Official Level Lift Thread

[FatDog]

Alright Gentlemen,

I've been to the ends of the internet looking at level lifts, pictures of kits installed and reading, reading and reading!!! There's a lot out there and a ton of opinions on what to do. Even on our Tremor Forum here we have several threads but there isn't one dedicated thread to showcase what each of you guys have done. I thought I would put together a thread for guys that have done a level lift to post up with exactly they did along with good SIDE pictures!!

As mentioned previously, I have been looking at doing a level lift for a while and I finally pulled the trigger!!

Let me begin to say that I did NOT want a "perfectly level" truck. In my opinion, once they get to a level look they actually start to look nose up, which I don't care for. I also tow and didn't want to further mess with the stance when combining a level lift with a trailer. We all know that definitely equals the nose up loo

Ultimately I ended up going with a 1.5" Ready Lift and PMF adjustable track bar. I ended up with the adjustable track bar and I'm glad I did. I was going to install it myself but I have a buddy that manages a shop and he gave me a deal on the install and a wheel alignment, so I just had them do it. After speaking with the mechanic who did the work, he said definitely go with the adjustable track bar even with the 1.5" lift. He said the axle shifted more than 1/2" but it was easily corrected with the adjustable track bar.

Stock height was the following,
Front - 41.75" / 42" Little difficult to get an exact measurement but it's basically 42"
Rear - 45"
Rake - 3"

Readylift 1.5"
Front - 43.5"
Rear - 45"
Rake - 1.5"

Wheels and tires are the following,
Toyo RT 35" / 12.50 / 20"
Wheels are Fuel Octanes, +1 offset

Here's the hardware that I used,

2017-24 Ford F-250/350 HD Direct Replacement Adjustable Trac

www.pmfsuspension.com

1.5" Front Leveling Kit - Ford Super Duty 4WD 2005-2025

Ford Super Duty Leveling Kit - Max Lift: 1.5" Level or near level stance on Super Duty trucks with factory 1.5" rear block. Maximum Tire Dia: 35"***2023-2025 Trucks equipped with the "Onboard Scale" option will require the Auto-Leveling Headlight Bracket.*** PN: 67-23210 - Ford Super Duty...

www.readylift.com

Next up, some before and after pics.

 

[FatDog]

Stock height

 

[FatDog]

After ….:

 

[Alpoba]

Glad you finally did it. I was following your search for answers on 1.5 spacers

Did you end up filing your spacers too as the other gentleman had to do on his 2022?

What are your thoughts on ride quality with these spacers

Also, please add info on your wheels/tires. That should have effect on the overall front /rear measurements that you took. For example 35’ will measure overall front different than would 37’.

 

[Alpoba]

Another question i have that you might not be able to answer. People claim that Carli 2.5/3.5 system raises our Tremors about 1.5 inches given the factory Tremor lift. I wonder if that 1.5 Carli lift is near identical height to what you got with this 1.5 inch spacer. I guess if someone can measure their Carli setup upfront and also confirm of it is around 43.5”.

 

[FatDog]

Glad you finally did it. I was following your search for answers on 1.5 spacers

Did you end up filing your spacers too as the other gentleman had to do on his 2022?

What are your thoughts on ride quality with these spacers

Also, please add info on your wheels/tires. That should have effect on the overall front /rear measurements that you took. For example 35’ will measure overall front different than would 37’.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that, good catch!!

No filing of spacers and my truck is a 2020.

As far as ride quality, I took it for quick drive to check alignment, handling and steering wheel position. Steering wheel had to be adjusted back to center as it was off a little. With regard to ride quality, I really cannot say there is any difference at this point?

With regard to wheels and tires, I will go back and edit my first post to add that in there. I am running the following though.

Toyo RT 35" / 12.50 / 20"
Wheels are Fuel Octanes, +1 offset

 

[donmatteo]

Another question i have that you might not be able to answer. People claim that Carli 2.5/3.5 system raises our Tremors about 1.5 inches given the factory Tremor lift. I wonder if that 1.5 Carli lift is near identical height to what you got with this 1.5 inch spacer. I guess if someone can measure their Carli setup upfront and also confirm of it is around 43.5”.

I got the carl 2.5 the other day with no rear work and the truck is level. 2022 F250

Before

After

 

[Alpoba]

I got the carl 2.5 the other day with no rear work and the truck is level. 2022 F250

Before
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Would you be able to measure your front similar to what Fatdog did? Curious if it’ll end up being about the same

Cant help but notice your running boards. Did you switch factory tremor ones with this mon tremor option? First tremor i see with these boards!

 

[FatDog]

Just updated / edited with better pics.

 

[donmatteo]

Would you be able to measure your front similar to what Fatdog did? Curious if it’ll end up being about the same

Cant help but notice your running boards. Did you switch factory tremor ones with this mon tremor option? First tremor i see with these boards!

Front - 43 1/2
Rear - 44 1/4
Full tank
Stock Wheels and tires

From the ground to the bottom of the fender

I did swap out the tremor boards with the FX4 boards. AMP boards aren't working for the 2022 yet and I wanted to stay married so I had to do something until I can the power boards.

If I had to do it again, I would just buy the brackets and use the tremor board with the FX4 brackets.

 

[FatDog]

Front - 43 1/2
Rear - 44 1/4
Full tank
Stock Wheels and tires

From the ground to the bottom of the fender

I did swap out the tremor boards with the FX4 boards. AMP boards aren't working for the 2022 yet and I wanted to stay married so I had to do something until I can the power boards.

If I had to do it again, I would just buy the brackets and use the tremor board with the FX4 brackets.

With this setup you are sitting with around .75" (3/4") of rake. Potentially it could be a tick more depending on the actual spot you measure from.

The thing that sucks with measuring from the bottom of the fender, is that everyone's eye or view is just a tick different and could easily be 1/4" or a little more different from one person to another.

 

[OTG-Tremor-CG]

I find it interesting that Class 4 and Class 5 trucks with higher GVWR / GCWR have little or negligible "factory rake" compared to Class 2 and Class 3 trucks. Why is that?

 

[donmatteo]

With this setup you are sitting with around .75" (3/4") of rake. Potentially it could be a tick more depending on the actual spot you measure from.

The thing that sucks with measuring from the bottom of the fender, is that everyone's eye or view is just a tick different and could easily be 1/4" or a little more different from one person to another.

I measured from the center of the hub and looked level at the tape/fender. I didnt look from a standing position. I kneeled down.

 

[FatDog]

I measured from the center of the hub and looked level at the tape/fender. I didnt look from a standing position. I kneeled down.

Yeah, I knelt down too and tried to get into the best position possible, but not everyone is going to do that.

 

[HALL250]

Please don’t flame me for asking…I am a old guy, and it’s been a long time since I have bought a new truck.

Why would I need / want a leveling kit? Is this personal preference thing for aesthetics? Is there a functional reason? I would have never thought of, or considered, this before reading about it on this forum.

Thanks for teaching a old fart something.

 

[donmatteo]

Please don’t flame me for asking…I am a old guy, and it’s been a long time since I have bought a new truck.

Why would I need / want a leveling kit? Is this personal preference thing for aesthetics? Is there a functional reason? I would have never thought of, or considered, this before reading about it on this forum.

Thanks for teaching a old fart something.

Leveling is for both looks and function. Looks for people that dont like the massive rake and function for people that gooseneck or 5th wheel so the truck site level.

 

[Tucson Tremor]

Leveling is for both looks and function. Looks for people that dont like the massive rake and function for people that gooseneck or 5th wheel so the truck site level.

I agree with the first part on the looks. Your truck looks great by the way! Not sure about the function part you described though. I can’t imagine it takes very much weight to get these trucks to squat 3/4”. 400-500 lbs? Just guessing there. Past that amount of squat, you are now nose high if you did a level. I think the “function” is leaving it stock so when you are hooked up to a trailer you have around 3” of suspension sag (weight) before you are leveled out or possibly past it and sitting nose high. The other option would be a front level with airbags in the rear to re-level the truck when towing. Nose high when towing will get you a lot of high beam flashes at night. Just my .02.

My answer to you Hall250:
Unless you are bothered by the stock rake, leave it the way it is. A front leveling kit is really no more than an aesthetic/ ride comfort (in the case of the carli kit) modification that some people prefer.

 

[HALL250]

I agree with the first part on the looks. Your truck looks great by the way! Not sure about the function part you described though. I can’t imagine it takes very much weight to get these trucks to squat 3/4”. 400-500 lbs? Just guessing there. Past that amount of squat, you are now nose high if you did a level. I think the “function” is leaving it stock so when you are hooked up to a trailer you have around 3” of suspension sag (weight) before you are leveled out or possibly past it and sitting nose high. The other option would be a front level with airbags in the rear to re-level the truck when towing. Nose high when towing will get you a lot of high beam flashes at night. Just my .02.

My answer to you Hall250:
Unless you are bothered by the stock rake, leave it the way it is. A front leveling kit is really no more than an aesthetic/ ride comfort (in the case of the carli kit) modification that some people prefer.

Thanks guys, I appreciate the education. Believe it or not, there was actually a day when we added rake to our cars.

 

[Buster]

Okay Boys, This is one of my favorite subjects. The rediculous amount of rake that these trucks come with made me insane. I know that it's for a reson but it's just not me. I've had 4"inch, 6"inch, 8lifts and 9 on other trucks. The best decision I've ever made was leveling my 2021 Tremor. I used the Readtylift 2.5 kit and it worked out perfect. Not nose high with about 1/2 - 3/4 of an inch of rake. Had I known about Wickedtrucks Tremor specific kit I would have probably gone in that direction.

 

[Buster]

I got the carl 2.5 the other day with no rear work and the truck is level. 2022 F250

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Bad Ass. I love it. You can't beat that color! I bet it changed your life getting leveled?