Adaptive steering 2021 XLT Tremor

[Dthiss]

I recently bought a 2021 XLT Tremor and the steering wheel was slightly to the left. No big deal but I had an appointment today for them to fix it. I saw the tech take the truck for a test drive a couple of times and when I was talking to him after the fix he stated that it was a slight pain as “since it’s a Tremor it had adaptive steering”. He made a correction drove it and tweaked and drove it again. My issue is that when I look at my sticker I find no mention of adaptive steering. Also when I look at the order guide it says “Adaptive Steering – optional on Lariat, King Ranch and Platinum; std on Limited” And it’s not mentioned under the Tremor package. Can someone shed light? Was the tech FOS? I‘m pretty sure I don’t have adaptive steering.

 

[PapaRaptor]

It is not a standard feature on the XLT If you have it its listed as an option on your window sticker. But the alignment is an alignment .

 

[Dthiss]

It is not a standard feature on the XLT If you have it its listed as an option on your window sticker. But the alignment is an alignment .

He didn’t perform an alignment as the truck wasn’t pulling the steering wheel was just off center.

 

[Chris21667]

he is FOS ... it doesn't and if it did you would see it behind the airbag

 

[Chris21667]

He didn’t perform an alignment as the truck wasn’t pulling the steering wheel was just off center.

steering wheel alignment is part of doing a wheel alignment as all the parts are connected together... because of how the old school setup having a mechanical steering box

 

[Dthiss]

steering wheel alignment is part of doing a wheel alignment as all the parts are connected together... because of how the old school setup having a mechanical steering box

He told me that everything was in spec, just needed the wheel corrected. I thought it sounded weird. Thanks for the info guys.

 

[Apparition]

steering wheel alignment is part of doing a wheel alignment as all the parts are connected together... because of how the old school setup having a mechanical steering box

Must be different than my LJ, I can adjust the length of the drag link to correct my steering without messing with the tie rod which determines my alignment.

 

[Chris21667]

Must be different than my LJ, I can adjust the length of the drag link to correct my steering without messing with the tie rod which determines my alignment.

yes it is the say as adjustment of the drag link bar is considered as a alignment after least it my maintenance shop it is ... and also most shops will do the same .... i fucked my steering box up on my jeep that i needed a longer drag link bar for my jeep to have the steering wheel to be straight

 

[Grabber]

FOS

 

[Apparition]

yes it is the say as adjustment of the drag link bar is considered as a alignment after least it my maintenance shop it is ... and also most shops will do the same .... i fucked my steering box up on my jeep that i needed a longer drag link bar for my jeep to have the steering wheel to be straight

Always do the alignment in my garage, the benefit of a solid axle.

 

[Chris21667]

Always do the alignment in my garage, the benefit of a solid axle.

yep!!!!!! but my f150 has a life time alignment from firestone

 

[Apparition]

yep!!!!!! but my f150 has a life time alignment from firestone

And not a solid axle

 

[Chris21667]

And not a solid axle

no its not ... so the lifetime is handy ... but my jeep has one as well but they didn't like how it was lifted ...

 

[thevol]

The 2020s all have electric assist steering, some people incorrectly call it adaptive steering, it does change the feel of the steering compared to old hydraulic only assist as it can adjust the electric assist in different conditions.

 

[PapaRaptor]

He didn’t perform an alignment as the truck wasn’t pulling the steering wheel was just off center.

already been addressed but the centering of the steering wheel is a basic alignment procedure. I would never have a dealership do a front end alignment or even a simple wheel balance. I use a specific alignment shop and that is all they do all day long every day all the time. These trucks have an "Acceptable" range tolerance for the alignment spec. My guy spends the extra 5-10 minutes to try and get it as close to perfect as possible. Many dealerships have lots of cars backed up and need to move on to the next customer. ( Not all Some have very good mechanics that take pride in their work but that is a dying breed).

 

[mbs550]

already been addressed but the centering of the steering wheel is a basic alignment procedure. I would never have a dealership do a front end alignment or even a simple wheel balance. I use a specific alignment shop and that is all they do all day long every day all the time. These trucks have an "Acceptable" range tolerance for the alignment spec. My guy spends the extra 5-10 minutes to try and get it as close to perfect as possible. Many dealerships have lots of cars backed up and need to move on to the next customer. ( Not all Some have very good mechanics that take pride in their work but that is a dying breed).

my steering wheel is slightly off to right, brought to dealer service today for centering, after spending 2 hours there told me everything was within spec and steering wheel was centered. Then I drove away and quickly notice there was nothing changed, the steering wheel was still off to the right. Damn it!!!!! never should’ve trusted they said. I drove straight back home, crawled underneath front axle, turned drag link clamp 1/8 of turn downward, test drove it and now perfectly centered. But my only concern is I don’t know what torque for tightening those three nuts. I just hand tightened them as hard as i could. any thought about the torque?

 

[RedZilla]

my steering wheel is slightly off to right, brought to dealer service today for centering, after spending 2 hours there told me everything was within spec and steering wheel was centered. Then I drove away and quickly notice there was nothing changed, the steering wheel was still off to the right. Damn it!!!!! never should’ve trusted they said. I drove straight back home, crawled underneath front axle, turned drag link clamp 1/8 of turn downward, test drove it and now perfectly centered. But my only concern is I don’t know what torque for tightening those three nuts. I just hand tightened them as hard as i could. any thought about the torque?

Don't know the torque specs but if you tightened them "as hard as" you could, you over torqued them. Over torquing is worse than under as the metal gets stretched - fatigued - and can gall or fracture the metal. This is a thread clamp and doesn't require that much torque to secure the adjustment. I would look up the correct torque and correctly adjust them. I had a potential disaster a few years ago by having my tires replaced at a Sam's club. The tech snapped one of my lug studs reinstalling with an impact wrench (you never do this). When I went to pick up my car he explained that they couldn't replace broken lug studs and that I would have to get it repaired elsewhere. He "reassured" me it was safe to drive that way because he tightened the rest of the nuts extra tight on that wheel. ? I was scared to even drive it home.

Update: found this on Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Clamp bolts are only 41 Lb-Ft in this example.

 

[mbs550]

Don't know the torque specs but if you tightened them "as hard as" you could, you over torqued them. Over torquing is worse than under as the metal gets stretched - fatigued - and can gall or fracture the metal. This is a thread clamp and doesn't require that much torque to secure the adjustment. I would look up the correct torque and correctly adjust them. I had a potential disaster a few years ago by having my tires replaced at a Sam's club. The tech snapped one of my lug studs reinstalling with an impact wrench (you never do this). When I went to pick up my car he explained that they couldn't replace broken lug studs and that I would have to get it repaired elsewhere. He "reassured" me it was safe to drive that way because he tightened the rest of the nuts extra tight on that wheel. ? I was scared to even drive it home.

Update: found this on Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Clamp bolts are only 41 Lb-Ft in this example. View attachment 21574

omg, that sounds scary. i’ll loosen them and tighten at 41 again. thank u very much.

 

[ICT Tremor]

my steering wheel is slightly off to right, brought to dealer service today for centering, after spending 2 hours there told me everything was within spec and steering wheel was centered. Then I drove away and quickly notice there was nothing changed, the steering wheel was still off to the right. Damn it!!!!! never should’ve trusted they said. I drove straight back home, crawled underneath front axle, turned drag link clamp 1/8 of turn downward, test drove it and now perfectly centered. But my only concern is I don’t know what torque for tightening those three nuts. I just hand tightened them as hard as i could. any thought about the torque?

I think the business model for most dealers on warranty repairs (where its not clear the fix is the R&R of a specific component) is to say "could not duplicate" enough times to make you go away. You could have a dash rattle that sounds like someone poured $100 of pennies into your AC/heat ducts and all they would tell you is they couldn't duplicate the rattle. Been there; done that; got the participation ribbon.

 

[mbs550]

Don't know the torque specs but if you tightened them "as hard as" you could, you over torqued them. Over torquing is worse than under as the metal gets stretched - fatigued - and can gall or fracture the metal. This is a thread clamp and doesn't require that much torque to secure the adjustment. I would look up the correct torque and correctly adjust them. I had a potential disaster a few years ago by having my tires replaced at a Sam's club. The tech snapped one of my lug studs reinstalling with an impact wrench (you never do this). When I went to pick up my car he explained that they couldn't replace broken lug studs and that I would have to get it repaired elsewhere. He "reassured" me it was safe to drive that way because he tightened the rest of the nuts extra tight on that wheel. ? I was scared to even drive it home.

Update: found this on Ford Truck Enthusiasts - Clamp bolts are only 41 Lb-Ft in this example. View attachment 21574

update: I borrowed a torque wrench and retorqued them, but suddenly realize that 41 lb-ft is way too much. those bolts are aluminum and should be used only once. Damn it. I left them the way they were for now, and won’t touch it until next adjustment in the future, which should be fine. thoutht?