Why is the 6.7 Tremor only rated at 15,000 lbs conventional?

[joey011582]

Why is the 6.7 Tremor rated 15,000lbs conventional towing while a non-Tremor is 20,000lbs conventional? Is it the tires, suspension, frame etc? The gooseneck/5th wheel rating remain the same as the non-Tremors.

 

[forcebwu19]

My guess.....the tounge weight of a 20k trailer would be to much for the off road tuned shocks. ??‍

 

[joey011582]

My guess.....the tounge weight of a 20k trailer would be to much for the off road tuned shocks. ??‍

I would just like to know, but if that's the case why the same rating for gooseneck?

 

[forcebwu19]

I would just like to know, but if that's the case why the same rating for gooseneck?

Goose necks put the weight forward of the rear axle meaning some of the weight is on the front axle as well. So I suppose they're expecting 25% or more to be on the front axle when towing 5th wheel/goose neck? I'm not an overly experienced tower, I'm hoping someone with more experience/expertise will chime in and confirm my layman's understanding. This is how I've been justifying it in my head....

I do take comfort in knowing that the only reason for a downgrade is the suspension. As far as I know the engine, trans, transfercase, drive shaft, axles, frame, and hitch, are all the same. Meaning if I ever did need more capacity I could get airbags and still get the job done.

 

[AFTRSHK]

It's more likely the front and rear lift with larger diameter tires. Ford is likely taking a 25% derate for safety reasons more than any other load capability in the springs, even with the High Capacity Trailer Tow Rating (F250 10,800 GVWR) and F350 11,400 GVWR.

 

[BacaraTremor]

My Toy Hauler at 1850 hitch weight, 36ft long gets a little squirrelly every once in a while, so I say it’s probably the shocks and smaller sway bar on the front along with the 35s.

my 2017 Titan XD Diesel with same trailer was rock solid. Severely over capacity, but man it towed nice. Although well within capacity of Tremor, had way more confidence with my Titan XD.

Still playing with hitch setup as Tremor sits 2” lower than XD at the hitch so it could be my setup ??‍

 

[joey011582]

Goose necks put the weight forward of the rear axle meaning some of the weight is on the front axle as well. So I suppose they're expecting 25% or more to be on the front axle when towing 5th wheel/goose neck? I'm not an overly experienced tower, I'm hoping someone with more experience/expertise will chime in and confirm my layman's understanding. This is how I've been justifying it in my head....

I do take comfort in knowing that the only reason for a downgrade is the suspension. As far as I know the engine, trans, transfercase, drive shaft, axles, frame, and hitch, are all the same. Meaning if I ever did need more capacity I could get airbags and still get the job done.

That's what I want to know too, I'm cool with the suspension idea but the fifth wheel is directly over the rear axle. Also the f250 tremor 6.7s come with the heavier M275 axle and suspension that comes on the F350s.

 

[joey011582]

My Toy Hauler at 1850 hitch weight, 36ft long gets a little squirrelly every once in a while, so I say it’s probably the shocks and smaller sway bar on the front along with the 35s.

my 2017 Titan XD Diesel with same trailer was rock solid. Severely over capacity, but man it towed nice. Although well within capacity of Tremor, had way more confidence with my Titan XD.

Still playing with hitch setup as Tremor sits 2” lower than XD at the hitch so it could be my setup ??‍

You have to get the tongue weight just right or you'll have problems. With it being too far down in the front it shifts the weight and thats crazy how the titan had a higher hitch.

 

[BacaraTremor]

You have to get the tongue weight just right or you'll have problems. With it being too far down in the front it shifts the weight and thats crazy how the titan had a higher hitch.

You’re telling me. I was like WTF when I got the Tremor. I think ford having a Class V hitch, it drops more then a Class IV which is why it’s lower. Had a leveling kit and larger tires on my XD so that netted about 2”.

 

[joey011582]

You’re telling me. I was like WTF when I got the Tremor. I think ford having a Class V hitch, it drops more then a Class IV which is why it’s lower. Had a leveling kit and larger tires on my XD so that netted about 2”.

Haha, I've been there! Too much or too little and the trailer gets angry lol

 

[ECHO-24]

This is off of TFL truck.
Now, how about the 2020 Super Duty Tremor off-road truck. Ford initially said that their goal was to make an off-road truck without losing much of the payload and towing capacities of a heavy duty. How does it compare against the Ram Power Wagon?

The Tremor package offers: a small suspension lift, 35-inch Goodyear Duratrac off-road tires, specially tuned suspension, crawl control, and more.

The Tremor has the following ratings:

• Maximum conventional trailer towing: 15,000 lbs.
• Maximum gooseneck trailer towing: 21,900 lbs (with a diesel)
• Maximum payload: 4,210 lbs (with a 7.3L V8)

These are very impressing numbers for a truck with an off-road package. Traditionally, a more compliant off-road suspension and heavy hauling do not go together.

The new Ram Power Wagon is a supremely capable off-road truck that comes with a winch from the factory, but it’s maximum payload is 1,660 lbs and maximum towing is 10,620 lbs.

 

[IceSoldier88]

Hell the power wagon numbers are similar to my buddies Raptor.