$1000 Incentive for waiting

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Dating all the way back to APRIL 1st???

So really, it only applies to 2022 model year orders since 2021 cycle had closed out before then.

Those of us getting screwed about with constantly changing delivery estimates, zero proactive communication from Ford or the dealerships, who are going to be the proud owners of vehicles that have been sitting, for months, in storage lots... Well, I guess all we get are fit and finish issues from a stop / surge production cycle, dents and scratches due to the excessive and hurried handling by people who only care about cramming as many units as possible into the space they've been provided... To say nothing of the litany of potential warranty claims arising from drivetrains sitting unstarted for months immediately after being manufactured.

I admit I beginning to get... Grumpy... Over the handling of the situation. I don't mind waiting, I mind that the only reason I have even a clue about what's going on is some enthusiast forum on the internet and not my sales manager - who's acting like this is par for the course.

I'm not buying a truck for fun, I'm buying a truck because I need a new vehicle, and because of this limbo state, I find myself in the position of having to borrow -- from myself -- to put unplanned money into my existing vehicle because I have no idea when, if ever, my next vehicle will arrive.

I own a business whose product is impacted by supply shortages, yet I have found ways to effectively manage the expectations of my clients so that everyone feels respected and relationships are maintained. Ford should be able to do this as well.
 
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I would be pissed too.. might be better to cancel and reorder. Doubtful the dealer will care, the can sell your 2021 as soon as it arrives
I'm OCD so knowing my half done truck is baking in a lot would not sit well with me.



Dating all the way back to APRIL 1st???

So really, it only applies to 2022 model year orders since 2021 cycle had closed out before then.

Those of us getting screwed about with constantly changing delivery estimates, zero proactive communication from Ford or the dealerships, who are going to be the proud owners of vehicles that have been sitting, for months, in storage lots... Well, I guess all we get are fit and finish issues from a stop / surge production cycle, dents and scratches due to the excessive and hurried handling by people who only care about cramming as many units as possible into the space they've been provided... To say nothing of the litany of potential warranty claims arising from drivetrains sitting unstarted for months immediately after being manufactured.

I admit I beginning to get... Grumpy... Over the handling of the situation. I don't mind waiting, I mind that the only reason I have even a clue about what's going on is some enthusiast forum on the internet and not my sales manager - who's acting like this is par for the course.

I'm not buying a truck for fun, I'm buying a truck because I need a new vehicle, and because of this limbo state, I find myself in the position of having to borrow -- from myself -- to put unplanned money into my existing vehicle because I have no idea when, if ever, my next vehicle will arrive.

I own a business whose product is impacted by supply shortages, yet I have found ways to effectively manage the expectations of my clients so that everyone feels respected and relationships are maintained. Ford should be able to do this as well.
 
I would be pissed too.. might be better to cancel and reorder. Doubtful the dealer will care, the can sell your 2021 as soon as it arrives
I'm OCD so knowing my half done truck is baking in a lot would not sit well with me.
I have thought about doing this but how do you know they aren't planning on doing the same for the 22s? Nothing I have read about chip production makes me think supply is going to double in the next year.
 
The main supplier for Ford is back to 88% and will be at 100% in a week from now.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/b...r-says-its-nearly-recovered-blaze/7490027002/
From that article (emphasis added):
While near-normal production at the Renesas Naka plant is good news for the auto business, it won’t solve the industry’s shortage by itself, said Phil Amsrud, senior principal analyst with IHS Markit who tracks automotive semiconductors.

Renesas is the third-largest maker of automotive chips by revenue, and the largest supplier of microcontroller units, which are widely used on automobiles, Amsrud said. But it contracts for a majority of auto chip production from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., which is still working to increase output, Amsrud said. “Naka by itself is not going to be able to fill the entire hole that we have in the supply chain,” he said.

It will take until the third quarter for the auto industry to see the improved output from TSMC and other chip foundries, but it won’t be enough to fill a backlog, he said. Even from October through December, the auto industry still won’t have enough chips, he said. “We should start seeing an improvement, but we won’t be able to ship everything we didn’t fill earlier,” Amsrud said.
So that's definitely good news! And potentially things will stop getting worse with regards to supply in the near future. But doesn't sound like things will improve in the immediate near future.

I'm still planning on my 2022 order being delivered late this calendar year at best. And if it's delivered earlier than that, well then I get to be surprised in a good way. :D
 
The main supplier for Ford is back to 88% and will be at 100% in a week from now.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/b...r-says-its-nearly-recovered-blaze/7490027002/
OK how many trucks are sitting at KY speedway? Production is at least 6 months behind...so 3 weeks before "100% capacity" hits US soil...so where do they start with the Jan 21 orders or the Feb 21 orders, mine had been in since 2/19. Eventually if you apply the durations they will have to start storing the 22s...you may be better off with a late 22MY order.
 
I asked my sales rep about the$1,000 incentive and here was his response - If Ford does it they will be sending them via a private offer to you directly. Does that sound right?
 
I asked my sales rep about the$1,000 incentive and here was his response - If Ford does it they will be sending them via a private offer to you directly. Does that sound right?
I haven't heard back yet from my salesman. Would make sense, though, to do it as essentially a PCO.
 
I just got off the phone with Ford Marketing and she couldn't find any info on this incentive. What she did find lead her to believe it did not apply to the Super Duty trucks. I was told to call my dealer which I already did and they didnt have any info either so who knows at this point.
 
The main supplier for Ford is back to 88% and will be at 100% in a week from now.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/b...r-says-its-nearly-recovered-blaze/7490027002/

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Renesas is not the main supplier for Ford. Renesas is a foundry that is a major supplier for 9 of ~100 of Ford’s part suppliers.

Ford's suppliers (part makers) order microchips for their parts from foundries like Renesas. It takes Renesas 3+ months to grow silicon plates, which then are patterned to order for Ford's suppliers. Then those raw chips get on a boat from Japan to various places (mostly China), where they get on trucks & trains and go to Ford's suppliers to be assembled into parts for vehicles. Then those parts are hauled back to a port, where they're put on a ship that takes about a month to get to a US port. Then they wait at the port for a truck to move them to a train yard where they wait for a train to bring them to the midwest where they wait for a truck to bring them to KTP to but put in a truck that then waits for a truck or a train to bring it to a dealer.

And again, Renesas, and this particular plant, is not the only requisite source for the several thousand microchips in these trucks. Which is why the article linked here says:

[Renesas] contracts for a majority of auto chip production from Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co., which is still working to increase output, Amsrud said. “[Renesas Naka plant] by itself is not going to be able to fill the entire hole that we have in the supply chain,” he said.
It will take until the third quarter for the auto industry to see the improved output from TSMC and other chip foundries, but it won’t be enough to fill a backlog, he said. Even from October through December, the auto industry still won’t have enough chips, he said. “We should start seeing an improvement, but we won’t be able to ship everything we didn’t fill earlier,” Amsrud said.

I know you don't want to hear this so this reply is not for you but for those who may be interested in being more informed.
 
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As far as I am concerned they can keep there $1000 and pay for my extended warranty since it going to take six months to cobble parts together to build my truck. I have a feeling quality is going suffer and or shitty parts from rushed production. Who knows how many critters will be living in my truck by the time they get chips...They say the worse thing for a vehicle is to let it sit.
 
As far as I am concerned they can keep there $1000 and pay for my extended warranty since it going to take six months to cobble parts together to build my truck. I have a feeling quality is going suffer and or shitty parts from rushed production. Who knows how many critters will be living in my truck by the time they get chips...They say the worse thing for a vehicle is to let it sit.

I think that stockpiled trucks will probably be OK. Or at least as OK as new Ford's can be (they're rarely perfect out of KTP.) A lot of lower volume vehicles sit for 6+ months between production and purchase. And European brands often take that long to get into U.S. buyers brands.

My biggest concern for 2022 would be that they'll use the new model year as an opportunity to cut out parts and features to save on assemblies that are in shorter supply or that are more difficult to retrofit on a second pass down the line — like Dodge has admitted they'll be doing. But you'll have the opportunity to back out if that starts happening.
 
Dating all the way back to APRIL 1st???

So really, it only applies to 2022 model year orders since 2021 cycle had closed out before then.

Those of us getting screwed about with constantly changing delivery estimates, zero proactive communication from Ford or the dealerships, who are going to be the proud owners of vehicles that have been sitting, for months, in storage lots... Well, I guess all we get are fit and finish issues from a stop / surge production cycle, dents and scratches due to the excessive and hurried handling by people who only care about cramming as many units as possible into the space they've been provided... To say nothing of the litany of potential warranty claims arising from drivetrains sitting unstarted for months immediately after being manufactured.

I admit I beginning to get... Grumpy... Over the handling of the situation. I don't mind waiting, I mind that the only reason I have even a clue about what's going on is some enthusiast forum on the internet and not my sales manager - who's acting like this is par for the course.

I'm not buying a truck for fun, I'm buying a truck because I need a new vehicle, and because of this limbo state, I find myself in the position of having to borrow -- from myself -- to put unplanned money into my existing vehicle because I have no idea when, if ever, my next vehicle will arrive.

I own a business whose product is impacted by supply shortages, yet I have found ways to effectively manage the expectations of my clients so that everyone feels respected and relationships are maintained. Ford should be able to do this as well.
Dude I could not agree more. That’s been my gripe this entire time (ordered on 2/22).

The communication flow (or lack thereof) from Ford to Dealers to Customers regarding the entire situation is pathetic at best. It’d be one thing if we were buying a generic commodity product, but we are paying top dollar for a top of the line vehicle.

Then on top of that my salesman is clueless or incompetent, and likely both. Told me I didn’t have a VIN nearly 6 weeks post order confirmation. I called ford marketing the same day he told me I still didnt have one and they gave me the VIN and scheduled build date. So the guy either lied to me or has no clue how to even check the system, both of which are unacceptable IMO.

Hence, I finally said fuck it and am going with something on a lot. I’m over this crap and like you, need a truck now as I had sold mine foolishly trusting mine would be fully built when they said, not mostly built and then shipped off to rot for months.
 
Dude I could not agree more. That’s been my gripe this entire time (ordered on 2/22).

The communication flow (or lack thereof) from Ford to Dealers to Customers regarding the entire situation is pathetic at best. It’d be one thing if we were buying a generic commodity product, but we are paying top dollar for a top of the line vehicle.

Then on top of that my salesman is clueless or incompetent, and likely both. Told me I didn’t have a VIN nearly 6 weeks post order confirmation. I called ford marketing the same day he told me I still didnt have one and they gave me the VIN and scheduled build date. So the guy either lied to me or has no clue how to even check the system, both of which are unacceptable IMO.

Hence, I finally said fuck it and am going with something on a lot. I’m over this crap and like you, need a truck now as I had sold mine foolishly trusting mine would be fully built when they said, not mostly built and then shipped off to rot for months.

I feel like Griot's Garage is doing a better job keeping me informed about the $10 tire dressing I ordered in March. ?

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I wouldn't touch one of those trucks if they have sat for more than 2 months. Its one thing for a truck to sit on a dealers lot for 6 months. At a dealer the truck will get cleaned and started (moved around) etc... Sitting in some yard somewhere getting bird shit or god knows on the paint and letting it bake for a few months is not good.



Dude I could not agree more. That’s been my gripe this entire time (ordered on 2/22).

The communication flow (or lack thereof) from Ford to Dealers to Customers regarding the entire situation is pathetic at best. It’d be one thing if we were buying a generic commodity product, but we are paying top dollar for a top of the line vehicle.

Then on top of that my salesman is clueless or incompetent, and likely both. Told me I didn’t have a VIN nearly 6 weeks post order confirmation. I called ford marketing the same day he told me I still didnt have one and they gave me the VIN and scheduled build date. So the guy either lied to me or has no clue how to even check the system, both of which are unacceptable IMO.

Hence, I finally said fuck it and am going with something on a lot. I’m over this crap and like you, need a truck now as I had sold mine foolishly trusting mine would be fully built when they said, not mostly built and then shipped off to rot for months.
 
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