2024 F250 vs F350 Tremor

[Billet]

This forum is amazing and the responses are really making things more clear for me, THANK YOU ALL!!!!!

Some additional points I'm considering as I make the decision to purchase a 250 Tremor or a 350 Tremor:

1. The 350 costs $1300 more in a 2025 model
2. The Tremor package actually provides more value in the 250 model as it ADDs these things (that are already present on a base 350):
a.) Upgraded 10 speed transmission
b.) Upgraded leaf springs (like the 350 has)
c.) Upgraded rear end (like the 350 has)
d.) Upgraded Axle? (like the 350 has)

So, to buy a 350, I'm spending $1300 more and derating the value I'm getting from a 250 Tremor package. The 250 Tremor package costs the same amount as the 350 Tremor package.

Given I don't need the extra payload capacities on my door jam sticker (the 250 payloads will be fine for my new 10k lb 5th wheel), I'm now leaning toward getting the 250 Tremor.

I look at it in a more simplistic way. Do I want to pay $1300 to have a higher payload sticker or not.

Personally, If I have the hardware I want the sticker to reflect that. Toys change so your needs today may be different tomorrow. The Tremor package already reduces capacities from a non Tremor equipped truck so checking the 350 box helps lessen that reduction. Payload is also very important to a lot of truck buyers so a F350 could help you with resale.

 

[MrFancypants]

If @Optimus had a F350 he would surely get a discount!

There's a psychological component to 1-ton trucks being superior to 3/4-ton trucks, but the big 3 have long used the same chassis components between versions. It's mainly about skirting regulation while keeping manufacturing costs down. The Tremor makes this more of a head scratcher since it includes the heavy duty axle upgrade whether you buy the F250 or F350. It literally is mechanically the same truck except for the badge. Still, when someone that doesn't understand all this looks at a F250 and F350 side by side, they will assume the F350 is better and more valuable, period. Case in point, how many F350's are in dealer inventory right now vs. F250's?

More simply put, F350 = F250 + 100

 

[ColoFatherOf3]

After seeing this option on the build and price site, I'm wondering if I only get the upgraded axle if I purchase the Diesel engine? I'm not planning on getting the Diesel, I'm planning on getting the 7.3L gasser.

Here is the option I can't seem to get on a 250 Tremor with the 7.3L engine:

Packages​

F-250 High Capacity Axle Upgrade Package​

Available on all F-250® Super Duty® models. Requires: • 6.7L 4 Valve OHV Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine • 6.7L High Output Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine Includes: • 11.6” Axle upgrade • F-250® Greater than 10K GVWR Package • Increase GVWR up to 11,400 lbs. • Increase GCW on Diesel Engine Not available with Pickup Box Delete. NOTE: Salesperson's Portfolio or Trailer Towing Guide should be consulted for specific trailer towing or camper limits and corresponding required equipment, axle ratios and model availability. See Supplemental Reference for vehicle height consideration.

 

[MrFancypants]

^ the high capacity axle package is what makes a regular F250 a F350, and it is included in the Tremor package. When you order a F350 it is included standard.

 

[ColoFatherOf3]

But according to this:

Requires: • 6.7L 4 Valve OHV Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine • 6.7L High Output Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine

It is not available with the 7.3L engine?

 

[MrFancypants]

But according to this:

Requires: • 6.7L 4 Valve OHV Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine • 6.7L High Output Power Stroke® V8 Turbo Diesel B20 Engine

It is not available with the 7.3L engine?

i believe they restricted it on the F250 on the 23+, but the backdoor way to get it is to add the Tremor package.

 

[ColoFatherOf3]

I am planning to purchase the Tremor package. Maybe it is a bug in their build and price website? After I've already selected the Tremor package, this "upgraded axle package" is listed as an option, but it is only orderable if you have the Diesel engine. Something is wrong with either the build/price website, or our understanding of what is included with the Tremor in 2025.

 

[Devil's Advocate]

I am planning to purchase the Tremor package. Maybe it is a bug in their build and price website? After I've already selected the Tremor package, this "upgraded axle package" is listed as an option, but it is only orderable if you have the Diesel engine. Something is wrong with either the build/price website, or our understanding of what is included with the Tremor in 2025.

The build and price website historically plagued with bugs...

DA

 

[MrFancypants]

I checked the order guide and this one is really interesting. It may be yet another change for 2025 to reduce costs (actually it appears to be the same on the 2024). There's definitely a risk that you order the F250 Tremor and get the standard F250 spring pack now, but it's also possible that it will be built as it always has been. I'm not sure if you could ever get the 4.30 rear end without overload springs. I personally wouldn't take the chance and would just order a F350. The reality is there isn't much purpose to a F250 with the increased rear payload and Ford may have finally realized that.

<EDIT> Another theory is Ford changed things a little by tying the >10000 GVWR option to the heavy duty rear axle. Maybe it's a California regulatory thing. It doesn't necessarily mean you won't get the beefier rear springs with any form of Tremor (for ride height), but it's the way to prevent you from ordering a Tremor F250 with the high payload sticker and a 7.3L engine. Again there's some risk in being the guinea pig, though.

 

[Whaler27]

There are 2024s accumulating on the lots now, with good-ish deals to be had. (People are reporting buying at $10,000+ below Monroney sticker). That's better than I did. If I were shopping for one today I'd buy a 2024 Lariat Ultimate, because I'm not a fan of the HUGE Platinum and King Ranch placards on the tailgate, and I don't love the KR/Platy grill, but I do like having leather (which goes away on the 2025 Lariat). The automated steps are nice too. (If you want them, and you order a Tremor, make sure they go back and add the steps, which used to be automatically deleted when the Tremor package was selected, and a surprising number of salesmen don't know this.)

There are some good YouTube videos describing the sluggish sales and the differences between 2024 and 2025 Super Duty trucks. (I saw no differences I liked, and the apples-to-apples price jumped again.)

I bought an F350 because I want the higher GVWR sticker. If something unfortunate happens I don't want to be arguing with lawyers about whether I exceeded the GVRW of the truck. I'm fickle too, so the RV plans I have today may change in 2 or 3 years... By then, new Tremors will cost $150,000, and I don't want to do this again, so I bought the biggest sticker (with a diesel) I could find.

 

[Cux211]

There are 2024s accumulating on the lots now, with good-ish deals to be had. (People are reporting buying at $10,000+ below Monroney sticker). That's better than I did. If I were shopping for one today I'd buy a 2024 Lariat Ultimate, because I'm not a fan of the HUGE Platinum and King Ranch placards on the tailgate, and I don't love the KR/Platy grill, but I do like having leather (which goes away on the 2025 Lariat). The automated steps are nice too. (If you want them, and you order a Tremor, make sure they go back and add the steps, which used to be automatically deleted when the Tremor package was selected, and a surprising number of salesmen don't know this.)

There are some good YouTube videos describing the sluggish sales and the differences between 2024 and 2025 Super Duty trucks. (I saw no differences I liked, and the apples-to-apples price jumped again.)

I bought an F350 because I want the higher GVWR sticker. If something unfortunate happens I don't want to be arguing with lawyers about whether I exceeded the GVRW of the truck. I'm fickle too, so the RV plans I have today may change in 2 or 3 years... By then, new Tremors will cost $150,000, and I don't want to do this again, so I bought the biggest sticker (with a diesel) I could find.

Depends what you’re looking for for me the 25 platinum change with the “regular” platinum getting the black out and paint match bits is perfect, still kinda irritated they stop putting fender flairs on in 23

 

[2020Tremor]

This forum is amazing and the responses are really making things more clear for me, THANK YOU ALL!!!!!

Some additional points I'm considering as I make the decision to purchase a 250 Tremor or a 350 Tremor:

1. The 350 costs $1300 more in a 2025 model
2. The Tremor package actually provides more value in the 250 model as it ADDs these things (that are already present on a base 350):
a.) Upgraded 10 speed transmission
b.) Upgraded leaf springs (like the 350 has)
c.) Upgraded rear end (like the 350 has)
d.) Upgraded Axle? (like the 350 has)

So, to buy a 350, I'm spending $1300 more and derating the value I'm getting from a 250 Tremor package. The 250 Tremor package costs the same amount as the 350 Tremor package.

Given I don't need the extra payload capacities on my door jam sticker (the 250 payloads will be fine for my new 10k lb 5th wheel), I'm now leaning toward getting the 250 Tremor.

Adding a trailer and passengers eats up payload extremely fast. First trip taken with my buddies new F250 CCLB 6.7LHO with the HCTTP (11.6 Sterling axle option) we pushed his payload to the max with just my bumper pull cargo weighing in at 8K (1K tongue weigh) , a small ATV + gear in the box, 4 adulds and a 6 year old in the cab. Had to really mess with loading in the trailer to keep from overloading his truck vs how I would load for my F350. Most 10k 5er pin weights are going to exceed the 1900 ish pounds of combined additiona gear (ATV, fuel, firewood) and trailer tongue load on top of passenger weight we had. It seems mot 5ers pin weights are 25+% for pin weight. Possibly a little less for a loaded toy hauler. Ultimately your call but it reaffirmed going F350 for me with how fast we hit the F250 #s.
Now weather or not you get weighed is a whole different issue, most of the time unlikely pulling a 5er. I haven't been scaled in quite some time but used to have an over zealous DOT officer in my area who liked to weigh anything he pulled over with a trailer; thus us being more vigilant than most on staying within sticker.
As others have said when it comes time to freshen up trucks in my area the F350 has better demand when selling so something to consider. Depending on your area the extra $1300 now could be easily recoverable at resale or even have more favorable deprecation ove the F250 depending on your area market.

 

[BettyWhite]

What is actually different between the 2024 250 and 350 Tremor? I’ve seen that the 250 has the same leaf spring setup as well as same rear axle as the 350. Is the front suspension also the same? How about the brakes? Just a little confused about the differences and appreciate any clarity from the crowd here.
Thanks!

Same truck different sticker

 

[ColoFatherOf3]

Same truck different sticker

This is indeed true when you get the Diesel engine. If you get the gas engine, you do NOT get the upgraded axle.

 

[shermanator2]

This is indeed true when you get the Diesel engine. If you get the gas engine, you do NOT get the upgraded axle.

Are you saying that for MY25 a F-250 gas Tremor gets a smaller rear axle than a F-350 gas Tremor? That would be a new development. If true, that would be another reason to get the F-350 Tremor over the F-250 Tremor. I wonder which axle it is. We will have to wait for pictures I guess.

 

[gmoon]

For what its worth, the F350 has always had a better resale value than the F250. Given the trucks will ride the same because of the identical rear leaf back, I dont see any reason to get the 250 variant, unless you want to save a very minimal amount... In 2022 when we got our truck it was only like $800.00. You also get the higher payload sticker which can be helpful for you or the next owner depending on usage.

 

[ColoFatherOf3]

Are you saying that for MY25 a F-250 gas Tremor gets a smaller rear axle than a F-350 gas Tremor? That would be a new development. If true, that would be another reason to get the F-350 Tremor over the F-250 Tremor. I wonder which axle it is. We will have to wait for pictures I guess.

That is my understand from the build and price web site (you cannot add the upgraded axle to your order unless you select the diesel engine). In addition, I saw the same restriction listed in the spec sheet:

F-250 HIGH CAPACITY AXLE UPGRADE PACKAGE
(535)
Availability:
● Optional on XL, XLT, Lariat, King Ranch and Platinum F-
250
Not available with:
● Pickup Box Delete (66D)
Requires:
● 6.7L Power Stroke® Diesel engine (99T)
● 6.7L High Output Power Stroke® Diesel engine (99M)