2022 Superduties - Serious Quality Control Problems

[Alpoba]

Like many on this forum, i’m now waiting on a 2022 SD which is being or will be produced during this time of manpower and supply shortages. More and more so i hear of serious issues with new owners of Superduties, some borderline sickening, like the gentleman on this forum who’s oil was leaking all over on day 2 after taking his SD home. And now i’m beginning to think, will i end up in a similar situation a few months from now, having some problem creep up soon after delivery, with trips to the dealer and long waiting periods for parts. Certainly not the picture a perspective new owner should be thinking about.

I listened to this live conversation this evening, and i’m thinking everyone waiting on their 22 should listen to it as well.

I really hope that when many of us currently waiting in anticipation won’t very soon end up discussing leaks, system sensor errors, and other odd issues on our brand new superdutys.

 

[Cropgun]

I'm just gonna say it.

We've all seen the threads. Here and other places.

You guys put in orders and then RABIDLY bitch and moan about how long its taking. "I called my dealer today for the 37th time to ask where my truck is in queue."

Its not helping. Pressure to pump out trucks when under staffed and lacking parts will only lead to cutting corners and procurement of sub par parts.

 

[Alpoba]

I'm just gonna say it.

We've all seen the threads. Here and other places.

You guys put in orders and then RABIDLY bitch and moan about how long its taking. "I called my dealer today for the 37th time to ask where my truck is in queue."

Its not helping. Pressure to pump out trucks when under staffed and lacking parts will only lead to cutting corners and procurement of sub par parts.

That is a very good point about bitching that happens here by those waiting for their trucks. I’ve noticed it too. But is this or that forum or dealer inquiry calls really at the root of all the quality control issues at Ford production plants and quality control issues with the 22 superduties?

 

[LeviGarrett]

My 2019 SD was leaking the day I took it home. The Transmission was dropped at the first service. It had two major oil leaks before 30k. These trucks are just poorly assembled IMO. With this truck I left the dealership with a 75k warranty. My 2019 was eventually put back together correctly but it took time.

 

[Apparition]

We are seeing it in everything. Taco Bell can't even assemble a burrito correctly. Mediocrity is the new accepted normal.

 

[fordguy74656]

See my thread also.

QC Failures and POLL

Hey guys, Looking over my truck yesterday apart from the front door alignment issue, found this. Door on side of dash on drivers side was loose. Looks like they pried it open at factory. For what who knows? More pics to follow.......

www.fordtremor.com

 

[Mattlikesbikes]

It is not limited to Ford and the SD, it is everywhere. My mom took delivery of a Tesla Model Y this summer and literally every interior panel was incorrectly installed. All of them. Gaps in places you could fit your whole hand. It then took her 6 weeks to get an appointment to have it all fixed. Essentially the local service center had to reinstall the interior of a brand new $55k car.

This also isn't new. My 2013 Tundra has the uber common upper cam tower leak, which has literally leaked from day one. Not enough to notice at oil changes, but enough to always smell like burning oil. Does Toyota care, nope, they let the same bad gasket install process happen for another 5+ years.

At the end of the day, it is a calculated decision by manufacturer. Have just enough QC to keep the level of complaints and anger to an acceptable level. I promise they know and I promise they don't give a sh*t, your check has cashed.

 

[Backslider]

I'm just gonna say it.

We've all seen the threads. Here and other places.

You guys put in orders and then RABIDLY bitch and moan about how long its taking. "I called my dealer today for the 37th time to ask where my truck is in queue."

Its not helping. Pressure to pump out trucks when under staffed and lacking parts will only lead to cutting corners and procurement of sub par parts.

This is a misnomer. Agree that it's not helpful to call every 3 days to get an update. Disagree that this has anything to do with quality.

Customer complaints are not speeding or slowing the production process. As someone who works in logistics I can tell you that the outside pressure to move quickly always exists, whether individuals are complaining or not.

Ford 100% owns its quality issues and none of that blame can be passed to the customer.

 

[slowninja14]

I have only found 2 issues with my 2022. First is a little(size of a quarter) thinner spot on the carpet on top of the bump under the passenger front seat. The second was that the trim piece on top of the tailgate around the step wasn't seated all of the way, for this I just had to push it down in a few spots until they clicked in. Other than that, I can't find any blemishes at all.

 

[Backslider]

My only quality issue so far is that one of the body-welded mounting bolts for the running boards was not properly tack welded. When I removed the running boards that fastened fell immediately into the body cavity where still it rests. There is no way to get it out.

 

[TheBeerFather]

We are seeing it in everything. Taco Bell can't even assemble a burrito correctly. Mediocrity is the new accepted normal.

Unfortunately this is true. We, as consumers, need to start holding manufacturers and service providers to higher standards. The more we accept things as "it's fine" is just enabling this type of standard.

 

[rawltide]

We are seeing it in everything. Taco Bell can't even assemble a burrito correctly. Mediocrity is the new accepted normal.

My local Chipotle is only open from 4pm-8pm every day due to shortages and the fact that most of their staff is comprised of local high schoolers. I just don't know if the shortage is due to not being able to get food or materials or just because people aren't working.

 

[jpeckinp]

We are seeing it in everything. Taco Bell can't even assemble a burrito correctly. Mediocrity is the new accepted normal.

Holy Crap! The right wing nuts are correct. We are becoming China. It's all Chinese crap now.

 

[Apparition]

My local Chipotle is only open from 4pm-8pm every day due to shortages and the fact that most of their staff is comprised of local high schoolers. I just don't know if the shortage is due to not being able to get food or materials or just because people aren't working.

Tried to go to Buffalo Wild Wings last night. They shut down at 5pm. They won't survive being closed. It's never a lack of patrons. It's a lack of service and quality.

 

[Backslider]

My local Chipotle is only open from 4pm-8pm every day due to shortages and the fact that most of their staff is comprised of local high schoolers. I just don't know if the shortage is due to not being able to get food or materials or just because people aren't working.

Over 2% of the population left the workforce in the last 1.5 years.

The reason unemployment numbers have risen is because they don't count people who aren't actively seeking a job as "unemployed" anymore. So while there is a slight improvement in unemployment, there is a drastic reduction in workforce participation (a number that had been climbing before Covid).

So yeah, there's a labor shortage. Unfortunately they fudge the numbers to make it look like we're recovering.

Labor Force Participation Rate

View data of the percentage of the total U.S. population that is neither employed nor actively seeking work.

fred.stlouisfed.org

 

[Backslider]

Holy Crap! The right wing nuts are correct. We are becoming China. It's all Chinese crap now.

I would argue that the higher levels of manufacturing in China are on par and in some cases more advanced than they are here. This is demonstrable.

The problem is that China also has lax regulation and therefor a lot of low-quality manufacturing is allowed to exist. From the perspective of capability, however, China can hang with the best of them.

 

[Apparition]

My only quality issue so far is that one of the frame-welded mounting bolts for the running boards was not properly tack welded. When I removed the running boards that fastened fell immediately into the body cavity where still it rests. There is no way to get it out.

Magnet?

 

[Backslider]

Magnet?

No - and I have a magnet just like this.

It's such a small hole and the bolt fell into the body panel and down into the lower pinch weld. There is literally no way of getting out without witchcraft or cutting.

Also I said "frame welded" but I meant "body-welded"

I'll fix my original comment.

 

[rawltide]

Tried to go to Buffalo Wild Wings last night. They shut down at 5pm. They won't survive being closed. It's never a lack of patrons. It's a lack of service and quality.

Funny you mention BWW. I was there Saturday night for college football. They had about 15 people sitting at the bar when I got there, however I opted for a table. About 7 or 8 tables were filled out of say 30? I had to wait 30 minutes because they had a grand total of 2 waitresses and 1 bartender.

They closed at 11pm due to not having any kitchen staff who could work later.

 

[jpeckinp]

Let's not forget all the boomers that have said screw it and retired along with the 500k+ that left the work force due to Covid deaths. I know over 700k have died in the US but a lot were in nursing homes and weren't working anyway.