Warn 12Klb winch from Ford or purchase separately?

[Sendit6.5]

Configuring my new 2022 F350 Tremor and I want to get a good winch but I’m wondering whether the $3k price tag that Ford is charging is fair; or can I purchase it separately and have it installed for a significant savings?

Would you recommend I get a more powerful winch or a different Warn model than the one Ford offers as an option?

Thanks to all that reply!

 

[Sccritterkiller]

I went with factory. With 7.3 it actually 3500 as dual alts and batteries are required. I have installed winches on my other vehicles...the factory install looks way better. Most other winches will require a different front bumper as even with factory install its a real tight fit.

 

[ccw]

Heads up that if you do go with factory, the winch uses a non-standard mounting pattern and shorter than standard rope, with no room for extra length.

This means two things:
1. The winch can’t be installed into another location without modifying the receiving location (holes won’t line up).
2. When buying replacement rope, if you don’t want to replace with the exact same, you’ll need to shorten it before installing.

Neither are the end of the world, but may or may not be dealbreakers for you. The install in the factory bumper does look awesome, though.

 

[Sendit6.5]

Heads up that if you do go with factory, the winch uses a non-standard mounting pattern and shorter than standard rope, with no room for extra length.

This means two things:
1. The winch can’t be installed into another location without modifying the receiving location (holes won’t line up).
2. When buying replacement rope, if you don’t want to replace with the exact same, you’ll need to shorten it before installing.

Neither are the end of the world, but may or may not be dealbreakers for you. The install in the factory bumper does look awesome, though.

I’m almost positive I’m going to swap the front bumper for a Ranch Hand full replacement bumper before long. We just have SO many deer on the highways here in S. Texas and I have them on my other Super Duty’s. I might need to save up for the bumper replacement, though. Lol! So, is that factory installed winch going to cause me issues with that bumper swap? Would the new bumper provide me the room for a longer cable or is the issue limiting the cable length related to its mounting position in regards to clearance of some OTHER part? What would YOU do if you were planning to install a Ranch Hand or some similar full bumper replacement? Just curious.

How long is the cable that comes on the Ford installed winch, do you know?

Is a comparable Warn winch going to cost me $3k including installation IF I don’t get the factory install and, instead, have it installed along with the Ranch Hand bumper? Or, is the pricing pretty much the same either way?

 

[Sendit6.5]

Thanks for the insight. How long is your cable? I’m going with a Diesel (which has 2 batteries) and the biggest alternator but I’m probably going to replace the bumper with a Ranch Hand full pipe bumper replacement - for total protection against hitting deer. So, maybe going with a different winch later would be smarter or save me money? Any a what the model number is for your winch?

 

[BroncOh]

Heads up that if you do go with factory, the winch uses a non-standard mounting pattern and shorter than standard rope, with no room for extra length.

This means two things:
1. The winch can’t be installed into another location without modifying the receiving location (holes won’t line up).
2. When buying replacement rope, if you don’t want to replace with the exact same, you’ll need to shorten it before installing.

Neither are the end of the world, but may or may not be dealbreakers for you. The install in the factory bumper does look awesome, though.

Can also buy a higher quality, stronger line that is thinner than OEM so you can get more line length.

Synthetic Winch Lines & Winch Ropes

Synthetic Winch Lines and Ropes

www.masterpull.com

 

[Cropgun]

Configuring my new 2022 F350 Tremor and I want to get a good winch but I’m wondering whether the $3k price tag that Ford is charging is fair; or can I purchase it separately and have it installed for a significant savings?

Would you recommend I get a more powerful winch or a different Warn model than the one Ford offers as an option?

Thanks to all that reply!

The 3k is installed price.

Summit racing is selling just the winch kit for like 2100-2300. Then you install yourself.

 

[ccw]

I’m almost positive I’m going to swap the front bumper for a Ranch Hand full replacement bumper before long. We just have SO many deer on the highways here in S. Texas and I have them on my other Super Duty’s. I might need to save up for the bumper replacement, though. Lol! So, is that factory installed winch going to cause me issues with that bumper swap? Would the new bumper provide me the room for a longer cable or is the issue limiting the cable length related to its mounting position in regards to clearance of some OTHER part? What would YOU do if you were planning to install a Ranch Hand or some similar full bumper replacement? Just curious.

How long is the cable that comes on the Ford installed winch, do you know?

Is a comparable Warn winch going to cost me $3k including installation IF I don’t get the factory install and, instead, have it installed along with the Ranch Hand bumper? Or, is the pricing pretty much the same either way?

Thanks for the insight. How long is your cable? I’m going with a Diesel (which has 2 batteries) and the biggest alternator but I’m probably going to replace the bumper with a Ranch Hand full pipe bumper replacement - for total protection against hitting deer. So, maybe going with a different winch later would be smarter or save me money? Any a what the model number is for your winch?

If you’re going to go with a Ranch Hand bumper in the somewhat near future I would absolutely go with a standard winch rather than the Ford one. It will mount cleanly, and you have way more choices and flexibility. The Ford winch is unique in many regards which means you can’t capitalize as much on the standardization of winches.

I haven’t researched prices well enough on after-market winches, but I suspect you’ll be around the same cost purely for the winch if you get a Warn winch of similar specs. Including the cost of the bumper you’ll be notably higher. My guess is $5k+ for bumper, 12,000 pound Warn winch, and install all together.

You could save on some of that if you go with Warn’s entry level VR lineup, but that’s made in China and competes with Harbor Freight. Your call if that will satisfy your needs or not. You could also look at other high quality winch brands to save some money, as Warn is about as expensive as you can get.

The Ford winch comes with 70 feet of synthetic rope. Seems like standard lengths are 80 feet or 100 feet. I believe what’s preventing more rope is truck parts around the winch, but I’m not 100% sure on that. Someone grabbed a picture of it at one point, but I’m not able to find it right now.

As for the Ford winch part number, it’s a Ford part. While the winch is made by Warn, it’s not sold by Warn at all and therefore there is no Warn part number. Warn will not provide support for it, you must go through Ford. It’s based off of a previous generation high performance Warn winch, but not one of their current models. It’s also been customized from that previous generation to Ford’s specifications, though I don’t know in exactly which ways.

Of note the original model was not rated for 12,000 pounds. I believe it capped out at 9,000 pounds, so obviously it was beefed up to get the higher rating.

(I can’t search for it right now, but I did previously look up the exact model it’s based on. Maybe someone can help me out with it, or you can find it through search.)

 

[ccw]

The 3k is installed price.

Summit racing is selling just the winch kit for like 2100-2300. Then you install yourself.

To clarify: the $3k price includes install only if you get it with the truck. Ford Performance also sells the winch standalone for $3k, and that does not include install.

Correct that you can find it standalone for less elsewhere, though.

 

[HMM]

Supposedly it's 75' of winch line. I'm struggling with this option as well. I have a warn zeon 10S and a relocation kit for the controller so I think I could get it mounted in the same location with a little work. It's got a wireless controller (totally wireless, no manual disengagement on the winch). But I'm lazy...lol Might be worth just getting the factory option and not messing with it...

 

[Briski]

If you like the stock front bumper get the Ford/Warn Tremor kit. If you want a different front bumper get something else. It’s really that simple.

 

[Momma’s Trim!]

I talked to Warn rep, this winch is a total redesign to fit the Tremor. Winch bolts are normally installed vertically but these are horizontal with special bolts. Warm does not sell the winch through website, it’s redesigned for the Tremor. They also say if you mount aftermarket bumper on vehicle equipped with Adaptive Cruise Control the sensors might not work and might have to be moved or turned off. The Factory Tremor setup is clean and should do all you would ever need, you have space in truck to carry extra cable/rope/straps if you need extra length.
You can get a Warn with more features for less money but it will not fit into your Tremor bumper.

 

[ccw]

you have space in truck to carry extra cable/rope/straps if you need extra length

+1 to this. The concern with length should not be reach. If you need more reach, buy an extension (I bought a 50’ extension myself).

The concern is the length is non-standard, which means options for replacement rope are more limited unless you shorten the rope yourself after purchase.

Not the end of a world by any stretch, but a downside to the Ford winch.

 

[Sendit6.5]

If you like the stock front bumper get the Ford/Warn Tremor kit. If you want a different front bumper get something else. It’s really that simple.

I talked to Warn rep, this winch is a total redesign to fit the Tremor. Winch bolts are normally installed vertically but these are horizontal with special bolts. Warm does not sell the winch through website, it’s redesigned for the Tremor. They also say if you mount aftermarket bumper on vehicle equipped with Adaptive Cruise Control the sensors might not work and might have to be moved or turned off. The Factory Tremor setup is clean and should do all you would ever need, you have space in truck to carry extra cable/rope/straps if you need extra length.
You can get a Warn with more features for less money but it will not fit into your Tremor bumper.

+1 to this. The concern with length should not be reach. If you need more reach, buy an extension (I bought a 50’ extension myself).

The concern is the length is non-standard, which means options for replacement rope are more limited unless you shorten the rope yourself after purchase.

Not the end of a world by any stretch, but a downside to the Ford winch.

The extension is a great point and one I hadn’t thought of.

Your comments brought up a related issue, though…. I do like how the factory bumper LOOKS but I manage a ranch and live in a very rural, deer ridden area where most of us run full bumper replacements to protect our trucks from regular mishaps from deer on the highway. It’s unfortunate but hitting deer at speed is a regular occurrence where we live; and a deer (or a hog) can cause o LOT of expensive damage to your front end, if you don’t have a full pipe bumper with a welded-on wrap-around grill guard. So, while I love that factory bumper look, my inclination is to have an aftermarket heavy bumper installed almost immediately - to protect my investment.

For this reason I was wondering about having a different Warn winch installed after I receive the truck. IF I DO THAT… would I be better off (especially financially) getting a different winch from Warn AND do I have to worry about my adaptive cruise control or other high tech features? I’d have thought that the top aftermarket bumper companies would allow for all the appropriate sensors to be properly relocated on their bumpers. Is this incorrect?

Is there a aftermarket bumper company that works BEST with a Ford Tremor (in terms of maintaining all these awesome factory features) yet still providing full front end protection from animals, minor front end impacts and 4-wheeling/off-roading adventure impacts?

Ranch Hand is very popular here in S Texas but I don’t know if they have good winch setups or whether they’re optimal for things like trail running in the mountains? Which companies would you recommend I look at?

 

[ccw]

For this reason I was wondering about having a different Warn winch installed after I receive the truck. IF I DO THAT… would I be better off (especially financially) getting a different winch from Warn AND do I have to worry about my adaptive cruise control or other high tech features? I’d have thought that the top aftermarket bumper companies would allow for all the appropriate sensors to be properly relocated on their bumpers. Is this incorrect?

If you go with an aftermarket bumper, definitely get an aftermarket winch - Warn or otherwise.

As for tech, you need to be concerned about the front camera and adaptive cruise. The winch has nothing to do with either of them; it’s all about the bumper design accommodating them.

You’re correct that the good bumper companies will clearly specify how the front camera view is impacted (expect it to be impacted at least a bit by all aftermarket winch bumpers), and provide a relocation bracket for the adaptive cruise sensor.

Is there a aftermarket bumper company that works BEST with a Ford Tremor (in terms of maintaining all these awesome factory features) yet still providing full front end protection from animals, minor front end impacts and 4-wheeling/off-roading adventure impacts?

Ranch Hand is very popular here in S Texas but I don’t know if they have good winch setups or whether they’re optimal for things like trail running in the mountains? Which companies would you recommend I look at?

This gets into the part of the research I didn’t go as deep on because I never made it past the decision of going aftermarket bumper. The factory winch ended up getting locked in and I couldn’t remove it, so that made my decision for me.

I recommend searching around the forum as bumpers have definitely been discussed before, but based on what I’ve seen Ranch Hand and Buckstop bumpers are probably the two most popular for Super Duty trucks, but there are lots of other great brands out there.

Pro-tip for searching: go to your search engine of choice and prefix your search with “site:fordtremor.com” (no quotes). Allows you to use a search engine to search only this site, which can be more effective than the built-in search sometimes. So an example query would be:

site:fordtemor.com winch bumper