That 10K diesel goes back to whether you paid MSRP or not I got 8K off of MSRP so my engine was free ??
So can people that got 8k off of MSRP with a gas say the diesel really costs 16k?
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That 10K diesel goes back to whether you paid MSRP or not I got 8K off of MSRP so my engine was free ??
No you just get the engine and wheels free ??So can people that got 8k off of MSRP with a gas say the diesel really costs 16k?
The 6.7 powerstroke/10 speed is used up to 50k GCWR in the F-750. So yes, the transmission is built to last in both applicationsI am more concerned with the shared transmission, diesel or gas... will it hold up to heavy towing? I think both motors are great for the purpose. Whether you start your pull with the gas or diesel is a mute point. What is in the process to get the end result? Higher gears with the gas motor to achieve the desired torque or slightly lower gears with the diesel is not the issue. The transmission, which is common to all of the vehicles is the key pivot point. Will it hold up? I think so, 2nd gen, 3rd gen, whatever ... they will get it right.
So it seems the point of discussion (with the Tremor crowd) is mute! Gas or Diesel will do what you want. Different gearing, same tranny. HP is out the window with various aftermarket mods and tunes available. To me, the diesel seems to be more touchy with maintenance and it seems most on this forum don't 'really' need the diesel as a daily tower, but they want the 'Powerstroke'. Just my observation. Both are fine, but it seems to me for the most part that the diesel crowd on a whole really doesn't need the diesel part. YMMV and peace to you if that is your choice, no hate meant.The 6.7 powerstroke/10 speed is used up to 50k GCWR in the F-750. So yes, the transmission is built to last in both applications
With a boat that light you could use an F150. Get the 3.5 ecoboost and you'll get over 10mpg while towing a 6500lb boat.That was one of my concerns with the diesel so I did go 7.3. My tow plans include a boat in the near future but more in the 6k-7k range ( probably closer to 6k). I plan to tow it maybe a handful of times a year and maybe once a year long distance. I have a friend that had the DEF tank sensor mess up a handful of times that said the tank was empty when it was full and derated the truck. We will see I guess if the 7.3 can’t handle it maybe I’ll be jumping ship but seems like guys are hauling decent loads with it and the engine is handling it well.
Thanks for the comparison. I love real world tests. Im seeing 8.5 mpg with my 9k travel trailer in most conditions so surprised yours is lower with a boat, campers usually catch the most wind and cause terrible econony. My 5.9 cummins which is known to be efficient without all the emissions shit got 11.5 with the same load. Seems like this new 6.7 is really doing well, if they can just simplify them I may have to switch back ?
Or I should of just got the 6.7 and get over 20 towing ?, j/k. I know a half ton would handle all my needs just fine, I really just prefer the super duty trucks in general.With a boat that light you could use an F150. Get the 3.5 ecoboost and you'll get over 10mpg while towing a 6500lb boat.
The 6.7 was averaging 19.5 where the 7.3 was 14 normal drivingJust curious what is your mileage unloaded between the two? We know the 7.3 has 4.30 and 35” tires but what about the 6.7? 33” with 3.55 or 3.31?
To clarify a few comments-questions.... I am well aware of the differences between gas & diesel, this was simply real world numbers I shared since I owned both. I knew the 7.3 would suffer with mileage for long distance towing however I rarely tow more than 20 miles. This was a trip from Topsail Island NC to Ft Walton Beach Fl right at 800 miles flat towing. I was facing a 20MPH headwind which didn’t help and like I said a T-Top on a boat puts extra resistance. This is why you see many larger boats wrapped when towing. I wasn’t that surprised on the MPG however I was a bit surprised on how often she would kick down on the slightest grade like an overpass.
Your experience with the eco is better than mine. I got the privilege to burrow a buddies truck over a couple of weekend trips while my Tremor was on order. With my boat only tipping the scale at 5200lbs -5500lbs depending on the trip the eco was lucky to get 7 where I am getting 10 with the same boat and my 7.3L Tremor. The eco had the max towing package and believe 3:73 gears not sure on that though. Empty mileage was a completely different story, that thing was close to diesel economy but still not quite as good as what people here are posting. Loaded my buddies eco was very powerful, but one of the thirstiest things I have driven. That contributed to why my friend made the jump to a superduty with the 6.7L last fall.With a boat that light you could use an F150. Get the 3.5 ecoboost and you'll get over 10mpg while towing a 6500lb boat.
In addition to Apparition's question, at what altitude are you towing? Also, when you say the "7.3 has plenty of power but cannot compete with the 6.7", how much power are you talking? For example, do you feel like you have plenty of power to still pass someone that's doing 65mph on a 2-lane road and you're still wanting to do 70 (passing them safely with enough speed so that you're not in the left lane for 5 minutes before you can get over)?
I did... 2018 F150 3.5eco.... it had a 4" pro comp lift 35" nittos.. I didn't tow much but similar MPGs at the 7.3 city.Your experience with the eco is better than mine. I got the privilege to burrow a buddies truck over a couple of weekend trips while my Tremor was on order. With my boat only tipping the scale at 5200lbs -5500lbs depending on the trip the eco was lucky to get 7 where I am getting 10 with the same boat and my 7.3L Tremor. The eco had the max towing package and believe 3:73 gears not sure on that though. Empty mileage was a completely different story, that thing was close to diesel economy but still not quite as good as what people here are posting. Loaded my buddies eco was very powerful, but one of the thirstiest things I have driven. That contributed to why my friend made the jump to a superduty with the 6.7L last fall.
Wonder if RU2PD tried pulling his boat with the F150 for another comparison.
I am happy with the 7.3 however if I was towing distances more often I would go back to diesel.So at the end of the day, would you say you are happy with your decision to switch to the 7.3, or are you contemplating going back to a diesel for the next truck?
I am happy with the 7.3 however if I was towing distances more often I would go back to diesel.
I totally agree that I do not need the Powerstroke. I also agree that the Godzilla would be a more economical choice, and way easier to maintain.So it seems the point of discussion (with the Tremor crowd) is mute! Gas or Diesel will do what you want. Different gearing, same tranny. HP is out the window with various aftermarket mods and tunes available. To me, the diesel seems to be more touchy with maintenance and it seems most on this forum don't 'really' need the diesel as a daily tower, but they want the 'Powerstroke'. Just my observation. Both are fine, but it seems to me for the most part that the diesel crowd on a whole really doesn't need the diesel part. YMMV and peace to you if that is your choice, no hate meant.
Unless youre pulling your 30.000 LBs or house around....why would you need 410 or 430 gears with the 6.7??Still just shocking that Ford is running 3.55s with the 6.7 while Ram HO 6.7 cummins can be had with 4:10s in a SRW and GM Duramax 3.73s in a SRW.
I understand Ford 6.7 has 1050 torque, but in the mountains pulling 15k-20k pounds like some of these triple axle toy haulers, 4:10s can make a big difference in pull.
The 10 speed Ford must be geared low in the first 5 gears to compensate for the 3.55s