Real towing numbers 6.7 vs 7.3

I am more concerned with the shared transmission, diesel or gas... will it hold up to heavy towing? I think both motors are great for the purpose. Whether you start your pull with the gas or diesel is a mute point. What is in the process to get the end result? Higher gears with the gas motor to achieve the desired torque or slightly lower gears with the diesel is not the issue. The transmission, which is common to all of the vehicles is the key pivot point. Will it hold up? I think so, 2nd gen, 3rd gen, whatever ... they will get it right.
The 6.7 powerstroke/10 speed is used up to 50k GCWR in the F-750. So yes, the transmission is built to last in both applications
 
The 6.7 powerstroke/10 speed is used up to 50k GCWR in the F-750. So yes, the transmission is built to last in both applications
So it seems the point of discussion (with the Tremor crowd) is mute! Gas or Diesel will do what you want. Different gearing, same tranny. HP is out the window with various aftermarket mods and tunes available. To me, the diesel seems to be more touchy with maintenance and it seems most on this forum don't 'really' need the diesel as a daily tower, but they want the 'Powerstroke'. Just my observation. Both are fine, but it seems to me for the most part that the diesel crowd on a whole really doesn't need the diesel part. YMMV and peace to you if that is your choice, no hate meant.
 
That was one of my concerns with the diesel so I did go 7.3. My tow plans include a boat in the near future but more in the 6k-7k range ( probably closer to 6k). I plan to tow it maybe a handful of times a year and maybe once a year long distance. I have a friend that had the DEF tank sensor mess up a handful of times that said the tank was empty when it was full and derated the truck. We will see I guess if the 7.3 can’t handle it maybe I’ll be jumping ship but seems like guys are hauling decent loads with it and the engine is handling it well.
With a boat that light you could use an F150. Get the 3.5 ecoboost and you'll get over 10mpg while towing a 6500lb boat.
 
Thanks for the comparison. I love real world tests. Im seeing 8.5 mpg with my 9k travel trailer in most conditions so surprised yours is lower with a boat, campers usually catch the most wind and cause terrible econony. My 5.9 cummins which is known to be efficient without all the emissions shit got 11.5 with the same load. Seems like this new 6.7 is really doing well, if they can just simplify them I may have to switch back ?

Wondering how my new camper will tow with the 7.3. Thanks for the numbers! About what I expected.
 
With a boat that light you could use an F150. Get the 3.5 ecoboost and you'll get over 10mpg while towing a 6500lb boat.
Or I should of just got the 6.7 and get over 20 towing ?, j/k. I know a half ton would handle all my needs just fine, I really just prefer the super duty trucks in general.
 
To clarify a few comments-questions.... I am well aware of the differences between gas & diesel, this was simply real world numbers I shared since I owned both. I knew the 7.3 would suffer with mileage for long distance towing however I rarely tow more than 20 miles. This was a trip from Topsail Island NC to Ft Walton Beach Fl right at 800 miles flat towing. I was facing a 20MPH headwind which didn’t help and like I said a T-Top on a boat puts extra resistance. This is why you see many larger boats wrapped when towing. I wasn’t that surprised on the MPG however I was a bit surprised on how often she would kick down on the slightest grade like an overpass.
 
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Just curious what is your mileage unloaded between the two? We know the 7.3 has 4.30 and 35” tires but what about the 6.7? 33” with 3.55 or 3.31?
The 6.7 was averaging 19.5 where the 7.3 was 14 normal driving
 
To clarify a few comments-questions.... I am well aware of the differences between gas & diesel, this was simply real world numbers I shared since I owned both. I knew the 7.3 would suffer with mileage for long distance towing however I rarely tow more than 20 miles. This was a trip from Topsail Island NC to Ft Walton Beach Fl right at 800 miles flat towing. I was facing a 20MPH headwind which didn’t help and like I said a T-Top on a boat puts extra resistance. This is why you see many larger boats wrapped when towing. I wasn’t that surprised on the MPG however I was a bit surprised on how often she would kick down on the slightest grade like an overpass.

So at the end of the day, would you say you are happy with your decision to switch to the 7.3, or are you contemplating going back to a diesel for the next truck?
 
With a boat that light you could use an F150. Get the 3.5 ecoboost and you'll get over 10mpg while towing a 6500lb boat.
Your experience with the eco is better than mine. I got the privilege to burrow a buddies truck over a couple of weekend trips while my Tremor was on order. With my boat only tipping the scale at 5200lbs -5500lbs depending on the trip the eco was lucky to get 7 where I am getting 10 with the same boat and my 7.3L Tremor. The eco had the max towing package and believe 3:73 gears not sure on that though. Empty mileage was a completely different story, that thing was close to diesel economy but still not quite as good as what people here are posting. Loaded my buddies eco was very powerful, but one of the thirstiest things I have driven. That contributed to why my friend made the jump to a superduty with the 6.7L last fall.

Wonder if RU2PD tried pulling his boat with the F150 for another comparison.
 
In addition to Apparition's question, at what altitude are you towing? Also, when you say the "7.3 has plenty of power but cannot compete with the 6.7", how much power are you talking? For example, do you feel like you have plenty of power to still pass someone that's doing 65mph on a 2-lane road and you're still wanting to do 70 (passing them safely with enough speed so that you're not in the left lane for 5 minutes before you can get over)?

Your experience with the eco is better than mine. I got the privilege to burrow a buddies truck over a couple of weekend trips while my Tremor was on order. With my boat only tipping the scale at 5200lbs -5500lbs depending on the trip the eco was lucky to get 7 where I am getting 10 with the same boat and my 7.3L Tremor. The eco had the max towing package and believe 3:73 gears not sure on that though. Empty mileage was a completely different story, that thing was close to diesel economy but still not quite as good as what people here are posting. Loaded my buddies eco was very powerful, but one of the thirstiest things I have driven. That contributed to why my friend made the jump to a superduty with the 6.7L last fall.

Wonder if RU2PD tried pulling his boat with the F150 for another comparison.
I did... 2018 F150 3.5eco.... it had a 4" pro comp lift 35" nittos.. I didn't tow much but similar MPGs at the 7.3 city.
 
So at the end of the day, would you say you are happy with your decision to switch to the 7.3, or are you contemplating going back to a diesel for the next truck?
I am happy with the 7.3 however if I was towing distances more often I would go back to diesel.
 
I am happy with the 7.3 however if I was towing distances more often I would go back to diesel.

There’s a slight chance a boat cover might be cheaper than a diesel.
 
The other factor is depreciation, both real value and write off value. The Diesel truck cost more up front ( write off) you will resell it for much more ( real value ).

Mine is a business, I enjoy both so the cost comparison is out the window for me.

I am a huge fan of the 7.3 love them. but the $$$$ is with the 6.7 in my circumstances .
 
So it seems the point of discussion (with the Tremor crowd) is mute! Gas or Diesel will do what you want. Different gearing, same tranny. HP is out the window with various aftermarket mods and tunes available. To me, the diesel seems to be more touchy with maintenance and it seems most on this forum don't 'really' need the diesel as a daily tower, but they want the 'Powerstroke'. Just my observation. Both are fine, but it seems to me for the most part that the diesel crowd on a whole really doesn't need the diesel part. YMMV and peace to you if that is your choice, no hate meant.
I totally agree that I do not need the Powerstroke. I also agree that the Godzilla would be a more economical choice, and way easier to maintain.

However: I know for a fact that my truck will tow anything it is certified to tow...in ANY terrain. My 6.7 Tremor can pull things thru the mountains with ease......basically If I keep to my door stickers for cargo and gvwr, I will never really approach the actual limits of my F250....and that is what I want in a heavy duty truck. Between the over built engine and the fact my F250.....is an F350, I am good to go!!
 
We bought our 2020 F250 7.3 Tremor in Dec. I’ve started a new rv repair business and needed to move campers around the property. We also two a 8k camper and found the f150 was maxed out. With a trip out east this year, the 250 will handle better. I did a lot of research on the 6.7, while yes we would save on fuel, although only about $300 a year. So the added 10k for the 6.7 and the higher costs of maintaining a diesel would not make any sense for our needs, no matter how much better the mpg is on the 6.7. We can’t even tow the max with the 7.3 in Ontario without a specific license.
 
Given you were dealing with a 20 mph head wind on top of a ground speed of 70 mph, it's little wonder that you got 7 mpg.
I just towed my 23 ft enclosed snowmobile trailer (4000lbs. loaded and it acts like a giant sail as well) with a 15 mph quartering wind (ambient temp of 20 degrees and winter blended fuel as well) and got 9 mpg with my 7.3 gasser.
It's no worse than my F150 with the 3.5 Ecoboost...so I'll take the stability of the Superduty over the F150 any day.
 
I'm surprised the difference is that wide! I've got about 12,000 miles pulling this around the country and I'm averaging 10.5 MPG at 15,800 lbs.
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Still just shocking that Ford is running 3.55s with the 6.7 while Ram HO 6.7 cummins can be had with 4:10s in a SRW and GM Duramax 3.73s in a SRW.
I understand Ford 6.7 has 1050 torque, but in the mountains pulling 15k-20k pounds like some of these triple axle toy haulers, 4:10s can make a big difference in pull.
The 10 speed Ford must be geared low in the first 5 gears to compensate for the 3.55s
Unless youre pulling your 30.000 LBs or house around....why would you need 410 or 430 gears with the 6.7??
 
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