this

Birdhunter39 · Nov 16, 2022

So ugly. A face only a mother could love.

JHForman812 · Nov 16, 2022

when they first revealed the grille, I was ready to order but once they showed the whole thing I was pretty let down. The front of the truck looks droopy and sad. the 2020-2022 looks big and aggressive! im not sure what part of the truck makes it look this way to me. I was on board with the grille, but the headlights just look kinda goofy, the bed steps were a good idea but poor execution. The interior gets a thumbs up from me, its a nice evolution of our current interior. The wheels choices are pretty damn terrible, then to top it off adding 4 foot side vents was a terrible idea! hopefully after some people body match the color they wont look so ridiculous! Ford really coulda took some styling cues from the F150 especially in the light/fog light department. the super duty kinda looks like Mater from cars.

rawltide · Nov 16, 2022

JHForman812 said:
when they first revealed the grille, I was ready to order but once they showed the whole thing I was pretty let down. The front of the truck looks droopy and sad. the 2020-2022 looks big and aggressive! im not sure what part of the truck makes it look this way to me. I was on board with the grille, but the headlights just look kinda goofy, the bed steps were a good idea but poor execution. The interior gets a thumbs up from me, its a nice evolution of our current interior. The wheels choices are pretty damn terrible, then to top it off adding 4 foot side vents was a terrible idea! hopefully after some people body match the color they wont look so ridiculous! Ford really coulda took some styling cues from the F150 especially in the light/fog light department. the super duty kinda looks like Mater from cars.

I'd hardly say they were poor execution because I'd argue they didn't execute anything other than stealing CAD files from GM

The wheel options are terrible though.

JHForman812 · Nov 16, 2022

rawltide said:
I'd hardly say they were poor execution because I'd argue they didn't execute anything other than stealing CAD files from GM

The wheel options are terrible though.

thats my point, they steal a design and dont bother improving on it? same for the steps in the bumper, why do they gotta stick out so damn far.

rawltide · Nov 16, 2022

JHForman812 said:
thats my point, they steal a design and dont bother improving on it? same for the steps in the bumper, why do they gotta stick out so damn far.

I don’t think the bumper steps look bad but the side steps need to be upgraded

MiTremor906 · Nov 16, 2022

JHForman812 said:
when they first revealed the grille, I was ready to order but once they showed the whole thing I was pretty let down. The front of the truck looks droopy and sad. the 2020-2022 looks big and aggressive! im not sure what part of the truck makes it look this way to me. I was on board with the grille, but the headlights just look kinda goofy, the bed steps were a good idea but poor execution. The interior gets a thumbs up from me, its a nice evolution of our current interior. The wheels choices are pretty damn terrible, then to top it off adding 4 foot side vents was a terrible idea! hopefully after some people body match the color they wont look so ridiculous! Ford really coulda took some styling cues from the F150 especially in the light/fog light department. the super duty kinda looks like Mater from cars.

To me the biggest turn off is the side vent, second is the side step. Don't think the grill is awesome but don't hate it. As others have said when I compare the front to my 22 it doesn't come close.

Good thing I love mine and not interested in trading in even if I loved the design.

Alpoba · Nov 16, 2022

What do you guys think about this sports package grill with Powerstroke diesel model. Is it me or one can see through it 100% and see the radiator and that bare metal pipe towards the top behind it? I've now seen it in maybe 5 different videos with that grill. It think that's just very bad design to no hide something so obvious behind the main visual component of the truck.

TravisB · Nov 18, 2022

I ordered my 23 Platinum Tremor through MAS and this is what my salesman is telling me about future orders:

As of 16 November, the following are closed:
Platinum
Limited
F450s
All tonneau covers

Just wanted to share that with the crowd.

pickleknuckles · Nov 18, 2022

Alpoba said:
What do you guys think about this sports package grill with Powerstroke diesel model. Is it me or one can see through it 100% and see the radiator and that bare metal pipe towards the top behind it? I've now seen it in maybe 5 different videos with that grill. It think that's just very bad design to no hide something so obvious behind the main visual component of the truck.

Seeing it's made to tow at highway speeds, you'd think there'd be a little more protection too given how easily radiator fins get smashed up.

Alpoba · Nov 19, 2022

First pics i ve seen of these side under steps. Looks weird.

Alpoba · Nov 19, 2022

And here’s another pic of the sport package “ see through radiator grill”. WTF is Ford thinking putting a cheap plastic “see my radiator” grill like that on a 90K truck.

Billy Goat · Nov 19, 2022

Alpoba said:
And here’s another pic of the sport package “ see through radiator grill”. WTF is Ford thinking putting a cheap plastic “see my radiator” grill like that on a 90K truck.

That sucks …well…donkey balls. Looks like the cheap ass Chevy fronts…

StrokinOut · Nov 19, 2022

There's a chance the 2020-22 rear bumper could be swapped onto the 23 for those who don't like the bumper steps.

BroncoHooves · Nov 19, 2022

Alpoba said:
First pics i ve seen of these side under steps. Looks weird.

Lol, the tread direction is also wrong on those. (AMP steps have the correct orientation for most grip)

Guest6749 · Nov 20, 2022

I dont mind the "design" of the sport grill, but the openings need to be WAY WAY smaller like the Explorer ST grill. I dont remember when I had my ST going "damn, I can see fucking EVERYTHING behind the grill".

ccw · Nov 20, 2022

Alpoba said:
And here’s another pic of the sport package “ see through radiator grill”. WTF is Ford thinking putting a cheap plastic “see my radiator” grill like that on a 90K truck.

rjacobs said:
I dont mind the "design" of the sport grill, but the openings need to be WAY WAY smaller like the Explorer ST grill. I dont remember when I had my ST going "damn, I can see fucking EVERYTHING behind the grill".

Something the Ford engineers are likely contending with is airflow as they push these super high power and tow ratings. Remember that this same grill needs to function in a maximum tow capacity scenario.

I agree the Explorer grill, with its smaller holes, looks better, but it’s also more restrictive to air flow. Smaller holes means more plastic in front of the radiator.

No idea how big of a factor that is in the new design being so see through, but it’s definitely a factor.

Alpoba · Nov 20, 2022

ccw said:
Something the Ford engineers are likely contending with is airflow as they push these super high power and tow ratings. Remember that this same grill needs to function in a maximum tow capacity scenario.

I agree the Explorer grill, with its smaller holes, looks better, but it’s also more restrictive to air flow. Smaller holes means more plastic in front of the radiator.

No idea how big of a factor that is in the new design being so see through, but it’s definitely a factor.

I understand what you are saying but i dont think its the airflow that is the issue here with this particular grill, i think its just either mediocre or unfinished design. I looked carefully at their other grill options with bars down the middle (used across all trims too, both gas and diesel) and it hides everything behind the grill pretty well. But this “sport” grill version used in 250/350 line does not unfortunately.

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