Rear axle weld issue recall ?

[legmar]

Ford recalls over 800,000 SUVs and pickup trucks — Fox Business

Nearly 775,000 Ford Explorer SUVs from the model years 2013-2017 are covered under one recall.

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34,939 2020-2021 model F-350 Super Duty pickups

The Ford F-350 Super Duty vehicles that are equipped with a 6.7-liter engine and single rear wheel axle are being recalled for "a rear axle housing spring seat interface weld issue," according to Ford.

The car manufacturer noted that impacted F-350 Super Duty vehicles "may experience rear driveline disconnection" which could cause the car to vibrate or shake while driving at highway speeds or even shudder when accelerating.
The car manufacturer noted that impacted F-350 Super Duty vehicles "may experience rear driveline disconnection" which could cause the car to vibrate or shake while driving at highway speeds or even shudder when accelerating.

"In the event of a disconnected driveshaft, customers may experience loss of motive power while driving or loss of transmission park function if the parking brake is not applied, increasing the risk of a crash," Ford said.

 

[ccw]

In the event of a disconnected driveshaft, customers may experience loss of motive power while driving or loss of transmission park function if the parking brake is not applied, increasing the risk of a crash

Wait, loss of power while driving does increase risk of a crash and justifies a recall? Yet the fuse for the fuel pump relay potentially melting while under sustained load, resulting in loss of power (don't mind a potential fire) in my 2009 F-150 was only a TSB and I had to pay for the fix.

(As the fuse was in the process of melting I actually lost power multiple times on the interstate while towing. Not fun.)

 

[legmar]

I wonder if this will also affect F-250 Tremors since they have the same axle as the F-350…

 

[STDevil]

Oh man. So I searched the web, and according to what I found, the recall (21S31) affects 34,939 F350s (with the 6.7 and SRW Axle) built between 8/6/20 and 5/15/21. Since I assume Ford built a lot more than 35k F350s of this configuration, this brings up the question of which specific axle is affected.

I assume it'd be the Dana M275 since it's focused on the F350 (which I thought came standard with the M275 if you get the 6.7).

The next question would be what the next level "sort" filter would be. Ratio? Plant? Shift? Fabricator?

Let the speculation begin! If anyone can find any more information I am sure it will be posted here eventually...

Just based on what I read, I am assuming that the issue is that a spring perch could break, but the U-bolts would still hold the axle onto the springs; if that's not the case, and the axle were to detach from the vehicle, that would create a hell of a mess. I am thinking that might result in a totalled vehicle.

Anyway, hopefully someone will come up with some more facts...

 

[DrEvil]

Wait, loss of power while driving does increase risk of a crash and justifies a recall? Yet the fuse for the fuel pump relay potentially melting while under sustained load, resulting in loss of power (don't mind a potential fire) in my 2009 F-150 was only a TSB and I had to pay for the fix.

(As the fuse was in the process of melting I actually lost power multiple times on the interstate while towing. Not fun.)

Just had this happen on my 2014!!!

 

[Sccritterkiller]

Have they even shipped all the trucks in the date range yet? I have 7.3 not a 6.7 with 5/11 build date and it hasn't shipped yet...recalls before they get delivered...Ford quality right there.

 

[AFTRSHK]

I wonder if this will also affect F-250 Tremors since they have the same axle as the F-350…

Yeah, this might help solve this old debate, LOL.

 

[Potato Wilson]

Have they even shipped all the trucks in the date range yet? I have 7.3 not a 6.7 with 5/11 build date and it hasn't shipped yet...recalls before they get delivered...Ford quality right there.

Man I can't believe you're still waiting for your truck! Hopefully it'll arrive before big game seasons!

 

[LGTremor]

Yeah, this might help solve this old debate, LOL.

Right, I always thought that no matter what engine or package you choose the 250 and 350 Tremor had the same rear suspension and rear end. When I read about the recall this AM I was thinking how is my truck not affected being a mid October 2020 build. I guess we'll see if they expand this but I hope not. Only putting on 400 miles since bringing it home I don't need much of a reason to cash this truck in on the current used truck pricing bubble before it pops. Its just that I really like it...

 

[PapaRaptor]

Wow I dodged another bullet ( with the build dates ). I am still waiting on the rear camera recall, not a big deal but has been since last December.

Hopefully they can get them in for repairs or replacement in a timely manor.

 

[stufarmer]

Ok welding experts, how will they determine "At Risk" welds ..? And, arn't these Axles Assemblies supplied by Dana ..?

 

[keiser]

Official press release from Ford - https://s23.q4cdn.com/799033206/files/doc_news/2021/07/Ford-Safety-Recall-July-16-2021.pdf

"Dealers will inspect rear axle to determine if deformation is present. If the axle is deformed, the axle housing will be replaced. If axle is not deformed, the dealer will perform a weld repair on the spring seats."

 

[thevol]

Dealer will perform a weld repair eh....no thanks on that.

 

[Baddestt]

Hopefully this will be updated on the 2022's. What a mess

 

[oops]

So, if we’re affected we should ride it until it breaks, no?

I don’t trust a dealership with a microfiber around my truck let alone a welding torch.

 

[oops]

My best guesses as to why this is only for the Diesel 350 are:

1. Ford is an incompetent bureaucracy.

and/or

2. 250’s, 350’s, gassers, and diesels roll down separate assembly lines at KTP and pull from different parts bins. We’ve seen patterns like this with commodity shortages and other recalls as well.

Any others?

 

[stufarmer]

Official press release from Ford - https://s23.q4cdn.com/799033206/files/doc_news/2021/07/Ford-Safety-Recall-July-16-2021.pdf

"Dealers will inspect rear axle to determine if deformation is present. If the axle is deformed, the axle housing will be replaced. If axle is not deformed, the dealer will perform a weld repair on the spring seats."

I know very little about welding .. I'm questions the Blanket "repair" comment, as in every truck ..? Don't you have to grind out the "old weld" before any new welding can be done.
Am I over-thinking this ..?

 

[MT N8IV]

I don’t trust a dealership with a microfiber around my truck let alone a welding torch.

Hahahahahaha! This wins the Internet for me today! Thank you, I have not laughed that hard in a long time. Not only is that hilarious it is true!

I guess it would be possible that the F-250 Tremors may not be affected due to the "bin" numbers being different during manufacturing. Even though the axels are technically the same, they may have been sourced at a different time so the run could be different. Maybe those of us with the 3/4T escaped hungover Johnny on the welder or hungover Kyle on the robot welder control.

I am just trying to be the optimist here but deep down I am a bit curious.

 

[ccw]

My best guesses as to why this is only for the Diesel 350 are:

1. Ford is an incompetent bureaucracy.

and/or

2. 250’s, 350’s, gassers, and diesels roll down separate assembly lines at KTP and pull from different parts bins. We’ve seen patterns like this with commodity shortages and other recalls as well.

Any others?

Only other thing I can think of, which I’m skeptical of and doubt the NHTSA would be OK with, is the gas doesn’t put out enough torque to aggravate the issue, but the diesel does.

 

[skybopper]

When I was visiting the Kentucky speedway and talking to the grounds keeper, he said that several of the new trucks parked in the speedway lots have “axle” marked on the drivers side window to alert someone that an axle replacement is due on the truck before it gets delivered. I wonder if these trucks are included in the recall numbers since they haven’t been delivered yet, not officially being recalled.