Snow chains

By law do you actually need chains with 3peak Ice/Snow tires and 4WD?
This is for Washington state:

Chains and alternatives​

Those traveling into higher elevations should carry chains and have approved traction tires whenever winter weather is possible, especially Nov. 1 through March 31.

Studded tires do NOT satisfy state chain requirements; if chains are required, they'll have to installed on top of studded tires.
 
In Utah, snow tires and 4WD gets you out of the chain requirement.

That said, I've used tire chains a lot more than I ever thought I would in my short 31 years. They are the worst. The tensioners/bungee cords scratch your rims, occasionally a link will wear through and the loose chain will whip around and either ruin your paint and fender, or grab a brake line and rip it off. They suck. It will be a cold day in hell before chains ever go on my Tremor.

I have an old beater Suburban that I use when the situation calls for chains. In 4LO with all four chained up, it is unstoppable.

If you have to use chains, get the ones that are actually real chains. Don't waste your time with the cable junk.
 
Depends on the area but I will say out on the trails the 3 peaks snow tires don’t cut it on the ice with these heavy trucks.
And then there is this:
(2) Vehicles or combinations of vehicles over 10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR).
When traffic control signs marked "chains required" are posted by the department of transportation it will be unlawful for any vehicle or combination of vehicles to enter the controlled area without having mounted on its tires, tire chains as follows: Provided, That highway maintenance vehicles operated by the department of transportation for the purpose of snow removal and its ancillary functions are exempt from the following requirements:
 
Depends on the area but I will say out on the trails the 3 peaks snow tires don’t cut it on the ice with these heavy trucks

I didn't intend to discuss trails just the law if I were to pass through
 
And then there is this:
(2) Vehicles or combinations of vehicles over 10,000 pounds gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR).
When traffic control signs marked "chains required" are posted by the department of transportation it will be unlawful for any vehicle or combination of vehicles to enter the controlled area without having mounted on its tires, tire chains as follows: Provided, That highway maintenance vehicles operated by the department of transportation for the purpose of snow removal and its ancillary functions are exempt from the following requirements:
So the 250 can squeak by?
 
Not sure on the Tremor's specs as to what chains are allowed, but on my previous truck (profile picture) and my TJR I run 7mm square boron chains. They're pricey but here in CO I found them to be the best balance of durability and traction for ice and deep snow conditions, especially when heading up the mountains in the heart of winter to play around on fire roads.

The V-bar style are best on pure icy surfaces, but will wear down much faster and are more damaging to asphalt roads.

https://tirechain.com/35x12-5-18-7mm-square-alloy-tire-chains-with-cams/


edit: Here's info from the site regarding V-bar:
V Bar Tire Chains are V-bar are helpful on hill, ice and hard packed conditions. They are not recommended on pavement since they can damage the surface it the tires begin to spin. V-BAR also called, Ice breaker, ICE BAR and REINFORCED TIRE CHAINS. The V-bar is a piece of hardened angle iron, welded to each link of the cross chain. 15/64 or 9/32 thick depending on actual tire size. Recommended for ice and off road use. Double the wear over tire chains without the V Bar.
 
Properly fitted chains won't be an issue. You also aren't supposed to run them doing 60mph. A lot of people miss on the first and completely ignore the second.
Exactly. No more than 20 MPH in my opinion. If you're wanting to go faster than that, you're either an idiot or the situation doesn't call for chains. Maybe both.
 
Peweg but my Tremor isn't in yet so no experience on the new truck.
 
By law do you actually need chains with 3peak Ice/Snow tires and 4WD?
Yes when chain law is in effect. Rightfully so too, I70 gets bad and theres way too many idiots that don’t know how to drive causing pile ups shutting the highway down for hours (or days). It’s happened twice already this season.
 
Yes when chain law is in effect. Rightfully so too, I70 gets bad and theres way too many idiots that don’t know how to drive causing pile ups shutting the highway down for hours (or days). It’s happened twice already this season.
You got to love the first snows of the season it's always a shit-show around here.
 
Properly fitted chains won't be an issue. You also aren't supposed to run them doing 60mph. A lot of people miss on the first and completely i

I really wish CHP would just walk down the line handing out $600 tickets. Otherwise it will only get worse.
Too many people treat I-70 as just another highway not realizing or caring how quickly the weather can turn for the worst at higher altitudes. I was driving back from Moab last october and we got hit with a flash blizzard near Parachute that turned our 7hr drive into a 13hr one. What's crazy is another vehicle from our group left literally 20min before us and completely missed the storm, made it home sub-7hrs, I couldn't believe it.
 
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