Carli Eventure or Just get a Raptor R

[JimmyG79]

Have a 21 6.7 that I bought new. Have 75,000 miles on it and now I’m only towing a 36” 9,000 lb. travel trailer twice a year. I love the truck but my daily drive is a lot of terribly maintained dirt roads and I’m getting tired of the rough ride. Now I’m contemplating keeping the truck and putting the Carli Eventure system on it or going the Raptor R route. Would love the power and suspension on the R and like to rip it up on the trails, but would be a real struggle to get my camper to hunt camp to say the least. If the Carli Eventure would give me that plush ride with the ability to switch to some spirited off roading with a simple turn of a dial and still be able to tow on occasion will I be happy with the suspension upgrade? If I didn’t tow on rare occasion it would be a no brainer.

 

[ramv]

I'm sure the Raptor would move the trailer but it's a big trailer for that spec. I can't speak to the E-Venture but I would be hesitant to expect a stock Raptor handle the load well.

Sorry, dumb comment. I agree, I think a Raptor R would be awesome. One of my co-workers has one and an F-350 DRW for towing.

 

[Godzilla/Tremornator]

just air-down to 35psi when you're not towing

try it first anyway?

 

[Optimus🤖]

Man, do not get rid of that Super Duty! You will 100% regret it. Obviously, the absolute dream scenario is to have both the Super Duty and the Raptor R sitting in the driveway, but since you still have to drag that 36-foot camper to hunt camp, the Raptor is going to be a nightmare for towing. A 9,000 lb trailer on soft Raptor rear suspension is going to squat like crazy and handle terribly.

Keep the Super Duty and get the Carli E-Venture kit. It is exactly what you are looking for. You'll get that plush ride for your daily washboard dirt roads, the on-the-fly adjustability when you want to rip it on the trails, and you still have a real heavy-duty truck when it's time to hook up the camper.

If you are craving that Raptor R power, here is the ultimate recipe: keep the truck, get the E-Venture, delete it, and throw a 125hp tune on it. A deleted and tuned 6.7 sitting on Carli suspension will absolutely fly, ride like a dream, and still be a complete tow monster. It's a no-brainer!

 

[HeavyAssault]

You won't get the money back spent on the Carli kit. You "could" get money back on the Raptor down the road (dependent of course).

I love the truck but my daily drive is a lot of terribly maintained dirt roads and I’m getting tired of the rough ride.

I'd think Carli is more spec'd out for moderate/higher speeds off-road over towing anything. You will still get some serious suspension movement with the trailer attached.

Either it's a SuperDuty that can tow and ride reasonably well or a SuperDuty built to run hard off-road with towing a afterthought. Just the nature of the products out there these days.

 

[bigfoot21075]

It is funny to me, I had a 2012 F350 FX4. That thing rode like a Chuck Wagon! The 2026 Tremor rides like a Cadillac in comparison! Air down a bit and try that... The Carli is sweet but that is a LOT of dough.

 

[JimmyG79]

Man, do not get rid of that Super Duty! You will 100% regret it. Obviously, the absolute dream scenario is to have both the Super Duty and the Raptor R sitting in the driveway, but since you still have to drag that 36-foot camper to hunt camp, the Raptor is going to be a nightmare for towing. A 9,000 lb trailer on soft Raptor rear suspension is going to squat like crazy and handle terribly.

Keep the Super Duty and get the Carli E-Venture kit. It is exactly what you are looking for. You'll get that plush ride for your daily washboard dirt roads, the on-the-fly adjustability when you want to rip it on the trails, and you still have a real heavy-duty truck when it's time to hook up the camper.

If you are craving that Raptor R power, here is the ultimate recipe: keep the truck, get the E-Venture, delete it, and throw a 125hp tune on it. A deleted and tuned 6.7 sitting on Carli suspension will absolutely fly, ride like a dream, and still be a complete tow monster. It's a no-brainer!

lol!! I deleted this truck last year, that’s another reason why I love it so much. It’s fast! I also did air down the tires to 40 psi. Helps but still a bucking bronco.

 

[Vecman]

I have the e-venture on my 22 350 and I love it. I can shred the fire roads very nicely and still have the towing capability. Aired down is even better. Washboard roads aren’t a problem. On road the truck is also great. If you want to maintain towing capabilities and have a great offroad ride, Carli it is. And that’s a lot cheaper than buying a new truck you can’t really tow well with. Good luck with your decision.

 

[donmatteo]

Having had 3 raptors, All I can say is that while the raptor is a truck, it's shitty at doing truck things like towing.

If you really want to tow anything of weight, you will need suspension modifications and that ruins it IMHO.

 

[JimmyG79]

You won't get the money back spent on the Carli kit. You "could" get money back on the Raptor down the road (dependent of course).



I'd think Carli is more spec'd out for moderate/higher speeds off-road over towing anything. You will still get some serious suspension movement with the trailer attached.

Either it's a SuperDuty that can tow and ride reasonably well or a SuperDuty built to run hard off-road with towing a afterthought. Just the nature of the products out there these days.

Appreciate the comments guys! Being that a hardly tow anymore I don't care if I have to go back to the weight distribution hitch when I tow. The 95% of driving without towing or having any load in the bed has led me to this fork in the road. My gut is telling me I will regret selling this truck, so I think I'm going to go the Carli route.

 

[TremorHopeful]

v.

 

[xrocket21]

Just do the Raptor R with a WDH, you tow so little and under 10k lbs, it will be fine.

 

[gmbpilot757]

Two completely different trucks with two completely different missions. One cannot be turned into the other. This goes right down to the most basic engineering aspects of each truck. Figure out what you want. You want the SD with a lift? Do it. You want a Raptor? Make the switch. We can’t make up your mind for you. You’re on a SD forum so I’d venture to say most responses are going to go in one direction.

Best of luck

 

[Optimus🤖]

lol!! I deleted this truck last year, that’s another reason why I love it so much. It’s fast! I also did air down the tires to 40 psi. Helps but still a bucking bronco.

Awesome! Now just make sure you don't actually delete it .

 

[DFS]

I really think you need to get the Carli Dominator kit and not look back....

 

[Hunterman]

9000 #s for a half ton to pull is asking a lot. It’s not that it can’t be done but the transmission, brakes, and obviously suspension will be in trouble. I would venture to guess you would not be street legal either with that weight on a 150 (if that matters to you). I did it for a couple years when I bought my first toy hauler and hated every minute of towing. When I started having kids I went to the 3/4 ton truck for the safety aspect and never looked back.

Nowadays I am pretty much in the same boat as you. The SD is my daily driver although I did recently buy a Tesla to whip around town. After 2 years I had 70k miles on the truck and only tow a camping trailer twice a year and a dump trailer a couple times a month. With the recent prices of diesel it made sense for me to get a second car (even if it is a bit gay).

My vote for what it’s worth is keep the SD so you have it when you need it. The raptors are cool “little” trucks but they are not made to tow. I thought the towing capacity was around 7000 #s but I could be way off.

If you have the ability to hook up your trailer to someone’s raptor R and drive it around I would definitely do it. I think you will see the truck cannot handle it very well except going down hill then your brakes and transmission will be screaming at you

 

[Apples]

I'd throw the dough at the appropriate Carli system and enjoy the Super Duty.

Since you're not towing over 10,000 lbs the softer Carly setup + the rear suspension air bags setup they suggest will do the job.

The Raptor R is, as pointed out by several of our collegues here, not a suitable tow rig for anything, really, other than a small, off-road camper.

Go have built a mondo Carli-suspension Super Duty. It really is the more awesome combo of bits and will do much more than a Raptor R's "one trick pony" will do.

Then again it depends on how fast you want to go. IMHO, true speed belongs on a closed course, with the rig in question riding on a trailer to get there.

Cheers!

 

[OmahaBravo]

Have you ever built something or owned something that didnt really make sense given the infrequent use but the moment you needed it... as sure as the sun rises in the east, from that moment forward you would never get rid of it and always have it?

Thats your Super Duty.

I also did air down the tires to 40 psi.

Sir, respectfully. Thats not 'aired down'. I run that on pavement.
You need to be sub-30, at most, if you are going to be on washboard/not pavement for any decent duration.
With stock tires/rims, i run 18-20psi offroad and have yet to have issues.
Once you do that and the ride is still too rough... thats when you need to look at modifying the suspension (this is where i'm at )


If you keep your Super Duty... whatever you decide to run, do NOT keep the stock leaf springs.
Airing down is the best bang for buck. Going to progressives is #2.

 

[Apples]

Have you ever built something or owned something that didnt really make sense given the infrequent use but the moment you needed it... as sure as the sun rises in the east, from that moment forward you would never get rid of it and always have it?

Thats your Super Duty.

This right here is sheer poetry.

 

[JimmyG79]

Have you ever built something or owned something that didnt really make sense given the infrequent use but the moment you needed it... as sure as the sun rises in the east, from that moment forward you would never get rid of it and always have it?

Thats your Super Duty.


Sir, respectfully. Thats not 'aired down'. I run that on pavement.
You need to be sub-30, at most, if you are going to be on washboard/not pavement for any decent duration.
With stock tires/rims, i run 18-20psi offroad and have yet to have issues.
Once you do that and the ride is still too rough... thats when you need to look at modifying the suspension (this is where i'm at )


If you keep your Super Duty... whatever you decide to run, do NOT keep the stock leaf springs.
Airing down is the best bang for buck. Going to progressives is #2.

After the crappy dirt roads I'm at highway speeds and 18-20 psi with a tire that has a max psi of 80 doesn't sound like a great idea.