These people piss me off!!

Sorry, I’m not an engineer and never knew the “e” word could set someone off. My background is primarily as an FAA Airframe & Powerplant Tech.
Not set off in a bad way it just perked my ears a lil bit i work in the Chemical industry,Chlorine and Caustic, i hear that word tossed around alotmostly used by engineers who went to a predominatly liberal school who think they are smart
 
Not set off in a bad way it just perked my ears a lil bit i work in the Chemical industry,Chlorine and Caustic, i hear that word tossed around alotmostly used by engineers who went to a predominatly liberal school who think they are smart
? i’ve got about 10 of those engineers at my work they drive you nuts
 
They drive me nuts,they are the ones who want to do alot of “work” put on a pair of gloves to use a pair of channel lock pliers.
No offense to anyone, but that is what im seeing in the engineering profession now days,smart but has no clue what a wrench or a pair of pliers are,which is sad for this country i also work with a engineer who didnt even know how to tie his shoelaces
 
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Like I said there are engineers who get it and those whose lack the real world experience. The first set help But the others can be boat anchors around your neck! Like that part location that may of seemed great in a CAD drawing but in the real world seems like it was hung from a string and the plane, truck, bike, etc built around it. Best example out of many we had a major redesigned terminal, gate , taxiway area that was impossible to push a wide-body(747, DC10 etc) aircraft without crossing into an adjacent taxiway. We had a meeting with the civil engineer who claimed we just had no clue how to move the aircraft and proceeded to show us on his large scale design map with a scaled ‘47 exactly how his layout was perfect. As soon as he smuggly finished I said, “Ok that does work great.... as long as you provide the crane and giant fingers to pickup the plane and pivot it through that route but real planes don’t turn like that!” He had the RCA dog head tilt. His replacement worked with us to design the fix!
 
No offense to anyone, but that is what im seeing in the engineering profession now days,smart but has no clue what a wrench or a pair of pliers are,which is sad for this country i also work with a engineer who didnt even know how to tie his shoelaces
Back in my college days at Penn State, I had a part time job working for the school, milking cows at the college dairy complex (another set of stories in itself). Once each semester, the college would round up a few of their various farm equipment( mainly tractors, but also front end loaders, skid loaders, and a handful of tow behind or PTO driven farm implements) and we “farm boys” would be tasked with showing the agricultural engineering students what these things are and how they operate. Now mind you most of these students were close to graduating or were in grad school and had NEVER SEEN let alone touched or driven anything that resembled a piece of farm equipment. These people were about to join the ranks of John Deere, Volvo, CAT, and all of the other large equipment companies. It blew my mind that they knew nothing about what they had been leaning about for the past four years. All books and no real world knowledge.
 
Your main engineers now are kids coming out of suburbs and cities, they have no background on working with handtools or any tractors or machinery growing up, skinny jeans and looking like a weirdo lookin to get poked is their main game
 
Back in my college days at Penn State, I had a part time job working for the school, milking cows at the college dairy complex (another set of stories in itself). Once each semester, the college would round up a few of their various farm equipment( mainly tractors, but also front end loaders, skid loaders, and a handful of tow behind or PTO driven farm implements) and we “farm boys” would be tasked with showing the agricultural engineering students what these things are and how they operate. Now mind you most of these students were close to graduating or were in grad school and had NEVER SEEN let alone touched or driven anything that resembled a piece of farm equipment. These people were about to join the ranks of John Deere, Volvo, CAT, and all of the other large equipment companies. It blew my mind that they knew nothing about what they had been leaning about for the past four years. All books and no real world knowledge.
 
Like I said there are engineers who get it and those whose lack the real world experience. The first set help But the others can be boat anchors around your neck! Like that part location that may of seemed great in a CAD drawing but in the real world seems like it was hung from a string and the plane, truck, bike, etc built around it. Best example out of many we had a major redesigned terminal, gate , taxiway area that was impossible to push a wide-body(747, DC10 etc) aircraft without crossing into an adjacent taxiway. We had a meeting with the civil engineer who claimed we just had no clue how to move the aircraft and proceeded to show us on his large scale design map with a scaled ‘47 exactly how his layout was perfect. As soon as he smuggly finished I said, “Ok that does work great.... as long as you provide the crane and giant fingers to pickup the plane and pivot it through that route but real planes don’t turn like that!” He had the RCA dog head tilt. His replacement worked with us to design the fix!
Ah, yes. Engineers. I have had the privilege of working with electrical engineers who are so smart they blow your mind. They are a minority. Then there are most engineers who are competent and are smart enough to know, and admit, what they do know and what they don’t. Unfortunately, there are too many who have no idea. They are lazy and when writing a specification cut and paste previous jobs. So you get one part of the spec contradicting another a paragraph later.

One electrical engineer admitted he didn’t even know what resistance was! Another wanted an insulated earth ring for a lightning protection system. One engineer wanted the down conductor on a lightning protection system to do a 180 degree turn and go back up again. Clearly he had no idea of the voltage of a lightning strike and that nothing on earth can reverse the flow of current of a lightning strike. They were so pig headed, so conceited yet so incredibly stupid. But they had the degree and so their hopelessly flawed design was used. So many were just rubber stampers. They didn’t engineer they just used a flawed design from last time. They couldn’t even do a roof drawing that made sense. You could not tell where the actual roof was. As for mechanics, I found the best mechanics were good race mechanics and good bush mechanics. They knew how to think, how to work out a way of fixing things. Race mechanics often have significant time pressures, bush mechanics have limited resources.
 
Back in my college days at Penn State, I had a part time job working for the school, milking cows at the college dairy complex (another set of stories in itself). Once each semester, the college would round up a few of their various farm equipment( mainly tractors, but also front end loaders, skid loaders, and a handful of tow behind or PTO driven farm implements) and we “farm boys” would be tasked with showing the agricultural engineering students what these things are and how they operate. Now mind you most of these students were close to graduating or were in grad school and had NEVER SEEN let alone touched or driven anything that resembled a piece of farm equipment. These people were about to join the ranks of John Deere, Volvo, CAT, and all of the other large equipment companies. It blew my mind that they knew nothing about what they had been leaning about for the past four years. All books and no real world knowledge.
Interesting. My experience at Clemson AG engineering was quite different and definitely required hands in.
 
I keep reading this thread over and over again and I’m super uncertain if this is to determine that dealership techs suck, or that they’re good.
I’m having some serious issues here in the Chicagoland area finding a trustworthy Ford service center. They’re all pretty meh, and I always try to meet & connect with the techs who work at the dealers before bringing my truck more often.
 
I keep reading this thread over and over again and I’m super uncertain if this is to determine that dealership techs suck, or that they’re good.
I’m having some serious issues here in the Chicagoland area finding a trustworthy Ford service center. They’re all pretty meh, and I always try to meet & connect with the techs who work at the dealers before bringing my truck more often.
Where exactly are you located? I’m also a Senior Master Ford Tech. I’m in NW Indiana.
 
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