Here come the Mongoose (8.3L Duramax)

Yep!

 
A dude with a bow tie takes almost another 1.5 liters to make the same numbers as Ford 😂
I would wager that this new 8.3L will make similar numbers to the 6.7 HO, maybe 5% more HP and 8% to 10% on the torque side just so GM can claim the title for a few months until Ford releases their new powerplant. The main driver for this was the increased emissions starting in 2027. The current 6.6L Duramax wouldn't be able to make them without actually reducing power. In the 8.3L, the boost will be dropped as I would expect too the compression ratio in order to keep the temps down. The bad part of this is that I suspect that the 8.3L will also utilize the EGR more instead of less as the new emissions standards are pretty steep.

Now, Ford will answer this, but I am not sure exactly how. I expect that Ford will not increase the displacement because they are not looking to just 1 up or go tit for tat, but rather be revolutionary and introduce a Hybrid ICE setup. They all but admitted they were going to do this around 2028 which coincides well with GM as they most likely knew GM was going this route. The unknown is whether it would be gas or diesel. The fact that GM actually released the 8.3L makes me very happy because that, in my mind, increases the likelihood now that Ford will make their answer a hybrid diesel electric. If they do that, it would be a game changer, and I would absolutely jump at the chance to get one. This one is Ford's to win or lose! Farley will either prove he knows what he is doing or prove that comedy and jokes run deep in his family.
 
Now, Ford will answer this, but I am not sure exactly how. I expect that Ford will not increase the displacement because they are not looking to just 1 up or go tit for tat, but rather be revolutionary and introduce a Hybrid ICE setup. They all but admitted they were going to do this around 2028 which coincides well with GM.
On the ‘25 KTP tour this was point blank asked and Ford engineers from Detroit as well as Super Duty engineers from KTP were both very adamant that there would be no hybrid and/or electric power plant moving forward on the SD. Simply put, they said it didn’t fit what these trucks are built for.

We shall see who’s bluffing 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
On the ‘25 KTP tour this was point blank asked and Ford engineers from Detroit as well as Super Duty engineers from KTP were both very adamant that there would be no hybrid and/or electric power plant moving forward on the SD. Simply put, they said it didn’t fit what these trucks are built for.

We shall see who’s bluffing 🤷🏼‍♂️
On the ‘25 KTP tour this was point blank asked and Ford engineers from Detroit as well as Super Duty engineers from KTP were both very adamant that there would be no hybrid and/or electric power plant moving forward on the SD. Simply put, they said it didn’t fit what these trucks are built for.

We shall see who’s bluffing 🤷🏼‍♂️
I would pretty much bank on whatever was said was bluff as Ford and Farley have already stated that the next gen Super Duty will be electrified in some fashion. Obviously, anything can change but with GM doubling down on diesels, I'll stick by my prediction above. I think that a hybrid diesel electric fits perfectly with what these vehicles are used for, especially 3/4-ton and 1-ton SRW vehicles. Hell, locomotives have been diesel electric for decades. I don't expect a large battery type of hybrid style but something more direct and working in tandem with a smaller battery to assist with things like jobsite PPO and situational driving like towing in stop-and-go/city .

Here are a few links:

 
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Since I'm not a numbers chaser I'll be happy here in the '22 until there's a new MY Super Duty that grabs my attention. I'm WAY too far down this rabbit hole to change brands without some really EPIC engineering or product offerings. Unfortunately I have ZERO faith in any of the big three making some dynamic changes that shakes the whole industry with 3/4-1-ton trucks.

Think about it....what would need to be offered on a truck to make you dump your current vehicle?? A factory truck with 4" of lift, 37s/38s, lockers front and rear, etc etc????? Or do you want a full on Hybrid design that can pull 45,000lbs, get 1,500 miles of towing, has FULL gig speed internet capability?????????

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Since I'm not a numbers chaser I'll be happy here in the '22 until there's a new MY Super Duty that grabs my attention. I'm WAY too far down this rabbit hole to change brands without some really EPIC engineering or product offerings. Unfortunately I have ZERO faith in any of the big three making some dynamic changes that shakes the whole industry with 3/4-1-ton trucks.

Think about it....what would need to be offered on a truck to make you dump your current vehicle?? A factory truck with 4" of lift, 37s/38s, lockers front and rear, etc etc????? Or do you want a full on Hybrid design that can pull 45,000lbs, get 1,500 miles of towing, has FULL gig speed internet capability?????????

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Honestly I don't think there is anything short of a catastrophic loss which would make me get rid of my 2024 7.3. It's everything I need in a truck. Having a powerboost option like in the F150 would be cool and make me take a long look but with the solar and battery options available now I don't know if it would be worth it.
 
All the hoopla about a hybrid SD is soooo 2024. All the yap seemed to stop once the 2024 elections took place. I’d be very surprised if a hybrid rolled off the line before they know what happens in 2028.
I fully believe that, for now, it’s ICE war time. Low power big displacement engines. Unless, the EPA makes some changes.
 
This article is not confirmed by GM yet
 
Isn’t that GMs official boobtube channel?
 
I couldn't find anything from GM confirming their new engine
 
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Since I'm not a numbers chaser I'll be happy here in the '22 until there's a new MY Super Duty that grabs my attention. I'm WAY too far down this rabbit hole to change brands without some really EPIC engineering or product offerings. Unfortunately I have ZERO faith in any of the big three making some dynamic changes that shakes the whole industry with 3/4-1-ton trucks.

Think about it....what would need to be offered on a truck to make you dump your current vehicle?? A factory truck with 4" of lift, 37s/38s, lockers front and rear, etc etc????? Or do you want a full on Hybrid design that can pull 45,000lbs, get 1,500 miles of towing, has FULL gig speed internet capability?????????

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Yea my 22 7.3 is gonna have to completely rust away for me to even consider an upgrade. Hell, comparing what I have against today's prices at the same build is enough to keep me from being interested .
 
Yea my 22 7.3 is gonna have to completely rust away for me to even consider an upgrade. Hell, comparing what I have against today's prices at the same build is enough to keep me from being interested .
You may be waiting a long time for your aluminum body to rust away. :LOL:

I'd rather push my ford, Than drive a Chevy.
 
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