Need help with parts for camping fishing rig

[BroncOh]

I'm in the process of putting together an equipment list to build my dream 'go-anywhere' fishing and camping rig. No trailer, no boat, just an all inclusive fun vehicle. (Whenever the Tremor arrives). With everything being delayed, this will probably take me 2 years to put together, which is cool with me. Want to do it right and not double back.

I have a minimum of an idea of the equipment I want, but don't want to cheap out at all, and am not sure which brands are the best, based on the combination of stuff I will be doing:

1: Retractable metal tonneau cover - What is the best one, hands down?

2: Bed rack that can coexist with Item #1 without hacking something up. Bed rack needs to support the following Item #3 and be very strong. I'm guessing a stake pocket rack is the best? RCI bed racks look nice, but no idea if they'll work with a retractable tonneau cover.

3: Roofnest Falcon XL or Tuff Stuff Stealth aluminum roof top tent. (Manufacturers do not recommend putting RTTs on top of the truck cab)

4: Items in the bed will be Rotopax fuel jug, shovel, Weber Q portable grill, 2 small clamshell Lifetime tables, propane lantern (may change over to LED eventually). Ziploc weathershield totes, Yeti cooler. Axe, chainsaw, two recovery traction boards. Clothes will be kept inside the cab.

5: Two small Kayaks with Kayak holders that will bolt onto the top of Item #3 (these are the only two RTT's that look ideal for that). Allowing one to open the RTT without dismounting
the Kayaks. Thinking of the Jonny boat 10 footer.

If you're aware of any other RTT's I may have missed that allow cargo on top, please let me know. The Roofnest is lighter than the Tuff stuff and smaller in height, but the Tuff stuff looks more roomy.

Based on rough guesstimates, I should be easily under the payload limit unless I start eating a ton of ice cream again now that summer is here.

Links:
Roofnest Falcon XL: https://roofnest.com/product/falcon-xl/
Tuff stuff stealth aluminum: https://tuffstuff4x4.com/collection...f®-stealth™-aluminium-side-open-tent-3-person
Jonny boat: https://jonnyboats.com/collections/boats/products/bass-100

 

[BroncOh]

Think I found the bed rack that will work with retractable tonneau cover! No drilling required! https://www.stage3motorsports.com/184200-17-21-f250-f350-6.75ft-bed-putco-venture-tec-rack.html

Since I don't want the RTT to stick out further than behind the tailgate when it's closed, I think that also automatically makes the RTT choice to be the Tuff Stuff Stealth aluminum, since it is shorter in length.

 

[Dissident]

I have a very similar end goal and i was looking up the same rack.

For a cover I am using the peragon, its light weight aluminum, folds down, and it doesn't have a huge cartridge so easily comes off (Minus the side rails). Its also not water proof but would block most of the water with a tnet over it. The only thing you have to do is make sure that the end of the bed is clear if you want to fold it down otherwise it takes up no spaced at the back so you can fit a lot under the cover. https://www.peragon.com/

The biggest thing you need to watch out for is the weight on the rack. It will fuck up your day if that structure comes down. it all depends on how gnarly you are going to get with all the gear on the truck.

Form the site:
Weight Capacity: 1000lbs Statics, 600lbs Dynamic, and 300lbs Off-Road Dynamic

you are at 220 lbs with just the tent. and ~80 per yak solidly over the off road Dynamic but inder the standard.

you could go roof rack for the yaks if you are concerned about this.

 

[BroncOh]

I have a very similar end goal and i was looking up the same rack.

For a cover I am using the peragon, its light weight aluminum, folds down, and it doesn't have a huge cartridge so easily comes off (Minus the side rails). Its also not water proof but would block most of the water with a tnet over it. The only thing you have to do is make sure that the end of the bed is clear if you want to fold it down otherwise it takes up no spaced at the back so you can fit a lot under the cover. https://www.peragon.com/

The biggest thing you need to watch out for is the weight on the rack. It will fuck up your day if that structure comes down. it all depends on how gnarly you are going to get with all the gear on the truck.

Form the site:
Weight Capacity: 1000lbs Statics, 600lbs Dynamic, and 300lbs Off-Road Dynamic

you are at 220 lbs with just the tent. and ~80 per yak solidly over the off road Dynamic but inder the standard.

you could go roof rack for the yaks if you are concerned about this.

I'm also reconsidering not to go with a retractable tonneau now, simply because of the weight and also the amount of space I will lose with the canister. Looking for the best, most secure roll up now. Any ideas? Bonus points if it can be affixed at any point and not have to be at the back of the cab glass. The Peragon wouldn't work for me. I'm looking at the Revolver X4s now, but not sure if it has to go to the back of the cab every time.

I really do not want a cab roof rack at all, I'm aiming to keep the top mounted items 'nested' within the space the truck occupies and aiming to keep the Kayak mounted more aft so little to none of it is within my windshield sight (OCD). Plus I can keep the Kayaks mounted to the RTT and not have to take them off if I want to catch a nap after driving back to base camp.

I can probably shore up the off road dynamic rating with some re-engineering and some gussets from 8020. Not sure how they tested their off road dynamic; I don't drive fast or crazy when off roading, so maybe that's why their rating is half of their normal dynamic rating of 600 lbs?

 

[Vigilance247]

I should have something I can share about this next week.

 

[BroncOh]

I should have something I can share about this next week.

? beta testing?

 

[ccw]

To throw a bit of a wild-card at you, what about something like the Go Fast Camper (there's other options in the same style)? Super durable, could definitely hold the kayaks, yet will provide for a ton more secure storage than the tonneau cover + rack.

GFC Platform Camper - Product Details

gofastcampers.com

 

[BroncOh]

To throw a bit of a wild-card at you, what about something like the Go Fast Camper (there's other options in the same style)? Super durable, could definitely hold the kayaks, yet will provide for a ton more secure storage than the tonneau cover + rack.

GFC Platform Camper - Product Details

gofastcampers.com

Trying to avoid anything that looks like a 'grandpa' topper ?

I like the look of the open rack.

 

[ccw]

Trying to avoid anything that looks like a 'grandpa' topper ?

I like the look of the open rack.

Eh, fair enough.

 

[BroncOh]

Eh, fair enough.

Neat concept though and USA roots! Wish they had some more options.

 

[BroncOh]

Just watched a video review on the Revolver X4 with some seal issues not even 2 years in and now I'm flip flopping back to a retractable.

 

[Nick@ApolloOff-Road]

The RetraxPRO XR is going to be my recommendation for the bed cover as it's a strong, metal retractable cover and can support a rack that can hold the weight of a RTT.

Frontrunner would be my rack choice and we have the pieces to also add a RTT to it. My only concern could be that your RTT is tall enough that the rack and RTT combined would be over the cab so we can ensure that your kayaks would fit as well.

 

[Vigilance247]

? beta testing?

Kinda

 

[BroncOh]

The RetraxPRO XR is going to be my recommendation for the bed cover as it's a strong, metal retractable cover and can support a rack that can hold the weight of a RTT.

Frontrunner would be my rack choice and we have the pieces to also add a RTT to it. My only concern could be that your RTT is tall enough that the rack and RTT combined would be over the cab so we can ensure that your kayaks would fit as well.

The Yakima racks shown with the Retrax XR don't look up to snuff to hold the aluminum RTT I linked above with people in it and maybe a large dog. Do you know of other racks that are more legit than the Yakima?

Edit: saw where you mentioned Frontrunner. Let me take a look and I'll edit this reply again.

Edit 2: Didn't see any Frontrunners that would be tall enough/as tall as the Putco.

 

[Nick@ApolloOff-Road]

The Yakima racks shown with the Retrax XR don't look up to snuff to hold the aluminum RTT I linked above with people in it and maybe a large dog. Do you know of other racks that are more legit than the Yakima?

Edit: saw where you mentioned Frontrunner. Let me take a look and I'll edit this reply again.

Edit 2: Didn't see any Frontrunners that would be tall enough/as tall as the Putco.

This is the height of the FrontRunner rack. Not on a Super Duty, but this is the rack that you would use to throw your RTT on top.

It's not quite as tall as the Putco, but I think it would be plenty high for your RTT to mount on top and then have the kayaks on top of your RTT and still be above the roof line for clearance.

We carry Putco as well though, if that's the brand you're wanting to go with. We've just had good luck with the FrontRunner racks so that's why I recommend them.

 

[BroncOh]

This is the height of the FrontRunner rack. Not on a Super Duty, but this is the rack that you would use to throw your RTT on top.



It's not quite as tall as the Putco, but I think it would be plenty high for your RTT to mount on top and then have the kayaks on top of your RTT and still be above the roof line for clearance.

We carry Putco as well though, if that's the brand you're wanting to go with. We've just had good luck with the FrontRunner racks so that's why I recommend them.

What is the height in inches from the top of the FrontRunner to the top of the Super Duty cab roof?

 

[Nick@ApolloOff-Road]

The legs and rack stick up 10" from the bed rail to the top of the rack. And the back window to roof is 24" leaving you with 14" from the top of the the rack platform to the top of the roof.

 

[BroncOh]

The legs and rack stick up 10" from the bed rail to the top of the rack. And the back window to roof is 24" leaving you with 14" from the top of the the rack platform to the top of the roof.

The Tuff Stuff image shows their RTT being 10-2/3", however their own website contradicts and says it's 13" closed ?

• Closed dimensions L/W/H: 75x55x13 inches (+3" with storage rack)

 

[Nick@ApolloOff-Road]

So 13" for the tent and then 3" for the storage racks puts the racks at 2" over your roof. Depending on the curvature of your kayaks (if any), this should work nicely.

 

[BroncOh]

So 13" for the tent and then 3" for the storage racks puts the racks at 2" over your roof. Depending on the curvature of your kayaks (if any), this should work nicely.

Do you know why their drawing shows it as 10-2/3"? They haven't emailed me back in regard to the discrepancy on their website. Website text seems to imply it's 16" tall with storage rack, but drawing says otherwise.

Lastly, why do you recommend the Front Runner instead of going with the Putco or an RCI metalworks rack?

BTW, thank you! @Nick@ApolloOptics