Reverse leveling the Tremor

[TexasTremor]

just curious as to why you would want to "reverse level" a Super Duty truck ? Why not buy a Chevrolet/Ford 1/2 ton instead

 

[BigBoyToyz]

just curious as to why you would want to "reverse level" a Super Duty truck ? Why not buy a Chevrolet/Ford 1/2 ton instead

For me it's ....

1) I don't want to mess with the front end geometry by lifting it and deal with the inherent problems of doing so. Also, the lifting of a Super Duty truck usually hurts the capacities more than lowering it.

2) The huge front to rear rake on the Tremor is not pleasing to my eyes

3) I have an 84 inch garage and lifting the front will surely keep me from fitting in it

4) There so soooo soooo many more differences/advantages to an HD truck compared to a 1/2 truck other than just rear end height

5) If I do this I will add air bags to remedy any squat and should keep the "Super Duty" capacities

6) 1/2 truck does not come with a 7.3 Godzilla engine or a 6.7 1050 foot pound diesel

7) 1/2 does not have Tremor package

8) The bed will be lower which will help with ingress and egress out of it.

 

[beastmode]

That looks killer warpath! I can see that truck being featured on a 4x4 off-road magazine cover. Have you thought about more aggressive fender flares?

I reversed leveled my truck. I have 2 kits. One from PMF that is a 1-1/2" spacer and the other is a OUO 7/8" spacer. Currently l have the 7/8" spacer installed. Both spacer have a 2.5* taper to them to keep alignment of the driveshaft. With the 7/8" spacer I have 1-1/2" rake front to back. Lowered the rear 2-1/2". Right now I'm test fitting 37's and I've gained 2" in height.
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[Warpath]

That looks killer warpath! I can see that truck being featured on a 4x4 off-road magazine cover. Have you thought about more aggressive fender flares?

I was, before I saw the Termor package. I like the clean looks of the stock flares, but I also like some bushwacker flares. I need to find some wide mudflaps.

 

[jrdn003]

i am looking for more info on reverse levelling and keeping my tremor stock.
ive seen people putting 2'' block for the rugular 250. but did not see any reviews

 

[aryaagahi]

i am looking for more info on reverse levelling and keeping my tremor stock.
ive seen people putting 2'' block for the rugular 250. but did not see any reviews

I’m thinking of doing the 2” block, how much rake will that leave me on my 250 diesel tremor? I won’t need bags with the 2” block right?
I’m really just trying to drop the rear about an inch

 

[Cwayaustx]

I reversed leveled my truck. I have 2 kits. One from PMF that is a 1-1/2" spacer and the other is a OUO 7/8" spacer. Currently l have the 7/8" spacer installed. Both spacer have a 2.5* taper to them to keep alignment of the driveshaft. With the 7/8" spacer I have 1-1/2" rake front to back. Lowered the rear 2-1/2". Right now I'm test fitting 37's and I've gained 2" in height.
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Curious about this and rubbing. If I can stuff 17x37’s under mine and keep the same height or minimal lift without rubbing I’ll do it in a heartbeat. That’s what’s keeping me from ordering a carli kit now is I just don’t want a bigger truck, been there done that. I want the best ride possible with minimal lift without rubbing. Don’t mind putting airbags for when loaded.

 

[Boarder1995]

The comment above a number of posts about the cautions of block lowering has some incorrect info…
The leaf springs will not be more stressed with shorter blocks. The spring is not getting changed or loaded more at all with this modification. It won’t know the axle is 2” closer. No additional wear or stress in the springs. And axle wrap will actually have less leverage on the springs with a shorter block, thus lower stresses.
The shocks will be at a more compressed static height. This could lead to slightly more wear on them, but as long as they’re not bottoming out, nothing noticeable should occur.

 

[aryaagahi]

The comment above a number of posts about the cautions of block lowering has some incorrect info…
The leaf springs will not be more stressed with shorter blocks. The spring is not getting changed or loaded more at all with this modification. It won’t know the axle is 2” closer. No additional wear or stress in the springs. And axle wrap will actually have less leverage on the springs with a shorter block, thus lower stresses.
The shocks will be at a more compressed static height. This could lead to slightly more wear on them, but as long as they’re not bottoming out, nothing noticeable should occur.

Good info thank you

 

[Birdhunter39]

Any further insight on this? I too am thinking i'll want to go with a 2" block to get slightly better caster and not quite so much rake. Seems to me it will be very close to a non tremor f250 at that point.

 

[donmatteo]

Just get these https://www.pmfsuspension.com/1999-2022-Ford-F-250350-Rear-Lowering-Shackles_p_193.html and call it done.

Swapping blocks on a 250/350 doesn't make a lot of sense. Either get drop shackles or lift the front.

 

[AMTRV]

I've used PMF blocks and they work great, but there is no adjustability. I'll be using the shackles on my '22. I have an ARE camper that'll be coming on and off.....the shackles are simple to adjust.

 

[MarkWattsOregon]

Hey all, been enjoying the discussion.

The question about shorter rear spacers causing issues with spring travel and bottoming out has me confused. If the spacers are under the leaf springs, the only dynamic that changes other than the obvious, should be shock travel and departure clearance? No?

Check out the attached post I found a couple years ago! It's the best presentation I have ever seen on this subject and should answer many of the questions brought up in this post.

Covers the entire Tremor suspension system front to back with great images and notations... "How it works".

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/02/19/2020-ford-tremor-suspension-deep-dive-super-duty-f250/

Great job guys, sharing is how all we get the answers we need

 

[BigBoyToyz]

Hey all, been enjoying the discussion.

The question about shorter rear spacers causing issues with spring travel and bottoming out has me confused. If the spacers are under the leaf springs, the only dynamic that changes other than the obvious, should be shock travel and departure clearance? No?

Check out the attached post I found a couple years ago! It's the best presentation I have ever seen on this subject and should answer many of the questions brought up in this post.

Covers the entire Tremor suspension system front to back with great images and notations... "How it works".

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https://www.autoblog.com/2020/02/19/2020-ford-tremor-suspension-deep-dive-super-duty-f250/

Great job guys, sharing is how all we get the answers we need

That was an early article and had some incorrect information in it. The F250 and F350 with the Tremor package is the same truck except for the door sticker and the emblem on the side of the truck.

 

[Cheyenne10]

any more experiences or updates? What would be best airbag kit to run with PMF blocks? Would love to level out 22 f250 platinum tremor.