2021 Quad Beams too bright?

[Cire]

While driving home from Arizona to Utah there were a lot of drivers flashing me as if my high beams were on. If I had to put a ratio to it, I would say 60% of all passers flashed me, including semi trucks. I can see a clear difference between high and low beams so I know it's switching on/off. In fact, the high beams are so bright that white road sign reflections are way too bright, especially driving in the dark with no other vehicles on the road.

I'm not sure if I should adjust the beams lower or if there is another issue I need to worry about. I tried lowering my tire pressures to 60F/72R. Has anyone else experienced this?

My truck is a 2021 F250 Lariat 6.7L Tremor.

Thanks,
Eric

 

[Mountain Man]

I get flashed constantly as well. And not the good kind either! ?

 

[Cococounty]

While driving home from Arizona to Utah there were a lot of drivers flashing me as if my high beams were on. If I had to put a ratio to it, I would say 60% of all passers flashed me, including semi trucks. I can see a clear difference between high and low beams so I know it's switching on/off. In fact, the high beams are so bright that white road sign reflections are way too bright, especially driving in the dark with no other vehicles on the road.

I'm not sure if I should adjust the beams lower or if there is another issue I need to worry about. I tried lowering my tire pressures to 60F/72R. Has anyone else experienced this?

My truck is a 2021 F250 Lariat 6.7L Tremor.

Thanks,
Eric

I just flash them back they get it not my fault they drive a Honda Civic ??

 

[Raspy]

Adjust the lights to point down farther. It's not the brightness, it's the aiming that hurts oncoming traffic. And weight in the back aims them higher too.

 

[Cire]

@Mountain Man - I hear you, although I wouldn't want to be flashed by a trucker ?

@Cococounty - At first I thought this was the case until semi trucks started doing it. After a while I started preparing for the flashes and seeing how fast I could respond lol. Then I began feeling sorry for everyone and contemplated on sleeping at a rest stop until morning.

@Raspy - I will likely adjust them today. I figure I'd throw it out there incase there was a brightness feature or another fix that I wasn't aware of within Forscan. Another thing to note, all four quad beams run in low and high beams. I can't recall if my 2019 Raptor did that, but I thought only the bottom lights ran during low beams and top lights during high beams.

 

[Bones]

Get get flashed all the time too. It happens with my other cars with the same style of lights. Audi and corvette. I just give them a high beam back.

 

[Tx-Tremor6.7]

It sounds like several of them are pointed too high from the factory. It is a simple adjustment, but you can also ask your dealer to adjust them under warranty if it bothers you to get flashed. People flash me all the time in my current truck, but it was leveled which brought the front up 2-3” higher than stock. Like others, I normally just flash them back or ignore them altogether.

 

[NolaTremor]

i get flashed constantly, it’s worse if I have my trailer hooked up.

 

[Cire]

Alright guys, here's what I discovered after a little sleuthing. I don't know if this is directly related to what I'm experiencing, but I wanted to get your thoughts. Certain 2018-2019 Super Duty's had a recall due to the Daytime Running Lights (DRL) not reducing its output power when the normal driving lights were switched on. This "resulted in a higher than permitted lighting output...", which sounds exactly like what I'm experiencing, especially since my light horizon was below the trunk line of a typical car and well below the bed line of a truck.

The document is dated Nov. 12, 2019, so I don't suspect this would have carried over to the 2021's, however based on the reduced quality assurance capacities due to the Covid era I suppose anything could happen. Case in point, I had to adjust my tire pressures 30 minutes from the dealership since it felt floaty between 70-80mph. I assumed this was going to happen after reading the FordTremor forums, so I brought my tire gauge prior to driving my truck 700 miles from the dealership. While adjusting my pressures I discovered that all four corners were DRASTICALLY off from each other, which told me my truck was not inspected but at least they washed it.

I'll schedule my local dealership to take a look at it next week and I'll update you guys with my findings.

Compliance Recall 19C10 – Daytime Running Lamp Function – 2018-2019 Ford F-Super Duty | Ford

November 12, 2019 NHTSA CAMPAIGN NUMBER: 19V808000 Daytime Running Lights May Not Dim DRL that cannot dim may reduce the visibility of other drivers, increasing the risk of a crash. NHTSA Campaign Number: 19V808 Manufacturer Ford Motor Company Components EXTERIOR LIGHTING Potential Number of...

ford.oemdtc.com

 

[legmar]

Adjust the lights to point down farther. It's not the brightness, it's the aiming that hurts oncoming traffic. And weight in the back aims them higher too.

I absolutely agree. I had super bright gtr leds on my f-150. I got flashed constantly until I grabbed a screwdriver and aimed them down a bit further. After that not a single person or semi truck ever flashed me again.

 

[Chris21667]

i get flashed and they are adjusted correctly and that not my fault they drive low cars ... anyways everyone drives with there fucking high beams on all the time anyways .... so i just stop caring ... they are factory lights... and are DOT approved

 

[Accuracy International]

I get flashed all the time with my piece of shit headlights in my Gen 1 Raptor. They’re so dim I just think it’s truck height headlights and cars.

I just drove from Phoenix to Telluride yesterday and my wife and I made two statements in regards to the headlights. 1. The auto high beam setting is incredible and works amazingly well. 2. These headlights are a HUGE improvement and I’ll never own a vehicle without LED’s.

Flash away I feel they’re perfect and won’t be making any adjustments. I was blown away how well these headlights are over my current ride. I regularly turn on my 40l light bar in my Raptor in rural areas, don’t think that’s necessary with the quad beams. I fucking love them.

My recommendation is use the auto high beams so they can see the lights adjust.

I only got flashed once on my trip and that’s because I passed in a questionable area because the civic was going sooooo slow.

 

[Raspy]

If people are flashing you, your lights are too high. It's rude to deliberately blind everyone coming the other way and think you're entitled to do it. We all have to share the road. I drive a lot at night and it pisses me off when someone has their lights shining up at oncoming traffic.

 

[thejrod]

My '21 F350 had them adjusted too high from the factory. They were mostly ok with no load, but would point to the sky with my fifth wheel hooked up.
It's a shame that an $80k truck with LEDs doesn't come with auto-leveling headlights. My '02 BMW had them, and it makes more sense for a truck to have them.

 

[ABTremor]

I had to adjust mine down aswell, when I picked it up I got flashed constantly, I put in LED bulbs to replace the stock halogens and adjusted them at that time

 

[ICT Tremor]

I wouldn't be surprised if you halogen guys get flashed simply because your low beams are actually four bulbs all on at the same time, and it clearly shows. Most everyone associates that with old school stuff where high beams were lows plus a supplementary high bulb all on at the same time.

The LED's produce the huge majority of the low beam lumens from the lower light.

 

[Dissident]

Just adjust them down. Most of the headlights are mounted way too high i was only able to get in the correct range by loosening the headlight housings and doing a rough adjustment with the 3 bolts before using the up and down adjustment screw.

properly adjusted headlights will fall 2 inches for every 15 - 20 feet. That gives you at least 400 feet of forward headlight illumination. the minimum recommended is 350 feet. the max is around 600. (for low beams) They should also both be adjusted slightly right so that they do not dazzle vehicles as the get close.

I got flashed my first week, made the proper adjustments and never get flashed. The trucks are so high that you will still have a light death zone as a short car gets close but there is nothing you can do about that.

 

[Tuxedomouse]

My '21 F350 had them adjusted too high from the factory. They were mostly ok with no load, but would point to the sky with my fifth wheel hooked up.
It's a shame that an $80k truck with LEDs doesn't come with auto-leveling headlights. My '02 BMW had them, and it makes more sense for a truck to have them.

Last summer I was looking at Titan HD's - they have an adjustment knob for the beam height right in the dash. Wish more manufacturers thought of that!

 

[Dissident]

Last summer I was looking at Titan HD's - they have an adjustment knob for the beam height right in the dash. Wish more manufacturers thought of that!

My Tundra had this too

 

[Cire]

I ended up adjusting my lights after I reversed leveled the truck. Haven't driven much at night so I don't know if it's still an issue or not. I'm still convinced that the upper running lights are what's causing people to flash. I noticed the 2017-2019 low beams run a single light, whereas the 2020-2021 run both top and bottom (see attachment between low and high beams).

Also note that 2021 still utilizes the crappy plastic adjustment screw and it flexes while turning it.