3000 WATT INVERTER FOR TREMOR

[Iron Man]

I want to see what people are running to have some 110 power for their rigs. My truck is at a shop getting the works done to her. The shop said they can hook me up with an inverter and run heavy duty extension cord from inverter, but run it neatly and make it done right. They would cut the end of the cord off and wire an outside weather box with a GFI outlet set up in the front of my bed. I also want power in my cab and Steve the owner said he'd run a line inside the cab with another outlet or 2. The inverter has 3 open outlets that you just plug a cord into it.
He said he can install the inverter in the bed, next to the ARB on board air compressor he installed under the box of my retractable bed cover. He said he'd get a marine box to protect it. I heard some people are putting them behind the rear seats.
There is the factory inverter under the passenger seat. I was wondering if i can replace it with a 3000 watt inverter and then the outlets in the cab would have enough power over the cheasy power it offers. Then run a line to the bed. Or if that does not work how about running the inverter and just wire the 110 outlet thats on the front dash to the inverter and rig something in the back seat and bed. I don't remember if the back seats offer a 110 outlet since my Beast is at the shop and I can not just go out and check.
I was hoping to get some ideas to decide what I want done. It's at the shop now for a bit, and I keep adding shit to get done. So it is now I need to get figure this out quickly. Not an ideal situation but thats how it is working out.
Thanks in advance my BROTHERS
Donny Details
This is what I was thinking of getting.

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200759672_200759672

 

[Cwayaustx]

I’ll get you some pics tomorrow of my setups on our work trucks. Doing mine the same.

 

[BroncOh]

If the inverter lives in the bed, have the shop swap out the included wires for silicone jacketed, tinned, high strand count copper (very flexible and more corrosion resistant).

 

[TellurideTremor]

I’ll get you some pics tomorrow of my setups on our work trucks. Doing mine the same.

Post em here for all to see!

 

[Iron Man]

If the inverter lives in the bed, have the shop swap out the included wires for silicone jacketed, tinned, high strand count copper (very flexible).

Vey Helpful. Thanks my brother.

 

[BroncOh]

Vey Helpful. Thanks my brother.

 

[Cwayaustx]

I wouldn’t install it in the bed. You’re going to either have moisture issues or heat issues. I haven’t had a chance to look under seat of this lariat but my xlt I post it under rear passenger seat next. My weboost goes on aft bulkhead behind rear driver’s side.

 

[ccw]

There is the factory inverter under the passenger seat. I was wondering if i can replace it with a 3000 watt inverter and then the outlets in the cab would have enough power over the cheasy power it offers.

Be careful with this. The factory wiring is sized for that 400 watt inverter. Going up by over 7 times is going to blow some fuses at best, light a fire at worst if you draw significantly more than 400 watts over the factory wires.

You can put it in the same spot as the factory one, but you would need to upgrade factory wiring accordingly to have it be safe.

 

[Cwayaustx]

Re; cable. At minimum they should be using a flexible, high strand DC power cable. Tinned is definitely better to resist corrosion. My concern with mounted in a marine box is heat. They produce heat with any load on them. I used mine during the great Texas ice age of 21 for five days to power my house. It saved our ass, with propane as a heat source I was able to keep my furnace blower, lights and fridge going. Couldn’t run my well because it’s 220 and the brand I have aren’t stackable. Looking into that next time I buy any.

 

[Cwayaustx]

Be careful with this. The factory wiring is sized for that 400 watt inverter. Going up by over 7 times is going to blow some fuses at best, light a fire at worst if you draw significantly more than 400 watts over the factory wires.

You can put it in the same spot as the factory one, but you would need to upgrade factory wiring accordingly to have it be safe.

100% what he said. You’ll at minimum have to run a new power supply. I’d personally keep them separated.

 

[BroncOh]

Yeah, not ideal to put in the bed unless it's a last resort kinda thing.

 

[Iron Man]

I wouldn’t install it in the bed. You’re going to either have moisture issues or heat issues. I haven’t had a chance to look under seat of this lariat but my xlt I post it under rear passenger seat next. My weboost goes on aft bulkhead behind rear driver’s side.

Be careful with this. The factory wiring is sized for that 400 watt inverter. Going up by over 7 times is going to blow some fuses at best, light a fire at worst if you draw significantly more than 400 watts over the factory wires.

You can put it in the same spot as the factory one, but you would need to upgrade factory wiring accordingly to have it be safe.

Yeah, not ideal to put in the bed unless it's a last resort kinda thing.

Ok so what’s your suggestions. I’m up for whatever is clever. I’m totally on board with keeping it in the cab But I’d like to be able to use the floor of the rear cab. I love folding up my rear seats and loading up the rear cab especially when going to BJs/Costco to get a lot of shit.
Steve didn’t think behind the rear seats would work and I thought this would need to breathe. Now if I’m rushing this I will wait for thee We’d perfect solution but I truly would want it done now if possible.
So please pour on the suggestions because I’m looking to have it done correctly.
Thank You all sincerely for your advice and wisdom on this.

 

[Iron Man]

Ok so what’s your suggestions. I’m up for whatever is clever. I’m totally on board with keeping it in the cab But I’d like to be able to use the floor of the rear cab. I love folding up my rear seats and loading up the rear cab especially when going to BJs/Costco to get a lot of shit.
Steve didn’t think behind the rear seats would work and I thought this would need to breathe. Now if I’m rushing this I will wait for thee We’d perfect solution but I truly would want it done now if possible.
So please pour on the suggestions because I’m looking to have it done correctly.
Thank You all sincerely for your advice and wisdom on this.

I guess mounting it under rear seats may work. Not what I was hoping for

 

[ccw]

Ok so what’s your suggestions. I’m up for whatever is clever. I’m totally on board with keeping it in the cab But I’d like to be able to use the floor of the rear cab. I love folding up my rear seats and loading up the rear cab especially when going to BJs/Costco to get a lot of shit.
Steve didn’t think behind the rear seats would work and I thought this would need to breathe. Now if I’m rushing this I will wait for thee We’d perfect solution but I truly would want it done now if possible.
So please pour on the suggestions because I’m looking to have it done correctly.
Thank You all sincerely for your advice and wisdom on this.

Given all the time and money in the world, my vote would be to replace the factory one including all the wiring. But that’s just a lot of investment since I suspect you would need to take apart a significant amount of the cab for the outlet wires.

As a step down from that, you should be able to:

1. Remove the factory inverter.
2. Place your big inverter in its place.
3. Run new, larger power cables from the battery to your new inverter that support its load.
4. Power the outlets using their existing wiring from the new inverter, but put a circuit breaker on the wires right next to the inverter. This way if you do try and pull more power than is safe by accident, it trips the breaker and you just need to reset it to have your outlet(s) functioning again.
5. Run beefier power wires from the other inverter outlets to wherever you want so you can fully utilize the inverter.

 

[ccw]

Given all the time and money in the world, my vote would be to replace the factory one including all the wiring. But that’s just a lot of investment since I suspect you would need to take apart a significant amount of the cab for the outlet wires.

As a step down from that, you should be able to:

1. Remove the factory inverter.
2. Place your big inverter in its place.
3. Run new, larger power cables from the battery to your new inverter that support its load.
4. Power the outlets using their existing wiring from the new inverter, but put a circuit breaker on the wires right next to the inverter. This way if you do try and pull more power than is safe by accident, it trips the breaker and you just need to reset it to have your outlet(s) functioning again.
5. Run beefier power wires from the other inverter outlets to wherever you want so you can fully utilize the inverter.

Worth noting with this: while you won’t get more power at the factory outlets, you will (presumably) move from a modified sine wave to a pure sine wave inverter and therefore make the outlets more useable.

Lots of devices (e.g. tool battery chargers) don’t like the modified sine wave and they trip the system. People commonly mistake this as the system not having enough capacity, but it’s actually poor power quality.

 

[Iron Man]

Worth noting with this: while you won’t get more power at the factory outlets, you will (presumably) move from a modified sine wave to a pure sine wave inverter and therefore make the outlets more useable.

Lots of devices (e.g. tool battery chargers) don’t like the modified sine wave and they trip the system. People commonly mistake this as the system not having enough capacity, but it’s actually poor power quality.

This sounds awesome. How about you stop by and I’ll pay you for your services. You can make it a vacation. I have t try hat RV Driveway with the 50 amp / 30 amp service for you to chill.
I will show you the Hamptons and show you a great time. I have a bunch of Harleys and show you snd your family a great time. We have the Hamptons and tons of Beaches but we can also take a ferry a chill in beautiful Connecticut we here they have NO HELMET LAWS.
Oh plus you will be remembered for helping the IRONMANs build. You will be more of a legend than you are already.
Shit I’m sold on the IDEA. How does C to hat sound my friend and brother.

 

[Iron Man]

This sounds awesome. How about you stop by and I’ll pay you for your services. You can make it a vacation. I have t try hat RV Driveway with the 50 amp / 30 amp service for you to chill.
I will show you the Hamptons and show you a great time. I have a bunch of Harleys and show you snd your family a great time. We have the Hamptons and tons of Beaches but we can also take a ferry a chill in beautiful Connecticut we here they have NO HELMET LAWS.
Oh plus you will be remembered for helping the IRONMANs build. You will be more of a legend than you are already.
Shit I’m sold on the IDEA. How does C to hat sound my friend and brother.

Stupid word correct

 

[Cwayaustx]

I guess mounting it under rear seats may work. Not what I was hoping for

Let me take some measurements in the morning. I bet it will mount behind seat

 

[ccw]

This sounds awesome. How about you stop by and I’ll pay you for your services. You can make it a vacation. I have t try hat RV Driveway with the 50 amp / 30 amp service for you to chill.
I will show you the Hamptons and show you a great time. I have a bunch of Harleys and show you snd your family a great time. We have the Hamptons and tons of Beaches but we can also take a ferry a chill in beautiful Connecticut we here they have NO HELMET LAWS.
Oh plus you will be remembered for helping the IRONMANs build. You will be more of a legend than you are already.
Shit I’m sold on the IDEA. How does C to hat sound my friend and brother.

Appreciate the offer, but at this point I'm less of an installer and more of a research nerd. I intend to ramp up my install skills on my own truck, but definitely don't feel comfortable working on someone else's.

It sounds like you already have someone doing a bunch of work for you, though, and if they are already comfortable wiring in the inverter I have to imagine they would be comfortable wiring it in the way I described (or similar)!

For reference, here's a post on F150 Forums where someone swapped the factory inverter for a pure sine wave equivalent, but didn't go up in power and as a result was able to reuse all of the factory wiring:

Direct Replacement for Inverter - Ford F150 Forum - Community of Ford Truck Fans

2015 - 2020 Ford F150 - Direct Replacement for Inverter - I know I can install a more powerful inverter with a new lead, but has anyone replaced their stock power inverter with a higher quality pure sine wave inverter of the same or maybe a bit more power? It seems Ford cheaped out a bit with...

www.f150forum.com

It's a great reference because they figured out what all the connectors and pins in the factory connectors are for. They also show a way of wiring it such that you retain the factory connectors and therefore can return to stock pretty easily.

The critical difference for you is the beefier power wires to feed the inverter, and then protecting the outlet wires with a circuit breaker since the big inverter could overload them.

 

[stufarmer]

If the inverter lives in the bed, have the shop swap out the included wires for silicone jacketed, tinned, high strand count copper (very flexible and more corrosion resistant).

Yes. Marine Wiring will work perfect.