Who was on TFL??

[ccw]

TFL did a drag race between a Super Duty and a TRX (I’ll let you guess which truck won). Super Duty was brought by a viewer and is a Tremor!

Great interview, whoever it was, and hoping you’re here on the forum.

 

[Busa Dave]

LOL traded in my TRX (almost 15k on it) for the Tremor. They are two Completely Different types of vehicles. One is pretty much a very light duty truck to play in and eat most sports cars including a new C8 from stoplight to stoplight. The other a truck to work in and from. Problem is with the TRX they are limited to 118 because of tires.

 

[ccw]

LOL traded in my TRX (almost 15k on it) for the Tremor. They are two Completely Different types of vehicles. One is pretty much a very light duty truck to play in and eat most sports cars including a new C8 from stoplight to stoplight. The other a truck to work in and from. Problem is with the TRX they are limited to 118 because of tires.

Perfectly said lol!

 

[TJ Carr]

TFL did a drag race between a Super Duty and a TRX (I’ll let you guess which truck won). Super Duty was brought by a viewer and is a Tremor!

Great interview, whoever it was, and hoping you’re here on the forum.

I think (but not sure) we saw this Tremor not long ago, saw the A pillar lights & turned onto the road a few cars behind it & was unable to get any closer

If it’s the same one, it really looked sharp, just enough tweaking and nothing more for my personal tastes. I’m trying to convince the spousal unit to get A pillar lights for long distance back country roads & she thinks they are ugly

Think I know where the TFL guys film all the racetrack stuff, it’s a small town just off of the interstate

 

[Modman]

TFL did a drag race between a Super Duty and a TRX (I’ll let you guess which truck won). Super Duty was brought by a viewer and is a Tremor!

Great interview, whoever it was, and hoping you’re here on the forum.

"Drag racing isn't about horsepower, it's about torque".

I hope that TFL guy was joking... Unfortunately, it didn't seem like it to me, though.

 

[dew34]

Really ? That was a waste of time .

 

[ccw]

I think (but not sure) we saw this Tremor not long ago, saw the A pillar lights & turned onto the road a few cars behind it & was unable to get any closer

If it’s the same one, it really looked sharp, just enough tweaking and nothing more for my personal tastes. I’m trying to convince the spousal unit to get A pillar lights for long distance back country roads & she thinks they are ugly

Think I know where the TFL guys film all the racetrack stuff, it’s a small town just off of the interstate

Very cool! It looked sharp on the video, that’s for sure.

"Drag racing isn't about horsepower, it's about torque".

I hope that TFL guy was joking... Unfortunately, it didn't seem like it to me, though.

Agreed. Torque is good for the initial jump off the line, then it’s horsepower.

Really ? That was a waste of time .

Ya their drag races aren’t my favorite videos from them since it doesn’t prove much of anything from a practical standpoint. Just neat to see a viewer’s Tremor on the channel.

 

[Alpoba]

It will be interesting to see trx vs raptor r in a year or so, that will be to . This was not a very meaningful race.

 

[Vee8Thunder]

LOL traded in my TRX (almost 15k on it) for the Tremor. They are two Completely Different types of vehicles. One is pretty much a very light duty truck to play in and eat most sports cars including a new C8 from stoplight to stoplight. The other a truck to work in and from. Problem is with the TRX they are limited to 118 because of tires.

Cool video TRX vs corvette, but I'll say that the guy driving the corvette either deliberately sandbagged it or just didn't know how to drive. There's no universe where the TRX is anywhere close to the c8 in any race of more than about 30 feet if the corvette is properly launched. The TRX is about 1.5s slower 0-60 yet in this test they hit 60 about the same time meaning that the c8 was "spotting" the TRX roughly a second and a half in the race if driven to its actual designed performance potential.

Well, I'll caveat my "no universe" to "no universe with a density altitude under 5k feet". Since Hennessy is located near Houston, I'll assume that race was done nearby and therefore basically at sea level.

update: I did some quick research and the test was definitely "flawed" (to put a nice spin on it). The corvette has 41 miles on it (visible in the video in the side-by-side dash shots). The corvette locks out 25-30% torque in the first 2 gears under 500 miles to facilitate break-in. I can't verify anything regarding the driver's skill/technique but it didn't sound like the corvette was being brake-torqued for a proper launch, nevermind using launch control (which might also be locked out under 500 miles..not sure) though the dude's reaction time certainly left a bit to be desired vs the TRX driver. Anyway...as I said..cool and entertaining but I just wanted to make sure there was a reality check inserted in there too

update to update....taking a closer look at the video, the TRX was hard launched with brake-torqued rpm/boost build and the c8 was "launched" off idle. So yeah...not really putting the best foot forward for the vette even discounting basically missing 2 cylinders out of the engine for the first 2 gears Anyway, I realize this is neither a TRX nor a corvette forum, I'm just pedantic about such things I guess. Carry on

 

[pkrexer]

Kinda silly comparison.

Lets see them connected to a 10k trailer and see who wins then.

 

[Mags41dts]

Would like to compare a 50-70 or 60-80. Bet it would be close

 

[Vee8Thunder]

Would like to compare a 50-70 or 60-80. Bet it would be close

I bet it would be even more lopsided. The only time the Tremor would be competitive in a torque-at-the-wheels aspect is at launch. After that, horsepower with gearing is king. Now, if you further dictated that both trucks would have to be locked to their highest overdrive gear for the 50-70, 60-80 test and no downshift was allowed..then yeah the powerstroke tremor would most likely win due to its being able to deliver more torque to the wheels through sheer brute force of the engine.

edit: to further elaborate, the tests you've suggested are ideally suited to the horsepower of a vehicle (well, horsepower/mass ratio),. Horsepower is the rate of doing work. The amount of work to be done here is to change the kinetic energy of the trucks from one value at 50 mph to another value at 70mph. Kinetic energy being calculated with the formula of 1/2 * mass * velocity^2. The test you've suggested would declare the winner as the truck who could accelerate from 50 to 70 (or 60 to 80) in the least time which is directly derive-able from the kinetic energy equation (discounting aerodynamic and other parasitic losses) by simply looking at the torque curve of each engine over the rpm range that would be in play for the test. Since the powerstroke tremor has less horsepower AND more mass, it would fare very poorly in this test compared to the lighter and more powerful TRX.

 

[Busa Dave]

Cool video TRX vs corvette, but I'll say that the guy driving the corvette either deliberately sandbagged it or just didn't know how to drive. There's no universe where the TRX is anywhere close to the c8 in any race of more than about 30 feet if the corvette is properly launched. The TRX is about 1.5s slower 0-60 yet in this test they hit 60 about the same time meaning that the c8 was "spotting" the TRX roughly a second and a half in the race if driven to its actual designed performance potential.

Well, I'll caveat my "no universe" to "no universe with a density altitude under 5k feet". Since Hennessy is located near Houston, I'll assume that race was done nearby and therefore basically at sea level.

update: I did some quick research and the test was definitely "flawed" (to put a nice spin on it). The corvette has 41 miles on it (visible in the video in the side-by-side dash shots). The corvette locks out 25-30% torque in the first 2 gears under 500 miles to facilitate break-in. I can't verify anything regarding the driver's skill/technique but it didn't sound like the corvette was being brake-torqued for a proper launch, nevermind using launch control (which might also be locked out under 500 miles..not sure) though the dude's reaction time certainly left a bit to be desired vs the TRX driver. Anyway...as I said..cool and entertaining but I just wanted to make sure there was a reality check inserted in there too

update to update....taking a closer look at the video, the TRX was hard launched with brake-torqued rpm/boost build and the c8 was "launched" off idle. So yeah...not really putting the best foot forward for the vette even discounting basically missing 2 cylinders out of the engine for the first 2 gears Anyway, I realize this is neither a TRX nor a corvette forum, I'm just pedantic about such things I guess. Carry on

Well I have had a TRX and a C7 Z06 that was highly modified internally made almost 800 RWHP and I am telling you the TRX is that fast because it can hook up. I have also had 700 HP motorcycles with a Scott Shafiroff 540 built around the bike.

There are other examples of the TRX and its ability suggest you look into them or better yet buy one and drive it for awhile.

Got to love the armchair quarterbacks....

 

[Busa Dave]

Would like to compare a 50-70 or 60-80. Bet it would be close

You are dreaming......

 

[Vee8Thunder]

Well I have had a TRX and a C7 Z06 that was highly modified internally made almost 800 RWHP and I am telling you the TRX is that fast because it can hook up. I have also had 700 HP motorcycles with a Scott Shafiroff 540 built around the bike.

There are other examples of the TRX and its ability suggest you look into them or better yet buy one and drive it for awhile.

Got to love the armchair quarterbacks....

It's not about arm-chair quarterbacking..it's simple physics. And the C8 can also hook up due to it's being mid-engine and the insane rear-biased weight ratio.

I'm not saying the TRX isn't fast (for a truck or otherwise), I'm saying that the C8 in that video was being driven much slower than it's capable of due to being in its break-in phase as well as piss-poor launch technique. When broken in and launched properly, the C8 is a sub 3sec 0-60 car with many documented runs being about 2.5s. There's no stock TRX that comes even close to 3 seconds. The best credible run I've come across was from C&D at 3.7s. Incredible for a truck to be sure, but would be stomped by a broken-in C8 driven by someone with a clue. There's no shame in that...the TRX weighs twice as much as a C8..the fact that it's still <that close> is an amazing feat of engineering.

 

[Mojave_Idiot]

Who in their right mind would line up a 3/4 ton diesel against a TRX, stock to stock, and be like gee guys I dunno!

I don’t mind TFL, but sometimes they are very

700 horsepower is a lot. I don’t think I’d be confident against a TRX in my Camaro below a 60 roll. Or 80.

Maybe I’d just seal the deal and we’ll take it from a 120 roll, just to be sure.

 

[Busa Dave]

It's not about arm-chair quarterbacking..it's simple physics. And the C8 can also hook up due to it's being mid-engine and the insane rear-biased weight ratio.

I'm not saying the TRX isn't fast (for a truck or otherwise), I'm saying that the C8 in that video was being driven much slower than it's capable of due to being in its break-in phase as well as piss-poor launch technique. When broken in and launched properly, the C8 is a sub 3sec 0-60 car with many documented runs being about 2.5s. There's no stock TRX that comes even close to 3 seconds. The best credible run I've come across was from C&D at 3.7s. Incredible for a truck to be sure, but would stomped by a broken-in C8 driven by someone with a clue. There's no shame in that...the TRX weighs twice as much as a C8..the fact that it's still <that close> is an amazing feat of engineering.

Got to love the armchair quarterbacks who love to read the rags. That is all I can say about that. Been dealing with them for a long time. Was really funny when I was running 1k hp oil burners and (did shorten the life span considerably of the 4x4 drive train) would leave vettes, vipers etc. sitting wondering what happened.

 

[Vee8Thunder]

Got to love the armchair quarterbacks who love to read the rags. That is all I can say about that. Been dealing with them for a long time. Was really funny when I was running 1k hp oil burners and (did shorten the life span considerably of the 4x4 drive train) would leave vettes, vipers etc. sitting wondering what happened.

If you want to believe that a stock TRX is a sub-3 second truck, then I'll leave you to your fantasy It's not a bad one to have, I suppose, so who am I to judge?

 

[830Tremor]

We need stock 6.7 vs stock 7.3. My money would be on the 6.7 but would be interested in watching.

 

[Mojave_Idiot]

This just gets me in the mood for talking trash.

I do love the big game that diesel and truck guys in general talk until Cletus rolls up in a clapped out g body with a junkyard small block that sucks down more alcohol than your abusive step dad and clicks off an 8 second quarter, all for less than that fancy lift kit cost.

There’s always a bigger fish.